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HonkieSingie

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hahhahah. don't get so worked up just because everyone here proved you are an idiot. and stupid. someone just post Deng xiao Ping is also a Hakka.hahahha anyway morality is subjective. alot of people thinks LKY and DXP are demi gods and benevolent. as for you, nobody bothers what you think, so STFU as you can do nothing to me. ABSOLUTELY nothing. period . Just goes to show your impotency as I did not shut up at all. so what can you do? nothing at all. please continue ranting like a cry baby. hahhahahhaha.

Lee Kuan Yew is a confirmed Hakka because he said he was. As for Deng Xiaoping, he never claimed he was Hakka and even his daughter have no knowledge of herself being Hakka. She only speculated that she's a a descendant of Hakka but even if they did both have Hakka ancestry is clearly not significant and very little. Their ancestors assimilated with the Sichuanese since 1671. Deng Xiaoping himself identified Sichuanese and spoke Mandarin and Sichuanese unlike the Hakka community in Sichuan who spoke Hakka and identified as Hakka. Never in his entire life did him and his family mention himself being a Hakka, if anything he is properly 98% Sichuanese and only 2% Hakka.


Anyway they are only leaders. They don't hold a candle to George Washington, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Timurlane, Qialong emperor, Stalin. Hitler and thousand others ect
They are far more impressive than any Hakka and Chinese leader.
 
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Lee Kuan Yew is a confirmed Hakka because he said he was. As for Deng Xiaoping, he never claimed he was Hakka and even his daughter have no knowledge of herself being Hakka. She only speculated that she's a a descendant of Hakka but even if they did both have Hakka ancestry is clearly not significant and very little. Their ancestors assimilated with the Sichuanese since 1671. Deng Xiaoping himself identified Sichuanese and spoke Mandarin and Sichuanese unlike the Hakka community in Sichuan who spoke Hakka and identified as Hakka. Never in his entire life did him and his family mention himself being a Hakka, if anything he is properly 98% Sichuanese and only 2% Hakka.


Anyway they are only leaders. They don't hold a candle to George Washington, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Timurlane, Qialong emperor, Stalin. Hitler and thousand others ect
They are far more impressive than any Hakka and Chinese leader.

+1

tt idiot thinks we are anti hakka...heck my wife is hakka and i speak it fluently...we are just stating facts. i dun like stereotyping anyway - race/dialect - maybe religion is valid.
 

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Lee Kuan Yew is a confirmed Hakka because he said he was. As for Deng Xiaoping, he never claimed he was Hakka and even his daughter have no knowledge of herself being Hakka. She only speculated that she's a a descendant of Hakka but even if they did both have Hakka ancestry is clearly not significant and very little. Their ancestors assimilated with the Sichuanese since 1671. Deng Xiaoping himself identified Sichuanese and spoke Mandarin and Sichuanese unlike the Hakka community in Sichuan who spoke Hakka and identified as Hakka. Never in his entire life did him and his family mention himself being a Hakka, if anything he is properly 98% Sichuanese and only 2% Hakka.


Anyway they are only leaders. They don't hold a candle to George Washington, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Timurlane, Qialong emperor, Stalin. Hitler and thousand others ect
They are far more impressive than any Hakka and Chinese leader.

Chinese dog you contridicted yourself here.
 

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Turks = Asian-Caucasian mix SUPER RACE

Even they ruled 1/2 of the world for 2000 years. I mean Turks have so many different Turkic ethnicities but how come their Central Asian population of only 50 million could conquer so many different parts of world. Chinks and Shitskin of 1.2 billion cannot even advance further than their modern territories historically.

They ruled Middle east, South Asia, Caucasus, East Europe, Central Europe, Northeast Asia

[video=youtube;LgCreytAUEI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgCreytAUEI[/video]

you fucking retarded Chinese dog. turks are a large heterogeneous group that consists of many ethnic subgroups. That's like saying the germanic ppl which includes english ppl since english is a germanic language instead of saying germany which would then be solely one nation if germanic was used you can include english, dutch, austrian into the mix which is what you're doing here with turkish.
 

