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Chitchat Is your obesity uncontrollable? Get yourself tested for this virus!

kryonlight

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The Mysterious Virus That Could Cause Obesity

RANDY IS 62 years old and stands tall at six foot one. He grew up on a farm in Glasford, Illinois, in the 1950s. Randy was raised with the strong discipline of a farming family. From the time he was five, he would get out of bed at dawn, and before breakfast he’d put on his boots and jeans to milk cows, lift hay, and clean the chicken coops. Day in and out, no matter the weather or how he felt, Randy did his physically demanding chores. Only when his work was complete would he come into the kitchen for breakfast.

Tending to the chickens was hard work—it involved getting into the pen, clearing birds out of their dirty cages, and shooing them into a holding enclosure. This process was always a little scary because the animals could be quite aggressive after being cooped up all night. On one of these occasions, when Randy was 11, a particularly large and perturbed rooster swung its claw and gave him a good spurring on his leg. Randy felt the piercing of his skin and squealed in pain. He said it felt like being gored by a thick fishhook. The rooster left a long gash, and blood streamed down Randy’s leg to his ankle. He ran back to the house to clean the wound, as chickens are filthy after a night in their cages.

Some days later, Randy noticed a change in his appetite. He was constantly hungry. He felt drawn to food and thought about it all the time. He started eating in between meals and overeating when he finally sat down to dinner. Randy had always been a skinny kid, but in the course of the next year, he gained about 10 pounds. His parents thought it might be puberty, though it seemed a little early. His pudginess was also unusual given that everyone else in the family was thin. Randy was no stranger to discipline. He forced himself to eat less, switched to lower-calorie foods and exercised more. But by the time he was a teenager, he was bouncing between 30 and 40 pounds overweight. He says, “I gained all of this weight even though these were some of my most active years on the farm.”

Randy’s family supported his efforts to control his weight. They made lower-calorie foods, gave him time to exercise, and didn’t pressure him to eat things he didn’t want. However, he continued to struggle with his weight through college. Randy kept thinking back to the moment everything changed. He had been the skinniest kid among his friends. And then he got cut by that chicken.
 

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I've read before that scientists have traced DDT used in farming to be a main cause for obesity in western countries.

DDT wrecks the human metabolic rate, making the person always feeling cold due to the body's inability to metabolise properly
 

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Sugar and alcohol are ur two greatest enemies,sugar and alcohol share the same chemistry structure and can only be metabolised by ur liver or insulin.in essence they are poisons.there are massive amounts of sugar in our processed food diets nowadays,food companies are doing their best to draw our attention away from that.sugar is the number one cause of obesity,diabetes,cancer,heart disease and much much more.

[video=youtube;dBnniua6-oM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM&t=4748s[/video]
 
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DDT was banned in the US the home of widespread obesity nearly 40 years ago. In those days obesity was rare and usually due to gland disorder.

The obesity that you see in the US and Australia are due to fast food, potato chip, corn chips, tacos, burritos, high sugar content cereals, sugared drinks. ben and jerry ice-cream. You can literally see these guys eating these things. When you super size things, there are even more consequences.

You might want to read Rachel Carson's stunning book - Silent Spring on DDT and what it actually causes. All the creatures that were affected by DDT have since recovered after the ban.

I've read before that scientists have traced DDT used in farming to be a main cause for obesity in western countries.

DDT wrecks the human metabolic rate, making the person always feeling cold due to the body's inability to metabolise properly
 

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In the visitors comment below the article, Mindbreaker posted :

There is too much money in treating chronic conditions. DARPA funded something that can cure all sorts of viruses, but it just disappeared into a black hole never to be seen again. It was called DRACO (Double-stranded RNA Activated Caspase Oligomerizer) and it killed every virus thrown at it.

