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Chitchat Russian Aircraft Carrier losing jets to accidents, Putin still dare to fight US?

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[h=1]Russian jets keep crashing — and it may be an aircraft carrier’s fault[/h]

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MOSCOW — The second crash of a Russian warplane off the coast of Syria in less than a month intensified scrutiny Monday of a critical weakness in Moscow’s show of naval force in the Mediterranean and the 1,000-foot hulk leading it. The Admiral Kuznetsov, Russia’s sole, aging aircraft carrier, made a very public entry into the Syrian conflict when it steamed through the English Channel in October. But analysts say it is not suited to the task of providing ground support in a protracted conflict.
Nor is it suited for the job President Vladi*mir Putin intended when he ordered the ship into the Mediterranean: to project Russian naval power.
“The Admiral Kuznetsov was not designed for such tasks,” Alexander Golts, a military writer for the independent Moscow-based news journal New Times, said in an interview. “It’s a very old ship with very old technologies. It is not prepared for intensive flights.”
Golts spoke after Russia’s Defense Ministry announced Monday that an Su-33 Flanker returning from a combat mission plunged into the Mediterranean as it tried toland on the Kuznetsov. The accident occurred when an arresting cable on the aircraft carrier snapped during the landing, the ministry said in a statement. The pilot ejected and was saved by a search-and-rescue team, the statement added. He was not injured.
Last month, a Russian MiG-29K fighter jet crashed while attempting an emergency landing on the aircraft carrier shortly after takeoff. The Syrian conflict is the first combat deployment for the Admiral Kuznetsov, which has a history of onboard accidents during training missions since being launched in 1985.
Unlike modern aircraft carriers, the Kuznetsov does not have a catapult system, and the jets it carries must launch off a ramp, which makes the job of takeoff and landing extremely challenging.
“We have a very limited number of pilots who can fulfill this task,” Golts said. “I doubt there are many in the world.”
The Kuznetsov’s design also limits the load of fuel and weapons that its jets can carry, which was not a serious impediment for its intended purpose: to defend Soviet submarines preparing to launch nuclear weapons.
“This carrier was never designed for projecting power on shore,” said Pavel K. Baev, who studies Russian military reform at the Peace Research Institute Oslo. “The fact of the military matter is that this deployment adds nothing, just absolutely nothing to the capabilities” that Russia has on the ground in Syria.
When the Kuznetsov set sail, state media said the expedition demonstrated Russia’s independence as a regional power. But by mid-November, military analysts were questioning the ship’s suitability for the task.
“The intermediate results produced by the Admiral Kuznetsov’s carrier air wing have been not what the top brass expected,” military analyst Sergei Ishchenko wrote in the Svobodnaya Pressa online news agency a week after the carrier launched its first attacks in Syria. For one thing, the “Su-33 is an air superiority fighter designed to provide air defense to friendly naval forces far away from home shores,” not attack ground targets.
The MiG-29K is a multi-role fighter capable of attacking targets in the air and on the ground, and it is a newer, carrier-based variant of the traditional MiG-29, but Ischenko said the jets were grounded, at least for a while, after one of them crashed, leaving the Su-33s to shoulder the burden.
Asked about the latest crash on Monday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said only that the important thing is that the pilot was not injured.
“This is a very intense, hard, heroic job,” the news agency Interfax quoted Peskov as saying.
Translation: Don’t look for Moscow to order the Kuznetsov to set sail for home anytime soon.
“One lost plane was not enough for exposing the absurdity of this demonstration of nonexistent force,” Baev said. “And two may be not quite enough, either.”
 

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sorry i believe my pokemon ball hit it, i tot it was aerodactyl.. it certainly look ancient and greyish.
 

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Your broken logics is based on rubbish Western values. You have no idea what is War and Resolve. Lost men and weapons are NO DETERRENT AT ALL. Want war and need war means have to pay price. Enemies have to die and so are your own forces. Bravely ACCEPT this. Fight on and Slaughter on. Don't let these pains stop you. Bleeding still fight. Lost limbs still fight. Dying still fight. That is business!
 
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Junk Peasants in this world cowards can not fight, cling on others to survive, like parasites, want to enjoy FOC survival Squander Away planet earth's resources. Feels insecure, and masturbate their incontinence by self-deception, to false believe that Wars won't be happening.
So priority of war s to rid these Selfish Useless Cowards!

If we continued to let the Vital Mechanism of ELIMINATION Fail further, and let billions of these Coward Junk Peasants CLING ON To Live, and Squandered away remaining vital resources, man will only vanish in TOTAL EXTINCTION, as the Global Resources EXHAUSTED.

 
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u mean if putin and trump are best friends,the one in trouble is america.

No, it's Xi Jinping. Putin doesn't really trust the commie chinks who are encroaching into Siberia and who will want to take back Outer Manchuria from Russia when the time is ripe. Taking back Outer Manchuria will give the commie chinks strategic access to the Sea of Japan.
 

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No, it's Xi Jinping. Putin doesn't really trust the commie chinks who are encroaching into Siberia and who will want to take back Outer Manchuria from Russia when the time is ripe. Taking back Outer Manchuria will give the commie chinks strategic access to the Sea of Japan.

You have no idea about Putin. He got long membership with Communist Party and joined Communist even Before Xijinping. He was Soviet KGB spy head. You Gong Kia.

Putin's enemy #1 is USA not only for NATO rival Russia, but also old blood died of USA screwed up Putin's motherland USSR. Losing much territories like Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Georgia etc dozen. Also causing Warsaw Pack allies like Romania Hungria etc to defect and betray Moscow etc.

Putin will take back USSR power from USA regardless weather Trump or Clinton bitch in power, it is collapsed Superpower, alike ex-USSR. PRC similarly will reunficate Taiwan at the same time.

Moscow and Beijing have comon interest and Comon enemy = Washington.
 
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