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So? Central Asia Turks also shared many borders with many countries but how come they aren't nowhere as conquered as much Chinese and Indian were. The Indians are the most conquered people in history despite sharing borders with weaklings like Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal. Burma. They are all weak ass countries

Japan is the most advance nation in the world. Is a G7 economy and have won the most scientific nobel prize in Asia.

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fuck off nigger. You know what the USSR is? You know the countries that all end in stan? These are mostly turkic nations and they got conquered by russians. who says they weren't conquered?
 

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I don't think we should trust wikipedia because the list is not complete. Many people of Teochew origin are not listed either.

Shanghainese is the richest city in China yet look at their list of people which is puny, clearly nobody bother to edit their list of people. With all the famous people I know that come from Shanghai the list should at least be filled with more than 10 pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghainese_people

Teochew on average are wealthier than Hokkien, Cantonese, Hakka
Cantonese have more richer cities and privileged culturally, media, entertainment
Hakka have more political leaders
Hokkien have more billionaire


Tell me why none of these inferior chinks were able to achieve what Europe did; be it Teochew, Hakka, Cantonese, Hokkien, none of them had ever been able to conquer the world.

History has proven Chinks are only good at killing themselves this is why there was the Hokkien-Hakka clan war and Cantonese-Hakka clan war, aswell as the ROC and PRC civil war and even today Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore fighting among themselves. They failed creating a large empire. Just like Indians. Many of these so called shitskin tend compare with other Indians like Punjabi, Tamil, Gujarati, Malayalam ect claiming they have better historical figures than other. This explains why chinks and shitskins were slaves in most of history.


Take a look at this Chinks and Shitskin. Is the unity of the European race who created the largest empires, most invention, most nobel prize.

This is the European empires who conquered 7/8 of the world.





If a mere 1-2 million Mongolian tribes were able to conquer 1/4 of the world why haven't Chinks or Shit skins with their 300-500 million to 1 billion do the same, hell they can't even expand more than 1/16 of it's fraction outside of modern China. Do you why they were able to pull this off because they had united all the Mongolic tribes and this what make them strong. Chinks and Shitskins were never able to unite that's why they are victims.


Good job my fellow Chinese dog. We chinks are the most inferior!
 

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Lee Kuan Yew is a confirmed Hakka because he said he was. As for Deng Xiaoping, he never claimed he was Hakka and even his daughter have no knowledge of herself being Hakka. She only speculated that she's a a descendant of Hakka but even if they did both have Hakka ancestry is clearly not significant and very little. Their ancestors assimilated with the Sichuanese since 1671. Deng Xiaoping himself identified Sichuanese and spoke Mandarin and Sichuanese unlike the Hakka community in Sichuan who spoke Hakka and identified as Hakka. Never in his entire life did him and his family mention himself being a Hakka, if anything he is properly 98% Sichuanese and only 2% Hakka.


Anyway they are only leaders. They don't hold a candle to George Washington, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, Timurlane, Qialong emperor, Stalin. Hitler and thousand others ect
They are far more impressive than any Hakka and Chinese leader.

george washington, stalin or hitler or even alexander are just plain inferior when you compared to what Sun yat sen or deng have done to change the course of a quarter of all humanity destiny forever(China population at that time was 25% of the world's pop). Never underestimate what the Hakkas can do. in fact at one time half of the China main standing committee or politburo were Hakkas. In fact the Mao's Long March would not have succeeded if not for the Hakkas who gave him refuge along a large part of the trail.
to understand the influnce go and read the book:The Secret History of the Hakkas: The Chinese Revolution as a Hakka Enterprise.
here is pasrt of the reference:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/654189?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Its in the genes . Not the language. so even if Deng speak sichuanese , the genes he had from Hakka makes him formidable. so formidable that people even equate the Hakkas with the jews and written alot of books on the Hakka influence. Deng is definitely a Hakka(all historians have always say so as he once admit his tenacity is probably from his hakka roots). so in LKY. in fact LKY always proudly declare he is a hakka (although he can't speak the dialect and conversed at home with his mother in peranakan baba).