This adenovirus causing obesity is not a new revelation. This has been known for years. The first tip-off was that the obesity epidemic acted exactly like a spreading infection through the population. It followed the same geographic patterns. There is almost nothing else it could have been. There are at least 3 adeoviruses that likely cause or at least contribute to obesity, adenoviruses #5, #36, and #37. And possible several more that are more difficult to study. And Firmicutes have also been implicated.

It is not just obesity, lots of conditions have been linked to infections. The Wikipedia page that listed them was removed. Fact is, the big pharmaceutical companies have lost billions when it is discovered that a bacteria causes something they were earning billions to treat. Perhaps you have heard that they discovered that ulcers are caused by a bacteria? That woke up the pharmaceutical industry. That hurt them. Then it was discovered that a bacteria causes lower back pain and damage. After that, amazingly it became very hard to get antibiotics. Doctors are getting in trouble for prescribing antibiotics for anything that is not proven to be caused by bacteria...they don't want another accidental cure. They say it is to stop the development of supper bugs. But most of the antibiotics used in the US are used on millions and millions of animals everyday...just to make them grow faster...nothing to do with illness. If there are super bugs being born that is likely where they are coming from. The reality is that they can develop new antibiotics very easily. They avoid it. And there were things that killed bacteria before antibiotics that still work on "super bugs", but you never hear about them.

The evidence for staph bacteria causing diabetes has not been followed up even though the evidence was more than trivial. They gave staph infections to rabbits and they got diabetes. Coincidence? I doubt it. You can have a staph infection and not even know it. Infections can be invisible.

Most of the chronic conditions we have are because of these infections be they viral, bacterial, fungus or other. Did you know human cytomegalovirus (HCMG) causes more cases of serious birth defects than Down Syndrome, Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, Spina Bifida, or HIV/AIDS? But I bet you have never heard of it. Why? Because the thing is everywhere. They can't isolate the infected from the uninfected. And they don't bother to create a cure because it is likely the condition slowly kills you...very slowly, that means lots of symptoms to treat for decades. 60%-70% of us are infected, and the older you are the more likely that someone will infect you. Hard to separate the affects of old age from the effects of infections the immune system is just loosing the long battle against. HCMG is a herpes virus. They never get eliminated, they just do damage for decades (without vigorous treatment). And it is spreading fast. Rates have gone up dramatically since the 1970s. I don't think it is an accident that Americans' life expectancy is starting to move downward despite really impressive progress against cancer. Doctors know many cancers are caused by viruses. They call them oncoviruses. They currently acknowledge that they cause 17.8% of human cancers, but it probably is a far larger proportion. Perhaps 50% or more. I find it interesting that the success they have had recently is due to revving up the immune system. Coincidence that that might be a way to fight tough viruses in your body? I don't think so.

We are all carrying around dozens of infections. If they do not kill quickly, or produce clear identifiable symptoms, doctors say it is "normal". Well, it isn't. Before people could go all over the planet and things were not spread all over, the average person almost certainly had far fewer infections cruising around in their bodies. I bet you do not even know that sweets do not cause cavities; that it is a bacteria, just one of over 100 types of bacteria in your mouth. And there are tribes who don't have this highly contagious infection. No, it is not "normal" it is an infection that has gone everywhere and infected almost everyone on the planet, but was probably very rare and limited to one small area in the past. But with nothing done about it...its everywhere. Believe it or not, but they have a cure. But so many ridiculous barriers were erected that it never got enough funding to survive the tests. The FDA asked them to do ridiculous things like test only on adults with no teeth. I don't know about you, but if I was down to 2 or 3 teeth I would not give up those last few. Who then would have no teeth? And did you know that tooth problems are linked with heart disease. Those plaques in your arteries are just like that bacterial plaque on your teeth. The bacteria that causes dental carries is a different one than the one that causes gum disease, rots your jaw and infects your arteries and your pancreas.

