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Chitchat China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pants?

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Chinese carrier enters South China Sea amid renewed tension

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A group of Chinese warships led by the country's sole aircraft carrier entered the top half of the South China Sea on Monday after passing south of Taiwan, the self-ruled island's Defense Ministry said of what China has termed a routine exercise.

The move comes amid renewed tension over Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, ineligible for state-to-state relations, following U.S. President-elect Donald Trump's telephone call with the island's president that upset Beijing.

The Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier has taken part in previous exercises, including some in the South China Sea, but China is years away from perfecting carrier operations similar to those the United States has practiced for decades.

Taiwan's Defense Ministry said the carrier, accompanied by five vessels, passed southeast of the Pratas Islands, which are controlled by Taiwan, heading southwest.

The carrier group earlier passed 90 nautical miles south of Taiwan's southernmost point via the Bashi Channel, between Taiwan and the Philippines.

"Staying vigilant and flexible has always been the normal method of maintaining airspace security," said ministry spokesman Chen Chung-chi, declining to say whether Taiwan fighter jets were scrambled or if submarines had been deployed.

Chen said the ministry was continuing to "monitor and grasp the situation".

Senior Taiwan opposition Nationalist lawmaker Johnny Chiang said the Liaoning exercise was China's signal to the United States that it has broken through the "first island chain", an area that includes Japan's Ryukyu Islands and Taiwan.

In Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said people should not read too much into what the carrier was up to, as its movements were within the law.

"Our Liaoning should enjoy in accordance with the law freedom of navigation and overflight as set by international law, and we hope all sides can respect this right of China's," she told a daily news briefing.

Influential state-run Chinese tabloid the Global Times said the exercise showed how the carrier was improving its combat capabilities and that it should now sail even further afield.

"The Chinese fleet will cruise to the Eastern Pacific sooner or later. When China's aircraft carrier fleet appears in offshore areas of the U.S. one day, it will trigger intense thinking about maritime rules," the newspaper said in an editorial.

China has been angered recently by U.S. naval patrols near islands that China claims in the South China Sea. This month, a Chinese navy ship seized a U.S. underwater drone in the South China Sea. China later returned it.

Japan said late on Sunday it had spotted six Chinese naval vessels including the Liaoning traveling through the passage between Miyako and Okinawa and into the Pacific.

Japan's top government spokesman said on Monday the voyage showed China's expanding military capability and Japan was closely monitoring it.

China's air force conducted long-range drills this month above the East and South China Seas that rattled Japan and Taiwan. China said those exercises were also routine.

Last December, the defense ministry confirmed China was building a second aircraft carrier but its launch date is unclear. The aircraft carrier program is a state secret.

Beijing could build multiple aircraft carriers over the next 15 years, the Pentagon said in a report last year.

China claims most of the South China Sea through which about $5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year. Neighbors Brunei, Malaysia, the Philippines, Taiwan and Vietnam also have claims.
 

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Re: China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pan

SGP navy has experience in sinking American aircraft carriers during training with the US Navy!

This one is a sitting duck.
 
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Thick skin Chinks dunno how to paiseh.
Space race behind time almost 60 years.
Now aircraft carrier also behind time almost 90 years! ( US built their first carriers in the 1920s). And this chink one not even self built but soviet built. Chinks really throw face
 

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for show only. can launch a few in several hours and retrieve less than a few in days. after 69 days in operation all aircraft will disappear into ocean. that's not an aircraft carrier. it's an aircraft miscarriage.
 

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Looks luxurious. Chinks sure know how to travel in style. :cool:
 

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Re: China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pan

Thick skin Chinks dunno how to paiseh.
Space race behind time almost 60 years.
Now aircraft carrier also behind time almost 90 years! ( US built their first carriers in the 1920s). And this chink one not even self built but soviet built. Chinks really throw face

They hv 2-3 under construction now, primarily MIC design.each plane hv projected flight of 1500km that put the attack radius to abt 600km.

I should think thw Indian likely to move their vessels towards scs soon. But thats the restriction on the chinese if sinkie n indon do not grant pass n provide logistics they unlikely to project far into indian oceans
 

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Uh aircraft carriers are obsolete...Big fat target...The future is in drones n cruise missiles...Launch a 100 cruise missiles at Taiwan is more effective..N cheaper too
 

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China doesnt need to use military power to bring PAP to its knees.

There are many other effective ways China can compel pap to its knees
 

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China doesnt need to use military power to bring PAP to its knees.

