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Chitchat Future Of Singapore

ckmpd

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Life is becoming increasing difficult for Singaporeans. We are only two years after the death of LKY. Many experts have predicted that Singapore cant survive after LKY. Just look at LHL and the pap leaders. They are devoid of ideas and are making life unbearable. They are using crippled ex NMP and other PAP IBs to berate Singaporeans for desiring a good work-life balance.

1. Why have an independent SG when life is getting so difficult for Singaporeans?
2. Why have an independent SG when we cant take care of our poor,sick and aged and everyone has to be stressed throughout their lives and there is no reprieve?
3. Why have an independent Singapore when we have no water, no food of our own and have to drink shit water and have to eat vegetables laced with pesticide?

Is it better for Singapore:
1. to merge with Malaysia or
2. to be part of China?
3. to be part of Australia?

Why be a singaporean and be controlled by a fumbling PAP?

Think abt it!!
 
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kryonlight

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Is it better for Singapore:
1. to merge with Malaysia or
2. to be part of China?
3. to be part of Australia?

We are better off being part of USA. Amos Yee escaped there. It must be the smartest choice!
 
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frenchbriefs

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Doesn't matter,they should plan dynamite around this island and sink it like a coral reef.the future of singapore belongs Under da sea along with the fishes.
 
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kryonlight

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Actually, Honkies feel they are worse off. 87% says Hong Kong is in decline. Hong Kong is now nothing more than a second-tier PRC city.

Hong Kong elite fails to grasp extent of public anger over city’s decline

My mainland Chinese friends tell me that the number one characteristic that they loathe in Hong Kong Chinese is their complete lack of empathy for the world outside of Hong Kong. The serial inability of government and business leaders to make decisive policy changes to arrest a downward spiralling economy is a laughable contrast to how Hong Kong Chinese used to condescend towards mainlanders’ own shortcomings only 20 years ago.

They see that in its self-absorption and parochialism Hong Kong’s elite has completely failed to grasp the extent of public anger at the deterioration of almost everything in the city. Hong Kong public policy has failed on so many fronts; today’s generation has never had to tolerate a flatline in their city’s prosperity and prospects. Our current candidates for Chief Executive may not understand the depth of this outrage, but they are complicit in all of it.

As we swing into a new year with a looming election for the role of Chief Executive, candidates will need to demonstrate an ability to restore stability to Hong Kong. But so far, few recognize or publicly advocate the need for strong policy initiatives in areas such as chronically high property prices and the wealth and income gap. Confronting quality of life issues is the key to deflecting political grumbling, but Hong Kong’s elite can’t seem to countenance anything that sounds like heresy.

The biggest challenge in “draining the swamp” in Hong Kong terms is that the senior ranks of government and our business class are populated by people aged 50 or over. Their collective vision was forged in Hong Kong’s glory days of the 80s and 90s when light manufacturing, trading and property flipping ruled the economy. China’s ascendancy arrived much faster than anyone outside of China anticipated. The failure to evolve Hong Kong’s industries and economy are their legacy.

Hong Kong has muddled through its conceited, but misguided belief that business people are best suited for leading a government and society that is dedicated to making money. Despite their best intentions and Beijing’s support, CH Tung and Henry Tang and CY Leung failed to demonstrate the political instincts, communications and leadership abilities to sustain long term credibility.

The only remaining candidates who can be trusted are government bureaucrats. To an electorate clamouring for straightforward yet almost disruptive improvement, only candidates as familiar as faded wallpaper are offered. There is no plausible alternative to joyless, uninspiring and arrogant entitlement. Meaningful policy change is almost impossible.

But, real opportunity for economic revitalisation does exist. The old tycoons have lost their influence in Beijing. Long gone are the 80s and 90s when they could use their longstanding relationships with key leaders and request anything they wanted. It was a time when Beijing actually needed Hong Kong.

Today, China needs almost nothing from Hong Kong except banking services. Indeed, the tycoons’ descendants have no influence in Beijing’s leadership circles. And their demands and opinions are largely ignored.

The new generation no longer wields the patience to establish their fathers’ personal relationships with new leaders as this requires years to cultivate. The only clout their sons and daughters hold over Hong Kong’s property market is that they happen to own a lot of property. The only residual local political influence is a result of that inheritance. Moving against their interests is no longer so onerous.
 

ckmpd

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Loyal
Actually, Honkies feel they are worse off. 87% says Hong Kong is in decline. Hong Kong is now nothing more than a second-tier PRC city.

Hong Kong elite fails to grasp extent of public anger over city’s decline

My mainland Chinese friends tell me that the number one characteristic that they loathe in Hong Kong Chinese is their complete lack of empathy for the world outside of Hong Kong. The serial inability of government and business leaders to make decisive policy changes to arrest a downward spiralling economy is a laughable contrast to how Hong Kong Chinese used to condescend towards mainlanders’ own shortcomings only 20 years ago.

