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Serious Singapore doing all the wrong things

Cottonmouth

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Singapore is still thinking it is doing all the right things and there will still be a prosperous Singapore to celebrate SG100.

The writings on the wall are saying everything is failing but some jokers are claiming everything is number 1, we are the best. Has anyone really looked at the things we claim to be the best and know what they are, best in what, best in the wrong things?

Look at education, just a few days ago the ST gloated that Singapore is in the top four ranks for universities by Times Higher Education. Superficially it looked like a big achievement, like the headline 99% passed GCE with at least one pass.

What is this fourth ranking about? It is about how many foreign academic staff and how many foreign students in the universities. These are things that can be bought by money. Just keep throwing tax payers money to these foreigners, the more we throw to them, the higher will be the ranking. We can even be number 1, just like throwing money to buy table tennis players and the silly dream of winning the World Cup by buying foreign talents.

And almost daily we have heard gloating about how good our education system is, how great our universities are, only to find that employers did not want their graduates and prefer graduates from third world countries, from dilapidated schools that have poorly qualified and poorly trained teachers that could not boast of having to paying thousands of dollars to get a place in kindergarten or the university.

And the sickest thing of all, everyday harping about training our retrenched workers, many with good degrees and experience and are displaced by third world half baked degrees or degrees from degree mills.

The big question, why are these third world country products so super and no need further training, but the best workers from a first world country, spending more than 20 years in formal education to get a degree, supposedly the finest if not the most expensive, and all inept, misfit, mismatch and unworthy to be employed, and need more training, life time training?

And third world products are perfect matches and no need any training? Heard of anyone demanding or recommending training for third world products?

Are we doing all the right things or doing all the wrong things but pretending that we are doing all the right things? Stop this silly shit about retraining and retraining when lousy half baked third world pariah education graduates, many not even graduates but fakes, could be happily employed here without the need for retraining.

Stupidity has no cure. Just listen and follow blindly.

FUCK PAP.
 

Leongsam

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Singapore is still thinking it is doing all the right things and there will still be a prosperous Singapore to celebrate SG100.

The writings on the wall are saying everything is failing but some jokers are claiming everything is number 1, we are the best. Has anyone really looked at the things we claim to be the best and know what they are, best in what, best in the wrong things?

Education means nothing nowadays. The richest people in the world are never the most highly educated.
 

zhihau

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Education means nothing nowadays. The richest people in the world are never the most highly educated.

It's a mentality issue. The richest could bare the unbearable, be stable in a sea of chaos, sees opportunities in risky situations. Most important of all, the grit and hunger for success. No education system prepares you for that.
 

Leongsam

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It's a mentality issue. The richest could bare the unbearable, be stable in a sea of chaos, sees opportunities in risky situations. Most important of all, the grit and hunger for success. No education system prepares you for that.

Education, especially tertiary eduction, has lost all meaning and value because it is now available to the masses.

When I got my Hons degree in the good old days the content of my course was as useless as the crap that they put in the syllabus today.

However what it did mean was that I was officially certified by the system as having above average grey matter. That was it... nothing more... nothing less.

It told potential employees that I was not a moron and there was a good chance I would be able to do the job I was hired to do.

Nowadays even morons have degrees. Employees therefore have to look beyond certificates in order to find what they want.
 

frenchbriefs

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Education means nothing nowadays. The richest people in the world are never the most highly educated.

thats a urban myth actually,many of the billionaires on forbes list are highly educated,in fact majority of them up to two thirds possess at least a bachelor's degree with many going further as much as 22 percent possessing a masters and 9.5 percent holding PHDs.....contrary to popular belief......the richest people in the world are far more highly educated than the average population.however in singapore scholars are redundant and useless.
 
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zhihau

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the richest people in the world are far more highly educated than the average population.

Looking at the top three in the Forbes list, Bill Gates a Harvard drop out (honorary doctorates, no count); Amancio Ortega worked his entire life since 14; Warren Buffet has a Master degree... hmm...
 

ckmpd

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Looking at the top three in the Forbes list, Bill Gates a Harvard drop out (honorary doctorates, no count); Amancio Ortega worked his entire life since 14; Warren Buffet has a Master degree... hmm...

all of us have different gifts, different talents and different abilities.

a good scholar may not be a good businessman.
a good athlete may not be a good academic
a good CEO is not necessary may not be a good scholar
a pretty girl may not be a good wife

so no need to compare with others. just be yourself and do what you are good at.
 