There are many other effective ways China can compel pap to its knees

Ohh we all here didn't know that, thanks.
 

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Abraham Lincoln: Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

Now that China has money $$$$ & power, they are showing their true colors :rolleyes:
 

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What would Trump do when China sinks a US warship?
 

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Re: China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pan

Abraham Lincoln: Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

Now that China has money $$$$ & power, they are showing their true colors :rolleyes:

America is just another version of the British empire, which used their power only for the greater human good such as fighting two Opium Wars only for the most altruistic of purposes - free and open trade ........ pui!

[video=youtube;d-HXB0DQWFE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-HXB0DQWFE&index=1&list=RDd-HXB0DQWFE[/video]
 

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China has never won a single war in its 4,000 years of history. All it has done is engage in border skirmishes with its neighbours. When they attacked Vietnam, they got a bloody nose and retreated. And Deng claimed that they were just teaching Vietnam a lesson for invading Cambodia.

Half the Chinese top brass have kids and families in the US, Uk etc either studying, doing business or on shopping trips. They also have properties in these countries and sanctions are always biting. No self respecting Chinaman is going to give up his family and business interest for the sake of the country. It is not in our DNA.

Look at Taiwan, they had 50 over years to invade the small island which nearly 200 countries including all the western countries recognise as theirs. They never did.
 

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chinese fighting with chinese, what's new? just like in my history book, i learned that patriot Lim Bo Seng was betrayed by his own race during world war 2.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 

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Re: China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pan

China has never won a single war in its 4,000 years of history. All it has done is engage in border skirmishes with its neighbours. When they attacked Vietnam, they got a bloody nose and retreated. And Deng claimed that they were just teaching Vietnam a lesson for invading Cambodia.

Half the Chinese top brass have kids and families in the US, Uk etc either studying, doing business or on shopping trips. They also have properties in these countries and sanctions are always biting. No self respecting Chinaman is going to give up his family and business interest for the sake of the country. It is not in our DNA.

Look at Taiwan, they had 50 over years to invade the small island which nearly 200 countries including all the western countries recognise as theirs. They never did.

The chinks are ball-less cowards. Always have been and always will be.
 

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Re: China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pan

China has never won a single war in its 4,000 years of history. All it has done is engage in border skirmishes with its neighbours. When they attacked Vietnam, they got a bloody nose and retreated. And Deng claimed that they were just teaching Vietnam a lesson for invading Cambodia.

Half the Chinese top brass have kids and families in the US, Uk etc either studying, doing business or on shopping trips. They also have properties in these countries and sanctions are always biting. No self respecting Chinaman is going to give up his family and business interest for the sake of the country. It is not in our DNA.

Look at Taiwan, they had 50 over years to invade the small island which nearly 200 countries including all the western countries recognise as theirs. They never did.

dont worry they will learn modern warfare combat from the russians,after all the russkies won world war ii,also china is already adept at using their own people as cannon fodder anyway so thats one part that the chinese got down pat.
 

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Re: China shows off Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier in SCS! LHL pissing in pan

Abraham Lincoln: Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.

Now that China has money $$$$ & power, they are showing their true colors :rolleyes:

list of invasions,overthrows of governments,non democratic regime changes and spreading of democracy by America since inception.

China 1949 to early 1960s
Albania 1949-53
East Germany 1950s
Iran 1953 *
Guatemala 1954 *
Costa Rica mid-1950s
Syria 1956-7
Egypt 1957
Indonesia 1957-8
British Guiana 1953-64 *
Iraq 1963 *
North Vietnam 1945-73
Cambodia 1955-70 *
Laos 1958 *, 1959 *, 1960 *
Ecuador 1960-63 *
Congo 1960 *
France 1965
Brazil 1962-64 *
Dominican Republic 1963 *
Cuba 1959 to present
Bolivia 1964 *
Indonesia 1965 *
Ghana 1966 *
Chile 1964-73 *
Greece 1967 *
Costa Rica 1970-71
Bolivia 1971 *
Australia 1973-75 *
Angola 1975, 1980s
Zaire 1975
Portugal 1974-76 *
Jamaica 1976-80 *
Seychelles 1979-81
Chad 1981-82 *
Grenada 1983 *
South Yemen 1982-84
Suriname 1982-84
Fiji 1987 *
Libya 1980s
Nicaragua 1981-90 *
Panama 1989 *
Bulgaria 1990 *
Albania 1991 *
Iraq 1991
Afghanistan 1980s *
Somalia 1993
Yugoslavia 1999-2000 *
Ecuador 2000 *
Afghanistan 2001 * V
enezuela 2002 *
Iraq 2003 *
Haiti 2004 *
Somalia 2007 to present
Honduras 2009
Libya 2011*
Syria 2012