They see that in its self-absorption and parochialism Hong Kong’s elite has completely failed to grasp the extent of public anger at the deterioration of almost everything in the city. Hong Kong public policy has failed on so many fronts; today’s generation has never had to tolerate a flatline in their city’s prosperity and prospects. Our current candidates for Chief Executive may not understand the depth of this outrage, but they are complicit in all of it.

As we swing into a new year with a looming election for the role of Chief Executive, candidates will need to demonstrate an ability to restore stability to Hong Kong. But so far, few recognize or publicly advocate the need for strong policy initiatives in areas such as chronically high property prices and the wealth and income gap. Confronting quality of life issues is the key to deflecting political grumbling, but Hong Kong’s elite can’t seem to countenance anything that sounds like heresy.

The biggest challenge in “draining the swamp” in Hong Kong terms is that the senior ranks of government and our business class are populated by people aged 50 or over. Their collective vision was forged in Hong Kong’s glory days of the 80s and 90s when light manufacturing, trading and property flipping ruled the economy. China’s ascendancy arrived much faster than anyone outside of China anticipated. The failure to evolve Hong Kong’s industries and economy are their legacy.

Hong Kong has muddled through its conceited, but misguided belief that business people are best suited for leading a government and society that is dedicated to making money. Despite their best intentions and Beijing’s support, CH Tung and Henry Tang and CY Leung failed to demonstrate the political instincts, communications and leadership abilities to sustain long term credibility.

The only remaining candidates who can be trusted are government bureaucrats. To an electorate clamouring for straightforward yet almost disruptive improvement, only candidates as familiar as faded wallpaper are offered. There is no plausible alternative to joyless, uninspiring and arrogant entitlement. Meaningful policy change is almost impossible.

But, real opportunity for economic revitalisation does exist. The old tycoons have lost their influence in Beijing. Long gone are the 80s and 90s when they could use their longstanding relationships with key leaders and request anything they wanted. It was a time when Beijing actually needed Hong Kong.

Today, China needs almost nothing from Hong Kong except banking services. Indeed, the tycoons’ descendants have no influence in Beijing’s leadership circles. And their demands and opinions are largely ignored.

The new generation no longer wields the patience to establish their fathers’ personal relationships with new leaders as this requires years to cultivate. The only clout their sons and daughters hold over Hong Kong’s property market is that they happen to own a lot of property. The only residual local political influence is a result of that inheritance. Moving against their interests is no longer so onerous.

HK will survive because HK wont die of hunger. Can that be said of Singapore?
 

frenchbriefs

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Asset
Actually, Honkies feel they are worse off. 87% says Hong Kong is in decline. Hong Kong is now nothing more than a second-tier PRC city.

Hong Kong elite fails to grasp extent of public anger over city’s decline

My mainland Chinese friends tell me that the number one characteristic that they loathe in Hong Kong Chinese is their complete lack of empathy for the world outside of Hong Kong. The serial inability of government and business leaders to make decisive policy changes to arrest a downward spiralling economy is a laughable contrast to how Hong Kong Chinese used to condescend towards mainlanders’ own shortcomings only 20 years ago.

They see that in its self-absorption and parochialism Hong Kong’s elite has completely failed to grasp the extent of public anger at the deterioration of almost everything in the city. Hong Kong public policy has failed on so many fronts; today’s generation has never had to tolerate a flatline in their city’s prosperity and prospects. Our current candidates for Chief Executive may not understand the depth of this outrage, but they are complicit in all of it.

As we swing into a new year with a looming election for the role of Chief Executive, candidates will need to demonstrate an ability to restore stability to Hong Kong. But so far, few recognize or publicly advocate the need for strong policy initiatives in areas such as chronically high property prices and the wealth and income gap. Confronting quality of life issues is the key to deflecting political grumbling, but Hong Kong’s elite can’t seem to countenance anything that sounds like heresy.

The biggest challenge in “draining the swamp” in Hong Kong terms is that the senior ranks of government and our business class are populated by people aged 50 or over. Their collective vision was forged in Hong Kong’s glory days of the 80s and 90s when light manufacturing, trading and property flipping ruled the economy. China’s ascendancy arrived much faster than anyone outside of China anticipated. The failure to evolve Hong Kong’s industries and economy are their legacy.

Hong Kong has muddled through its conceited, but misguided belief that business people are best suited for leading a government and society that is dedicated to making money. Despite their best intentions and Beijing’s support, CH Tung and Henry Tang and CY Leung failed to demonstrate the political instincts, communications and leadership abilities to sustain long term credibility.

