Serious Pinky cannot understand that China will resort to war over its Core Interest

Pinky and his MFA/SID advisors seem to be living in a world of fantasy. They just cannot comprehend that the South China Sea issue is viewed as a CORE INTEREST by China and is NON-NEGOTIABLE, no matter how one interprets International Law.

They still believe that China could be reasoned with and brought to the negotiation table. They believe that if ASEAN remained united, it could meet China head on as equals. They believe that the US would provide the cover for ASEAN's interest. These experts are actually leading Pinky towards a dead end.......

China will NEVER bulge from its stand - that the South China Sea islands are Sovereign Chinese Territory and they will resort to armed action if anyone tries to test their determination.



China and USSR clashed in 1969 over their border....

Vietnam pushed China to the brink in 1979 ....... at the end, China took the highlands of Vietnam inspite of heavy casualties......




In the pre-dawn hours of February 17, 1979, the spearheads of a PLA force of 200,000 men in 20 divisions supported by 400 tanks and 1,500 artillery pieces attacked in the direction of five regional capitals. Fully aware of Vietnam’s combat experienced modern air defense system, the PLA kept its aircraft grounded.

It was very much a conventional operation, with the Chinese attacking down major roads, overrunning population centers, and seizing the controlling high ground. The PLA relied on human wave attacks, likely losing 3,000 men in the first few days as the Vietnamese infiltrated and raided behind PLA lines. In one example of the deadliness of these tactics, a Vietnamese female sniper killed eight PLA tank commanders. When the commanders’ outraged crewmen caught her, they pinned her to the ground and crushed her beneath the treads of their tanks.

Chinese artillery was outranged and outfought by the more modern and experienced (Soviet-manufactured) Vietnamese guns that pounded PLA troop concentrations and slowmoving columns. The PLA lost at least 100 tanks to the enemy’s advanced Sagger antitank guided missiles. As if the attacking Chinese did not have enough problems with outmoded equipment, tactics and doctrines, they also suffered great friction caused by the absence of a clearly identified rank structure – a holdover of Maoist People’s War doctrine.

The PLA modified its operational goals to concentrate 70,000 men against the regional capital of Long Son, a strategic point controlling access to the Red River Delta and Hanoi. (See “History’s Top 10 Forgotten Victories,” March 2010 ACG.) Defending Long Son was the Vietnamese 3d Gold Star Division. The PLA drove the division back toward the city, which had been fortified for just such an event. On February 27 the PLA seized the dominant terrain north of Long Son with a tank-infantry assault preceded by a massive artillery strike. Within a few days the Vietnamese were surrounded, and on March 2 the PLA closed in for the kill. During three days of ruthless house-to-house fighting, the Chinese wiped out the Gold Star Division and reduced Long Son to rubble. On March 5 the capture of the high ground south of the city opened up the vital Red River Delta to invasion. Beijing, however, then announced that enough punishment had been administered and ordered a withdrawal that was completed in 10 days.

Neither side advertised its casualties. The PLA admitted to 7,000 dead and 15,000 wounded, but Western estimates ran as high as 28,000 Chinese dead and 43,000 wounded. Vietnam did not release casualty figures other than widely publicizing 100,000 Vietnamese civilian deaths. The PLA’s “scorched-earth” campaign that left a swath of destruction in its path gave some credence to Vietnam’s claimed civilian toll.

http://www.historynet.com/war-of-the-dragons-the-sino-vietnamese-war-1979.htm

In 1988, China clashed with Vietnam in the Spratley Islands.

About 100 Vietnamese troops were shot while they stood in the water on a disputed shoal....... See the shooting at 1 min 45 sec of this clip:



[video=youtube;YFxLeNVLRoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFxLeNVLRoM[/video]

74 of the bodies were never recovered......

Lee the punk and his dogs will learn the power of 5000 years of violence veiled in culture. They are even more extremely than the Japanese when they need to be. The curse of Sang Nila Utama is at play.

Bigfuck said:

Lee the punk and his dogs will learn the power of 5000 years of violence veiled in culture. They are even more extremely than the Japanese when they need to be. The curse of Sang Nila Utama is at play.

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Our pinkie PM only knows how to fix the opposition in local politics. On the international stage, nobody respects and takes him seriously because everyone knows he is just a nerd and the ultimate balls carrier of the USA without any original ideas. Lament!

China has no legal right to the south China sea n it's bullying other countries. And tat is right?

Can help LHL to learn by landing a Chinese missile inside his PMO.



Rather obviously, Xijinping does not want to wait for LHL to leave by next GE. He want to settle business with LHL now.

The_Hypocrite said:

China has no legal right to the south China sea n it's bullying other countries. And tat is right?

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Be careful what you say. Singapore has no right on the waters around us. Wait till our neighbors go to fake Hague Court.

Victory2016 said:

Pinky and his MFA/SID advisors seem to be living in a world of fantasy. They just cannot comprehend that the South China Sea issue is viewed as a CORE INTEREST by China and is NON-NEGOTIABLE, no matter how one interprets International Law.