1950s - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of more than 200 political figures in West Germany to be “put out of the way” in the event of a Soviet invasion 1950s - Chou En-lai, Prime minister of China, several attempts on his life 1950s, 1962 - Sukarno, President of Indonesia 1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premier of North Korea 1953 - Mohammed Mossadegh, Prime Minister of Iran 1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader 1955 - Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India 1957 - Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt 1959, 1963, 1969 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia 1960 - Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Kassem, leader of Iraq 1950s-70s - José Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life 1961 - Francois “Papa Doc” Duvalier, leader of Haiti 1961 - Patrice Lumumba, Prime Minister of the Congo (Zaire) 1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic 1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam 1960s-70s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, many attempts on his life 1960s - Raúl Castro, high official in government of Cuba 1965 - Francisco Caamaño, Dominican Republic opposition leader 1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France 1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader 1970 - Salvador Allende, President of Chile 1970 - Gen. Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile 1970s, 1981 - General Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama 1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence 1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire 1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica 1980-1986 - Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya, several plots and attempts upon his life 1982 - Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of Iran 1983 - Gen. Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan Army commander 1983 - Miguel d’Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua 1984 - The nine comandantes of the Sandinista National Directorate 1985 - Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanese Shiite leader (80 people killed in the attempt) 1991 - Saddam Hussein, leader of Iraq 1993 - Mohamed Farah Aideed, prominent clan leader of Somalia 1998, 2001-2 - Osama bin Laden, leading Islamic militant 1999 - Slobodan Milosevic, President of Yugoslavia 2002 - Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Afghan Islamic leader and warlord 2003 - Saddam Hussein and his two sons 2011 - Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya
 

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China has never won a single war in its 4,000 years of history. All it has done is engage in border skirmishes with its neighbours. When they attacked Vietnam, they got a bloody nose and retreated. And Deng claimed that they were just teaching Vietnam a lesson for invading Cambodia.

You obviously have no knowledge of how the Han, Tang and Ming dynasties expanded their borders. Even in the well-known Three Kingdoms era, the state of Shu conquered the southern barbarians. Perhaps what you meant was China has never conquered a larger enemy. But for over 2000 years, China was the largest country in the region with no other comparable countries. The desire to gain more territories will not be as strong as those that are in greater need of more land.

But hey, let's not let facts get in the way when pushing agenda. Let's pretend that the Chinese got all these unpopulated lands without a single skirmish before the Han dynasty.

I am glad we have people like you educating the ignorant with false information so that they are now at least misinformed.
 

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Back to border skirmishes arguments. What country did China invade using their military might and strategy - Tibet!! Ever heard of Kublai Khan? The most impressive Chinese battle formation which the whole world will agree is the Terracott Army - 8,000 warriors, 130 chariots, hundreds of horses. As thy say - no horse run. The other impressive Military contribution to the World is the Sun Tzu.

These are similar to arguments you hear from Indians on how they are running America Corporations.


You obviously have no knowledge of how the Han, Tang and Ming dynasties expanded their borders. Even in the well-known Three Kingdoms era, the state of Shu conquered the southern barbarians. Perhaps what you meant was China has never conquered a larger enemy. But for over 2000 years, China was the largest country in the region with no other comparable countries. The desire to gain more territories will not be as strong as those that are in greater need of more land.

But hey, let's not let facts get in the way when pushing agenda. Let's pretend that the Chinese got all these unpopulated lands without a single skirmish before the Han dynasty.

I am glad we have people like you educating the ignorant with false information so that they are now at least misinformed.
 

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Shu did not conquer southern barbarians. In fact it was forced into the kunming region by her enemies n liu bei sought the difficult terrain for protection against larger troops led by caocao whp owns more futile plains. The southern enemies were in fact vietnamese n laotians who has collaborated with caocao forces to try to annex kunming region. The poorer region did not offer much resources nor manpower to boost an aging liu bei n zhuge kong ming. For the latter a genius with a bad deck of cards. Shu were eventually worn down n liu bei's sons annihilated.
 
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