Pinkieslut

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Singaporeans educated? Oh please. If they are, the current government would have been booted out by their many ass screwing policies.
 

zhihau

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Singaporeans educated? Oh please. If they are, the current government would have been booted out by their many ass screwing policies.

Clearly you haven't subscribed to Gardner's Multiple Intelligence... Sinkies are exam smart, thanks to the Ten Year Series :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

johnny333

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thats a urban myth actually,many of the billionaires on forbes list are highly educated,in fact majority of them up to two thirds possess at least a bachelor's degree with many going further as much as 22 percent possessing a masters and 9.5 percent holding PHDs.....contrary to popular belief......the richest people in the world are far more highly educated than the average population.however in singapore scholars are redundant and useless.

You don't really need a degree to be a successful millionaire & billionaire. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, .... were uni drop outs :smile:

Even Warren Buffet started his investment career at 11 years old by watching what investors did. He did attend Wharton Business school but complained that he already knew what they were teaching & he switched to the University of Nebraska.

I think people don't understand what the purpose of a university. It is where you pick up the basics AND it gives you the opportunity to "network" with people who may be important. I had a Japanese prof who told me that most Japanese students who attended US colleges already had the knowledge because of the rigorous Japanese school system and the reason that they were in the US was to NETWORK.

Just look at the most highly paid politicians in the world. Do you really think they got their positions because of their academic credentials :biggrin:
 

johnny333

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all of us have different gifts, different talents and different abilities.

a good scholar may not be a good businessman.
a good athlete may not be a good academic
a good CEO is not necessary may not be a good scholar
a pretty girl may not be a good wife

so no need to compare with others. just be yourself and do what you are good at.


How about "Those who can't do teach"
 

frenchbriefs

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You don't really need a degree to be a successful millionaire & billionaire. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, .... were uni drop outs :smile:

Even Warren Buffet started his investment career at 11 years old by watching what investors did. He did attend Wharton Business school but complained that he already knew what they were teaching & he switched to the University of Nebraska.

I think people don't understand what the purpose of a university. It is where you pick up the basics AND it gives you the opportunity to "network" with people who may be important. I had a Japanese prof who told me that most Japanese students who attended US colleges already had the knowledge because of the rigorous Japanese school system and the reason that they were in the US was to NETWORK.

Just look at the most highly paid politicians in the world. Do you really think they got their positions because of their academic credentials :biggrin:

im not saying they need a degree,im just saying billionaires in general are extremely intelligent and most are academically gifted intellectuals before they even made their fortunes contrary to public perception that they are just "street smart" and not well educated....in fact most of these billionaires attended ivy league schools not ur ordinary run of the mill schools.

bill gates didnt just drop out from any uni or high school,he dropped out from harvard,something which 99.8 percent of us could never do in our lives not even jack fucking ma.u have to be smart enough first to get in before u can drop out.although its not that uncommon to drop out of harvard,theres lots of stories of people dropping out of ivy league schools to pursue a rock music career or a business they started.....fun fact i just discovered matt damon dropped out from harvard lol.
 

scroobal

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You can't build a bridge, a house, a road network, a sanitation system, develop medication, or even build a simple clock without education. We need education because we need to make the World a better place. The internet serves the world because many smart people went on to advance their education and became scientists.

Then we have entrepreneurs and businesspeople. There are small timers and we also have movers and shakers. For this you do not education. Being astute, smart and the ability to take risk with great determination and resolve to succeed.

Bill Gates when he ran Microsoft had the toughest tests for his recruitment and they had to be qualified and came from the best schools. Same with Google nowadays.

The world needs both kinds. And you need to be smart to figure out which is which.
 

mojito

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There is no need to worry. As long as we have a natural aristocracy, Singapore will survive and thrive. So far so good I say. If Singapore does not survive, well at least we will. :smile:
 

frenchbriefs

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im sure Singapore will survive,theres nothing wrong with Singapore,it is the golden mecca,the ultimate metropolis,the only problem is theres no room in Singapore for sinkies.
 
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