They still believe that China could be reasoned with and brought to the negotiation table. They believe that if ASEAN remained united, it could meet China head on as equals. They believe that the US would provide the cover for ASEAN's interest. These experts are actually leading Pinky towards a dead end.......

China will NEVER bulge from its stand - that the South China Sea islands are Sovereign Chinese Territory and they will resort to armed action if anyone tries to test their determination.

China and USSR clashed in 1969 over their border....

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Sinkie losers cannot understand why the leader they voted in is so fucking useless... The type of citizen will voted the type of leader. They deserve the leader that they voted in.

Precisely as bro Hypocrite said. Core and willing to go to war so what? Yo mamma ass also core interest to me and I will fight for it, does it mean her ass belong to me? Civilized man reason and talk. China man Xi new to the ways of the civilized world. You appease and appease them, one day they core your wife's ass too.

KuanTi01 said:

Our pinkie PM only knows how to fix the opposition in local politics. On the international stage, nobody respects and takes him seriously because everyone knows he is just a nerd and the ultimate balls carrier of the USA without any original ideas. Lament!

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Everyone outside of zikapore knows he would never have been PM in a million years if his father was not Lee Con You.

Victory2016 said:

Pinky and his MFA/SID advisors seem to be living in a world of fantasy. They just cannot comprehend that the South China Sea issue is viewed as a CORE INTEREST by China and is NON-NEGOTIABLE, no matter how one interprets International Law.

They still believe that China could be reasoned with and brought to the negotiation table. They believe that if ASEAN remained united, it could meet China head on as equals. They believe that the US would provide the cover for ASEAN's interest. These experts are actually leading Pinky towards a dead end.......

China will NEVER bulge from its stand - that the South China Sea islands are Sovereign Chinese Territory and they will resort to armed action if anyone tries to test their determination.

China and USSR clashed in 1969 over their border....

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No one gives a shit about China's core interest in South China seas because its fake. any idiot can look at a map and see that its impossible for china to claim the whole south china sea which stretches from the shores of Hainan to Singapore, and passes Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Phillippines etc. If the south china sea belongs to china as they claim, then all of a sudden you have countries like Malaysia and Thailand having a border with China. China might as well say that the East China Sea also belongs to them and that japan has no right to it, or that the Yellow Sea belongs to them and that SOuth Korean is trespassing on it.

Victory2016 said:

Pinky and his MFA/SID advisors seem to be living in a world of fantasy. They just cannot comprehend that the South China Sea issue is viewed as a CORE INTEREST by China and is NON-NEGOTIABLE, no matter how one interprets International Law.

They still believe that China could be reasoned with and brought to the negotiation table. They believe that if ASEAN remained united, it could meet China head on as equals. They believe that the US would provide the cover for ASEAN's interest. These experts are actually leading Pinky towards a dead end.......

China will NEVER bulge from its stand - that the South China Sea islands are Sovereign Chinese Territory and they will resort to armed action if anyone tries to test their determination.

China and USSR clashed in 1969 over their border....

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China can go fark spider.

mojito said:

Precisely as bro Hypocrite said. Core and willing to go to war so what? Yo mamma ass also core interest to me and I will fight for it, does it mean her ass belong to me? Civilized man reason and talk. China man Xi new to the ways of the civilized world. You appease and appease them, one day they core your wife's ass too.

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Wah so daring? I suggest you go volunteer frontline fight the commies when they cum.

The US Hegemony is ending just like Zhou Dynasty back 3000 years ago in China, which usher in the Spring-Autumn/Warring-States era. Such kind of tourmoil is repeated in history over and over again (end of Rome, end of Spanish Empire, end of Qing Dynasty, end of British Empire). The tigers fight under one is left in the mountain. The smart underlings will go with where the wind blows.

The world is never civilised. THe western world f**ked the rest of the world, controlled the resources and usher in their 200 years of prosperity. One very good example is King Leopold 2 of Belgium who gave his own people democratic elections, while enslaving the Africans in his colonies, sucking their blood to boost Belgium's economy. Millions died. You can google and read about it.

And the British. Enough said.

The Americans in their rise, kicked Spanish out of Caribbean area (their "South China China"). And they kept supporting one dictatorship after another, the kind that will tow their line (mass enslavement of locals by elites, export commodity at cheap price to US MNCs).

Sinkieland was "lucky" at WW2 to be anchored as part of the outsourcing centres for US MNC. Just like Japan, later followed by HK, Taiwan, and S.Korea. All these countries are populated by naturally hard working, slave driving races. And also anchored in strategic locations outside Communist China. While you in Singapore (a tiny red dot) is getting richer, many of your ASEAN neighbours are screwed by ultra corrupt and evil governments who tow the line of United States (Suharto, Marcos). These assholes turn their country into a cheap commodity supplier to US, enslaving their own people, sucking the wealth, banking it offshore (Singapore is one such centre).

Now another shift is coming again, with US as a dying bankrupt empire. Those who does not know how to flow with it, or play the game will be gone.

And I suspect Singapore has zero clue about this game.

You beloved LKY was one of such brillant game player (during the era when British Empire is ending) who can be British dog, Japanese dog, Socialist dog, American dog, CCP dog, as long as he survived. He goes wherever the wind blows.