The only remaining candidates who can be trusted are government bureaucrats. To an electorate clamouring for straightforward yet almost disruptive improvement, only candidates as familiar as faded wallpaper are offered. There is no plausible alternative to joyless, uninspiring and arrogant entitlement. Meaningful policy change is almost impossible.

But, real opportunity for economic revitalisation does exist. The old tycoons have lost their influence in Beijing. Long gone are the 80s and 90s when they could use their longstanding relationships with key leaders and request anything they wanted. It was a time when Beijing actually needed Hong Kong.

Today, China needs almost nothing from Hong Kong except banking services. Indeed, the tycoons’ descendants have no influence in Beijing’s leadership circles. And their demands and opinions are largely ignored.

The new generation no longer wields the patience to establish their fathers’ personal relationships with new leaders as this requires years to cultivate. The only clout their sons and daughters hold over Hong Kong’s property market is that they happen to own a lot of property. The only residual local political influence is a result of that inheritance. Moving against their interests is no longer so onerous.

Hong Kong seems to be suffering the same symptoms as sick man SG,since we are not important anymore maybe we can form an alliance and go somewhere and die in peace.
 

ckmpd

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Hong Kong seems to be suffering the same symptoms as sick man SG,since we are not important anymore maybe we can form an alliance and go somewhere and die in peace.

We wont die and we can be cured if we rid ourselves of PAP and go under a strong country.

It sucks and we deserve to die if we choose to remain under a fumbling PAP
 

JohnTan

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Generous Asset
We wont die and we can be cured if we rid ourselves of PAP and go under a strong country.

It sucks and we deserve to die if we choose to remain under a fumbling PAP

Sinkies agree that a fumbling PAP is still better than the incompetentt and unelectable opposition.
 

ckmpd

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Loyal
Sinkies agree that a fumbling PAP is still better than the incompetentt and unelectable opposition.

Singaporeans will wake up to the fact that fumbling pap will lead Singapore into doom. Look at the pap now.

1. there is no leadership
2. there are no economic plans except build more condos and build more malls. what kind of stupid economic plan is that
3. there are no strategies to help the poor, the sick and the aged. the only pap strategy is for the sick not to get sick, the poor not to get poor, the aged to continue to work until death. what kind of silly strategy is that?
4. there is no effective plan to realistically train our military except to wayang the NSFs through sbmt and then to waste the rest of their two years in the units. The SAF personnel look so pathetic and ill trained
5. SG's financial market is dead. So many are going to get themselves delisted and trading volumes are so low
6. law and order is unstable with foreign CISCO and AETOs officers who are ill prepared and ill trained. Just look at the PRC e-scooterist who trashed his e-scooter to defy the enforcement officer who was helpless
 
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JohnTan

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Generous Asset
singaporeans will wake up to the fact that fumbling pap will lead Singapore into doom

Sinkies believe that a fumbling PAP may lead singapore into doom. They also believe that if the unelectable opposition gain power, they will certainly lead Singapore into doom.

We will take our chances with the PAP.
 

ckmpd

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Loyal
Sinkies believe that a fumbling PAP may lead singapore into doom. They also believe that if the unelectable opposition gain power, they will certainly lead Singapore into doom.

We will take our chances with the PAP.

Many Singaporeans know the PAP and are opting for Australia, USA, Malaysia, Thailand, China,

Instead of going individually, it may be wise for us to go enbloc to another country as listed in Post#1
 

JohnTan

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Generous Asset
Many Singaporeans know the PAP and are opting for Australia, USA, Malaysia, Thailand, China,

Instead of going individually, it may be wise for us to go enbloc to another country as listed in Post#1

My family and I are loyal to Singapore. We will never abandon Ah Gong's work here.
 

ckmpd

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My family and I are loyal to Singapore. We will never abandon Ah Gong's work here.

My family and I are loyal to Singapore too. It is because we are loyal to SG that we know PAP is not good for Singapore. Conversely those who think pap is good iare not loyal to Singapore.

How can anyone who know that pap will kill Singapore, yet they choose to serve pap, be considered loyal to the country? They are traitors
 
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virus

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batman1

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Singapore is a conglomerate ,NOT a country, where the most of the wealth is in the hands of the PAP Elites and Business Corporations .The Singaporean citizens are just production digits.They have been marginalized and will become a minority in the very near future and they will be replaced by so-called faster,better and cheaper foreign workers in the assembly line in order to attain KPIs/maximize profits for the interests of the
PAP Elites and Business Corporations.As Singaporean citizens are just too timid ,they will be expendable slaves of the conglomerate where they will be crushed and squeezed dry until they are condemned as useless and deleted.They are numbed from making ends meet and they talked about the injustices but most did nothing .This is their fate.
 
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