https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/11/hakkas-the-jews-of-asia.html
https://liamchingliu.wordpress.com/...in-east-and-southeast-asia-and-south-america/

In fact many political analyst believe the Hakkas saved China literally from disaster >>>the taiping revolution, tong menghui to sun yat sen to the long march are evidence of the revolutions that make China what itis today. there is even an academic paper written on it( by an American white university professor who believed the Hakkas saved China !!!!). Here the reference:
http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=headwaters
https://www.pdx.edu/intl/sites/www.pdx.edu.intl/files/Erbaugh Secret History of Hakkas CQ (2).pdf
Few China scholars or Chinese citizens know one of the most basic facts about Deng Xiaoping, Hu Yaobang, Zhu De, Chen Yi, Guo Moruo or many other modern leaders: they are all Hakka.

there are many examples of famous political leaders, including the leader of the Taiping rebellion, Hong Xiuquan; former president of China, Sun Yat-sen; former Chinese Communist party chairman, Deng Xiaoping. Outside of China, the Hakkas also had many leaders, including former prime minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew and his son and current prime minister Lee Hsien Loong; former president of Taiwan, Lee Teng-hui; current president of Taiwan, Ma Ying-Jeou; former prime minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra, and his younger sister and former prime minister, Yingluck Shinawatra; former president of the Philippines, Corazon Aquino, and former president of Guyana, Arthur Chung, Soong May-ling, and the influential Soong sisters. There is even a Hakka Supreme Court chief justice, Y.K.J. Yeung Sik Yuen, in the island of Mauritius. -

in fact at one time, in the 1990s, it was said ALL chinese people in the "3 Chinas" were ruled over by the Hakkas. Mainland China by DengXP, Taiwan(renegade Chna) by Lee Teng Hui, singapore aka "Small china" by Lee kuan yew.

ref: https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/11/hakkas-the-jews-of-asia.html#sthash.0CNrLUGc.dpuf
http://cominganarchy.com/2009/10/03/the-hakka-people-chinas-leadership-caste/

enough said academically. Go and research your history before commenting as some of the postings here esp those by retrenched are full of crap, idiotic and laughable. don't post subjective or dubious "facts" which you cannot verify or referenced. hahahahha
 
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HonkieSingie

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Chinese dog you contridicted yourself here.

Keep dreaming they were Manchus. If they were Chinese they couldn't conquer more 1/4 of Manchus, even today it's PRC modern territories are thanks to Manchus


Show me a chink/Han leader who created a empire as impressive as Qing.

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HonkieSingie

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george washington, stalin or hitler or even alexander are just plain inferior when you compared to what Sun yat sen or deng have done to change the course of a quarter of all humanity destiny forever(China population at that time was 25% of the world's pop). Never underestimate what the Hakkas can do. in fact at one time half of the China main standing committee or politburo were Hakkas. In fact the Mao's Long March would not have succeeded if not for the Hakkas who gave him refuge along a large part of the trail.
to understand the influnce go and read the book:The Secret History of the Hakkas: The Chinese Revolution as a Hakka Enterprise.
here is pasrt of the reference:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/654189?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Its in the genes . Not the language. so even if Deng speak sichuanese , the genes he had from Hakka makes him formidable. so formidable that people even equate the Hakkas with the jews and written alot of books on the Hakka influence. Deng is definitely a Hakka(all historians have always say so as he once admit his tenacity is probably from his hakka roots). so in LKY. in fact LKY always proudly declare he is a hakka (although he can't speak the dialect and conversed at home with his mother in peranakan baba).

https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/11/hakkas-the-jews-of-asia.html
https://liamchingliu.wordpress.com/...in-east-and-southeast-asia-and-south-america/