The biggest impediment to recognizing the cause of disease in our day is the "weakness" stigma. The, "well just control yourself", "use good hygiene"...sort of blame stuff. I think virtually all mental illnesses are caused by infections including anxiety and depression. And much of the rest caused by heavy metals, other toxins and nutritional deficiencies. I believe genetics has been greatly exaggerated...just one more "weakness" story to make others feel superior and invulnerable.

In the Southern US people got the reputation for being lazy. But it was hookworm. Just sucks the energy out of you. Fortunately people finally saw the light and made the changes necessary to infrastructure and cured the infections, and that lousy thing is gone. Still in Africa and other places infecting half a billion people. People who no doubt are still looked down on as lazy, and worthless.

It is entertaining to think it is a conspiracy, that pharmaceutical companies prefer treating chronic people to curing people and obstruct the development of cures. But it probably is not. It is probably just a defect with the way medicine is developed in the US, the economics of it. Turf protection, and barriers to market entry do exist, how much that has played into policy and harmed the pubic is an open question.
 
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DDT was banned in the US the home of widespread obesity nearly 40 years ago. In those days obesity was rare and usually due to gland disorder.

The obesity that you see in the US and Australia are due to fast food, potato chip, corn chips, tacos, burritos, high sugar content cereals, sugared drinks. ben and jerry ice-cream. You can literally see these guys eating these things. When you super size things, there are even more consequences.

You might want to read Rachel Carson's stunning book - Silent Spring on DDT and what it actually causes. All the creatures that were affected by DDT have since recovered after the ban.

Here you go.... apparently the damage done is trans-generational.. just like agent orange..

https://news.wsu.edu/2013/10/22/wsu...-and-obesity-effects-seen-across-generations/


WSU researchers link DDT and obesity across generations

OCTOBER 22, 2013

PULLMAN, Wash. – Washington State University researchers say ancestral exposures to environmental compounds like the insecticide DDT may be a factor in high rates of obesity. The finding comes as DDT is getting a second look as a tool against malaria.

“What your great-grandmother was exposed to during pregnancy, like DDT, may promote a dramatic increase in your susceptibility to obesity, and you will pass this on to your grandchildren in the absence of any continued exposures,” says Michael Skinner, WSU professor and founder of its Center for Reproductive Biology. He and his colleagues document their finding in the current issue of the journal BMC Medicine.


When Skinner and his colleagues exposed gestating rats to DDT, they saw no altered rates of obesity in the parent or first generation of offspring. But the disease developed in more than half the third-generation males and females. The researchers say the insecticide may be affecting how genes are turned on and off in the offspring of an exposed animal, even though its DNA sequences remain unchanged.


This is called transgenerational epigenetic inheritance. In recent years, the Skinner lab has documented epigenetic effects from a host of environmental toxicants, including plastics, pesticides, fungicides, dioxins, hydrocarbons and the plasticizer bisphenol-A or BPA.


However, says Skinner, the frequency of DDT effects on obesity are far greater than other toxicants his lab has reviewed.


He notes that more than 50 years have passed since Rachel Carson’s book “Silent Spring” documented many of DDT’s effects on the environment. Use of DDT has since been banned in the U.S. However, says Skinner, “the third generation of people exposed in the 1950s is now of adult age and has a dramatic increase in diseases such as obesity.”


Meanwhile, he says, groups like the U.S. Agency for International Development and the World Health Organization are backing use of DDT to control malaria in developing countries.


“The potential transgenerational actions of DDT need to be considered in the risk-benefit analysis of its use,” says Skinner.


The full research article may be read HERE.


Contact:

Michael Skinner, professor, Washington State University School of Biological Sciences, 509-335-1524, [email protected]
 

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You might want to read Rachel Carson's stunning book - Silent Spring on DDT and what it actually causes. All the creatures that were affected by DDT have since recovered after the ban.


Many publications have been secretly funded by biochem/pharma/agriculture companies in an effort to whitewash the damage done. These are the big names like Monsanto, 3M, Union carbide etc.. and they'll manufacture and sell fake eggs too if they can get away with it
 
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