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Chitchat Very Strange that PAP Supports Foreign Talent but High Court Rejects Queen Counsel FT

gingerlyn

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Dear brothers and sisters

it is strange that PAP sings Foreign Talent songs but our High Court strictly bar Queen Counsel in Singapore.

Why ah? why PAP one sided rule only ah? allow Foreign Talents but ban QC? what is there to scare?

The High Court has clarified that a Queen's Counsel will be admitted here only when needed to argue complex cases beyond the competence of local lawyers.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/court-rejects-bid-for-queens-counsel
 

ckmpd

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SG Judiciary is afraid of Queens Counsel
 

gingerlyn

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Re: Very Strange that PAP Supports Foreign Talent but High Court Rejects Queen Counse

I want to know why PAP rule is not consistent?
Foreign Talents are ok but Queen Counsel not ok?
 

ckmpd

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I want to know why PAP rule is not consistent?
Foreign Talents are ok but Queen Counsel not ok?

Foreign trash is scared of pap. PAP is scared of Queens Counsel. That's the big difference
 

parrardee

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Foreign trash is scared of pap. PAP is scared of Queens Counsel. That's the big difference

Oh I see, so which member of our judiciary shared this gem with you that you can be so CERTAIN your answer is correct.
 

Bonut

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SG Judiciary is afraid of Queens Counsel

There is a genuine fear that the judiciary may not understand the ingenious legal arguments propounded by the Queen's Counsels. In other words, the Queen's Counsels will make the complex case even more complex with even more profound arguments.
 

Bonut

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I want to know why PAP rule is not consistent?
Foreign Talents are ok but Queen Counsel not ok?

Because Queen's Counsels offer nothing to help depress the wages of lawyers in Singapore. That, essentially, is the definition of foreign talents.
 

Bigfuck

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You want the the six faced snake to look like a bloody fool?
 

virus

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queens' counsel r thieves and rapists. we need to send them back and build a wall to prevent them from coming in and I will make sure the queen pays for it.
 

dr.wailing

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"Court rejects bid for Queen's Counsel"
The Straits Times, December 12, 2016
page B6

K.C.Vijayan
Senior Law Correspondent


The High Court has clarified that a Queen's Counsel will be admitted here only when needed to argue complex cases beyond the competence o f local lawyers.

The court overruled the bid by law firm Rajah & Tann to bring in high-profile London-based Queen's Counsel Toby Landau to argue a judicial review of a US$129 million (S$185 million) arbitration award.

"The fact that foreign counsel would do 'an even better job' than local counsel does not really address the question of necessity," said Justice Steven Chong in judgment grounds issued last month.

The judge noted that China Machine New Energy Corporation (CMNC), the company that sought the QC, had hired leading local firm Rajah &Tann Singapore for the case, which has "five senior counsel within its ranks, each with an impressive track record in arbitration".

Justice Chong added that he was not prepared to assume that there was only a small pool of local lawyers who could act in the case to justify the need for a QC.

The High Court here has the discretion to admit QCs or their equivalent to argue cases on an ad hoc basis after assessing the complexity of the issues involved in the case, the QC's expertise, necessity and the availability of local counsel with the requisite experiences, among other things.

In the case, CMNC had lost a deal against Jaguar Energy Guatemala last year that was settled by an arbitration panel here which awarded Jaguar more than US$129 million for CMNC's breaches of contract.

The US-based Jaguar had contracted for CMNC in 2008 to build a power generation plant in Guatemala for US$450 million which subsequently derailed and led to arbitration.

CMNC then applied to the High Court for a review to set aside the award and sought Mr Landau to be admitted to argue its case.

All parties including the Attorney-General and the Law Society agreed that Mr Landau possessed wide-ranging experience in arbitration and the requisite expertise to address the issues identified in the case.

The Attorney-General supported the move, while the Law Society objected to the admission.

But Justice Chong made clear that although the court hearing the case would certainly benefit from having Mr Landau's "formidablywide-ranging experience, it does not follow there is a need to admit him".

He found nothing "exceptional" about the case and the issues involved were not "unduly novel or complex" or beyond the "range of competence" of local lawyers.

Law firm Morgan Lewis Stamford, which represented Jaguar in the proceedings, said the judgment among other things recognises "that the local Bar has the experience and expertise to represent parties in litigation ancillary to international arbitration proceedings".

Separately, Morgan Lewis lawyers Timothy Cooke and Daniel Chia said on its "Lawflash" online that the judgment "reaffirmed Singapore's status as a leading international arbitration hub".

They added: "Parties who wish to engage foreign counsel for Singapore court proceedings may want to consider including a clause in their contract specifying the Singapore International Commercial Court (SICC) as the forum for resolving disputes; in certain defined circumstances, matters heard in the SICC maybe argued by foreign counsel".
 

Sainttan

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Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.
 

frenchbriefs

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theres no need to listen to the highest experts as long as u have PAP experts around to tell u what to do.
 

winnipegjets

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Queen's Counsels will make our judges and Senior Counsel look like idiots. Sinkee elites like to think that they are the best and they will not allow any foreigner come here to make fools of them.
 

borom

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WP with many lawyers in its ranks again very silent-what's the point of parliamentary immunity if you don't speak up?
 

JohnTan

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Re: Very Strange that PAP Supports Foreign Talent but High Court Rejects Queen Counse

Dear brothers and sisters

it is strange that PAP sings Foreign Talent songs but our High Court strictly bar Queen Counsel in Singapore.

Why ah? why PAP one sided rule only ah? allow Foreign Talents but ban QC? what is there to scare?

The High Court has clarified that a Queen's Counsel will be admitted here only when needed to argue complex cases beyond the competence of local lawyers.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/court-rejects-bid-for-queens-counsel

I should recommend them a pinoy lawyer. Jose is cheap, good and fast. And he will get the job done for 30% of a regular sinkie lawyer's fees.
 

Bonut

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WP with many lawyers in its ranks again very silent-what's the point of parliamentary immunity if you don't speak up?

They are sticking to their role as the Whisper Party.
 
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