In fact many political analyst believe the Hakkas saved China literally from disaster >>>the taiping revolution, tong menghui to sun yat sen to the long march are evidence of the revolutions that make China what itis today. there is even an academic paper written on it( by an American white university professor who believed the Hakkas saved China !!!!). Here the reference:
http://digitalcommons.csbsju.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=headwaters
https://www.pdx.edu/intl/sites/www.pdx.edu.intl/files/Erbaugh Secret History of Hakkas CQ (2).pdf
Few China scholars or Chinese citizens know one of the most basic facts about Deng Xiaoping, Hu Yaobang, Zhu De, Chen Yi, Guo Moruo or many other modern leaders: they are all Hakka.

there are many examples of famous political leaders, including the leader of the Taiping rebellion, Hong Xiuquan; former president of China, Sun Yat-sen; former Chinese Communist party chairman, Deng Xiaoping. Outside of China, the Hakkas also had many leaders, including former prime minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew and his son and current prime minister Lee Hsien Loong; former president of Taiwan, Lee Teng-hui; current president of Taiwan, Ma Ying-Jeou; former prime minister of Thailand, Thaksin Shinawatra, and his younger sister and former prime minister, Yingluck Shinawatra; former president of the Philippines, Corazon Aquino, and former president of Guyana, Arthur Chung, Soong May-ling, and the influential Soong sisters. There is even a Hakka Supreme Court chief justice, Y.K.J. Yeung Sik Yuen, in the island of Mauritius. -

in fact at one time, in the 1990s, it was said ALL chinese people in the "3 Chinas" were ruled over by the Hakkas. Mainland China by DengXP, Taiwan(renegade Chna) by Lee Teng Hui, singapore aka "Small china" by Lee kuan yew.

ref: https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/11/hakkas-the-jews-of-asia.html#sthash.0CNrLUGc.dpuf
http://cominganarchy.com/2009/10/03/the-hakka-people-chinas-leadership-caste/

enough said academically. Go and research your history before commenting as some of the postings here esp those by retrenched are full of crap, idiotic and laughable. don't post subjective or dubious "facts" which you cannot verify or referenced. hahahahha

So you trust a pseudo-articles as sources without academic source? is about as lame as Black people claiming how they created all the civilizations in the world and ruled the world -------> http://realhistoryww.com/


I have respect for you Hakka, we are both descendants of Han. But you Jews of Asia ? last time I checked Jews have won more than 200 science nobel prize with 150 world boxing champions. Hakka have 0 boxing world champions and 0 nobel prize winners. You can claim that. Exaggerated article and wikipedia that once claim you have signficant influence of world history is now changed to chinese history.

Deng Xiaoping never said he was Hakka. There's no knowledge, if you go to Baidu Chinese page they don't even list Deng as among the list of Hakka people.

Corazon Aquino, is only just a article rumor. He isn't listed as Hakka in neither Baidu or wikipedia.


Do you have Cantonese cultural hubs like Hong Kong, Macau. I mean if you're so damn superior don't you have the luck and privileged of Cantonese people. Why are you Hakka cities ranked only in the no.80 and no.90 among the wealthiest.



Yes Yes Yes..... Hakka genes make them formidable.

That's why Hakka people were ruled 50 years by Japanese in Taiwan

That's why Hakka were ruled 156 years by British in Hong Kong

That's why KMT of Wu Chinese ruled Taiwan 40 years and oppressed your Hakka people/language ( this include Hokkien people/language )

That's why Hakka escaped to Southern China from all the invasion, you were also ruled by Mongols and Manchus for 400 years, so what make you so special ?




Even your Taiping rebellion lasted for only 14 years , showing that you're not capable of creating a empire and really showing you're also just a piece of shit Southern Chinese with many limits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion





If you Hakka people can show you once created a Hakka empire that ruled from East Asia, Southeast Asia, Central Asia. Than yes you Hakka are superior otherwise I'm not impressed.
 
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Keep dreaming they were Manchus. If they were Chinese they couldn't more 1/4 of Manchus, even today it's modern territories are thanks to Manchus


Show me a chink/Han leader who created a empire as impressive as Qing.

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Qing_Dynasty_map.png


Fuck off manchus are Chinese since they are a part of China you stupid nigger.
 

retrenched

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So you trust a pseudo-articles as sources without academic source? is about as lame as Black people claiming how they created all the civilizations in the world and ruled the world -------> http://realhistoryww.com/


I have respect for you Hakka, we are both descendants of Han. But you Jews of Asia ? last time I checked Jews have won more than 200 science nobel prize with 150 world boxing champions. Hakka have 0 boxing world champions and 0 nobel prize winners. You can claim that

Do you have Cantonese cultural hubs like Hong Kong, Macau. I mean if you're damn superior don't you the luck and priveldge of Cantonese people. Why are you Hakka cities ranked only in the no.80 and no.90.



Yes Yes Yes..... Hakka genes make them formidable.

That's why Hakka people were ruled 50 years by Japanese in Taiwan

That's why Hakka were ruled 156 years by British in Hong Kong

That's why KMT of Wu Chinese ruled Taiwan 40 years and oppressed your Hakka people/language ( this include Hokkien people/language )

That's why Hakka escaped to Southern China, you were ruled by Mongols and Manchus for 400 years, so what make you so special ?




Even your Taiping rebellion empire lasted for only 14 years, showing that you're not capable of creating a empire and really showing you're also just a piece of shit Southern Chinese with many limits.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion


Shut the hell

clap clap clap think the bigger is hurt cos everyone on the net is slamming the great hakka translator.
 

HonkieSingie

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clap clap clap think the bigger is hurt cos everyone on the net is slamming the great hakka translator.

Actually I might change my mind if he can find a Hakka empire.

Let's respect the Hakka people...... they did contribute a lot to fight against foreign imperialist. However their delusional achievement are often exaggerated aswell.
Deng Xiaoping is clearly not Hakka, if you look at Chinese, even in Baidu they officially don't include him in the list of Hakka because there's only speculation if only his ancestors were Hakka or not.

99% of the people of the world don't know what Hakka is but they surely know what Jews are.
 

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Fuck off manchus are Chinese since they are a part of China you stupid nigger.



Manchus are Chinese my ass.

Manchu language = Tungusic language , this means they are related with Xibo people, Evenki and other jungle forest tribes of Siberia.

Qing dynasty heirachy

Manchus 1st class
Mongols, Korean 2nd class.

Bottom class

Northern Han Chinese
Southern Han Chinese
Ethnic minorities
 

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Manchus are Chinese my ass.

Manchu language = Tungusic language , this means they are related with Xibo people, Evenki and other jungle forest tribes of Siberia.

Qing dynasty heirachy

Manchus 1st class
Mongols, Korean 2nd class.

Bottom class

Northern Han Chinese
Southern Han Chinese
Ethnic minorities

fuck off han Chinese allowed manchus to take over and it was due to them that allowed China to grow you lying nigger.
 

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Okay, allow me to make some corrections, please do not believe in some pseudo-articles


Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew <-------- Hakka confirmed


and his son and current prime minister Lee Hsien Loong; <------- Hakka confirmed ( even though he is 3/4 Hokkien )


former president of Taiwan, Lee Teng-hui; <-------------- Hakka confirmed ( even though he is 1/4 Taiwanese aborigine )


current president of Taiwan, Ma Ying-Jeou; <---------- Hakka confirmed ( he claims his ancestor was Hakka, he is actually 1/8 Hakka and 7/8 Hunnanese )


former prime minister of Thailand Thaksin Shinawatra <------------- Hakka confirmed ( 1/4 Thai ancestry )


and his younger sister and former prime minister, Yingluck Shinawatra; <------------- Hakka confirmed ( 1/4 Thai ancestry )


and former president of Guyana, Arthur Chung <------------ Hakka confirmed


UNCONFIRMED HAKKA


former president of the Philippines, Corazon Aquino <----------- She speaks Hoklo and is Hokkien, she ain't listed as Hakka either. It's only a few random article speculations that have no academic support.


Deng Xiaoping <----------- His Hakka ancestry is only speculation, and he never identified as one.


Soong May-ling, and the influential Soong sisters <--------------------- Unconfirmed, and her mother side is non-Hakka , his father may or may not have Hakka ancestor



Charlie Soong is believed to be mostly of aborigine Hainnan with a 300 years ago paternal Hakka ancestor ( but is not absolute confirmed ). he daughters have more Han Chinese blood from Shanghai.

In other words, they are about as Hakka as a white person claiming to have black ancestor and yet still look like Tom cruise/or Brad pitt. Their Hakka ancestry is very limited that's why Chinese Baidu don't list him.

His extreme southeast Asian face is proof of his overwhelming aboriginal blood.

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HonkieSingie

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fuck off han Chinese allowed manchus to take over and it was due to them that allowed China to grow you lying nigger.



I found the video. I see you're another one of those shameless Chinese barbarians who claim invaders as Chinese, no wonder the Japs look down on us. Would you dumbass claim those half caucasian Uyghurs as Chinese ? have some pride.

The reason for the Chinese revolution was because China was being held back from advancing, modernization. Also the unfair treatment to Han Chinese people while Manchus always getting superior upperclass treatment made many Han people to resent them. The corrupt Qing made all Han Chinese 3rd class and 4th class citizens while they themselves first class.


[video=youtube;jD-hO1Sde_8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-hO1Sde_8[/video]
 
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I found the video. I see you're another one of those shameless Chinese barbarians who claim invaders as Chinese, no wonder the Japs look down on us. Would you dumbass claim those half caucasian Uyghurs as Chinese ? have some pride.

The reason for the Chinese revolution was because China was being held back from advancing, modernization. Also the unfair treatment to Han Chinese people while Manchus always getting superior upperclass treatment made many Han people to resent them. The corrupt Qing made all Han Chinese 3rd class and 4th class citizens while they themselves first class.


[video=youtube;jD-hO1Sde_8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD-hO1Sde_8[/video]

rofl at you using some stupid video to document your claims. That's like finding some black power videos that ancient greeks were black and then suddenly it legitimises your claims. :rolleyes:

Qing dynasty was aided by han Chinese and they later became Chinese and now Chinese = all citizens of China and ethnic Chinese outside China. Understand nigger Chinese dog.
 

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you fucking retarded Chinese dog. turks are a large heterogeneous group that consists of many ethnic subgroups. That's like saying the germanic ppl which includes english ppl since english is a germanic language instead of saying germany which would then be solely one nation if germanic was used you can include english, dutch, austrian into the mix which is what you're doing here with turkish.



Do you know the Tang dynasty emperor is Han + Xianbei mix , he used mostly Turkic soldiers and a minority of Turkicfied Han Chinese soldiers to conquer.


TURKS IN THE TANG MILITARY MADE UP 70% of Tang dynasty soldiers, the rest are Turkified Han with very minority of Han.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turks_in_the_Tang_military


If this doesn't prove Chinese are weak as shit than I don't know what does, I mean a mere 400,000 Turkic tribes represents the majority of the Tang dynasty.

250px-Tang_Dynasty_circa_700_CE.png



Even the biggest expansion of Tang dynasty empire was a mix of Han/ Xianbei leadership with mostly Turkic and sinicized Han-Turk
 

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rofl at you using some stupid video to document your claims. That's like finding some black power videos that ancient greeks were black and then suddenly it legitimises your claims. :rolleyes:

Qing dynasty was aided by han Chinese and they later became Chinese and now Chinese = all citizens of China and ethnic Chinese outside China. Understand nigger Chinese dog.


Yeah, your logic is like saying the Mughals Mongol-Turks who conquered India for 300 years was also Indian. The conquest of South India was also aided by North Indian soldiers.

No No No.... Qing dynasty was aided by Han Chinese banner who defected to the Manchus. The Manchus allowed Mongolian princess to marry in the royal family but didn't allow Han Chinese.

Han in the Qing are lower class citizen and lower status in your empire.


Sun Yat-sen

“ To restore our national independence, we must first restore the Chinese nation. To restore the Chinese nation, we must drive the barbarian Manchus back to the Changbai Mountains. To get rid of the barbarians, we must first overthrow the present tyrannical, dictatorial, ugly, and corrupt Qing government. Fellow countrymen, a revolution is the only means to overthrow the Qing government!
 
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