Chitchat PAP Breaks Legs

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

1. 4 Rm BTO HDB flats start from $497k
2. Medishield Life Premium starts from $130 per year for 1year old child to $1500 for a 86 yr old Singaporean
3. Water Conservation Tax of 30%
4. Waterborne fee
5. Sanitary Appliance fee
6. Electricity at 19.27c per KW
7. Depressed wages for Singapore workers

PAP is breaking Singaporeans' legs and then pretend to give them crutches. A Singaporean with broken legs is not the same anymore. Why does pap need to tax Singaporeans so much with hidden taxes, levies, etc?

nayr69sg · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
Why does pap need to tax Singaporeans so much with hidden taxes, levies, etc?

Because that is what Singaporeans want. Year after year after year they tell the PAP that's what they want more of.

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

nayr69sg said:
Because that is what Singaporeans want. Year after year after year they tell the PAP that's what they want more of.

All these taxes and levies are not so transparent and clear to the average Singaporean and new citizens. A good and responsible Govt will not want to break legs nor need to break legs to remain in power. A good and responsible govt will not need to force Singaporeans to be so poor that they have to depend on crutches.

A good govt will not need to hide taxes and levies such as waterborne fees, water conservation tax, sanitary appliance fee.

On top of that, the pap charges 7% GST on these hidden taxes and levies. Is this morally correct and fair to poor Singaporeans?

JohnTan · Nov 25, 2016

You need to thank Obama for Medishield Life. I understand that our medishield life was inspired by his Obamacare.

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

JohnTan said:
You need to thank Obama for Medishield Life. I understand that our medishield life was inspired by his Obamacare.

Yes, PAP copied from ObamaCare. Obamacare was a factor that helped Trump to win the election. Obama is a failure and is likely to be repealed or replaced in 2017.

PAP copies without looking at the bad effects of Obamacare. Does pap have the wisdom and courage to admit than a life long premium of abt $1000k a month is unaffordable to the average Singaporean? Many Singaporeans see the problem with Medishield Life

JohnTan · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
Yes, PAP copied from ObamaCare. Obamacare was a factor that helped Trump to win the election. Obama is a failure and is likely to be repealed or replaced in 2017.

PAP copies without looking at the bad effects of Obamacare. Does pap have the wisdom and courage to admit than a life long premium of abt $1000k a month is unaffordable to the average Singaporean? Many Singaporeans see the problem with Medishield Life

I would like to think that Obamacare is a good idea but isn't as well thought out as our PAPcare.

Under Obamacare, it isn't compulsory for the healthy to buy insurance and many don't. It's cheaper to pay the penalty to skip Obamacare altogether. This partly explains why insurance costs in US rockets up each year.

In Singapore, particpation in medishield life is compulsory, even if you are an insurance-dodger residing overseas. You don't get to pay a cheap fine and stay off the insurance grid.

red amoeba · Nov 25, 2016

MediShield life is a savior n one of the best thing PAP has done. Otherwise those with pre illness / medical conditions will be deprived of insurance and would have no cover.

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

JohnTan said:
I would like to think that Obamacare is a good idea but isn't as well thought out as our PAPcare.

Under Obamacare, it isn't compulsory for the healthy to buy insurance and many don't. It's cheaper to pay the penalty to skip Obamacare altogether. This partly explains why insurance costs in US rockets up each year.

In Singapore, particpation in medishield life is compulsory, even if you are an insurance-dodger residing overseas. You don't get to pay a cheap fine and stay off the insurance grid.

A compulsory life time premium of $130 from birth, increasing steadily to $1500 at 86 years old is seriously flawed. You dont need to be a Chartered Accountant and well educated to see that such a compulsory insurance policy id doomed to fail.

I bet pap will have to swallow its words and modify the scheme.

PAP has failed badly with its many policies. They are not thorough nor incisive when they consider their policies. A good example is the Population White Paper when the DPM and PM endorsed and cleared a Parliamentary paper which states that nursing is a low skilled profession. Such fundamentally flawed paper wld never have passed through GKS nor LKY. They wld have skewed alive the staff, dept and ministry which formulated that paper. GKS and LKY excelled in their decision making and intellect that they struck fear in the Civil Servants

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

red amoeba said:
MediShield life is a savior n one of the best thing PAP has done. Otherwise those with pre illness / medical conditions will be deprived of insurance and would have no cover.

That's what PAP said. Let's wait and see how many singaporeans will go to prison for not able to pay their premiums. PAP threatened through Gan Kim Yong that those who cant pay premiums risk jail. Taking on pap's threat, many Singaporeans have advised the pap to build more Changi Hilton to accommodate these Singaporeans who cant afford to pay Medishield premium. Let us see whether pap dares to jail those who cant pay

Bigfuck · Nov 25, 2016

You pay 70K in your lifetime. Not a bad idea. Some people pay more than that to keng for MCs in a lifetime.

The problem is the high property prices. It can collapse and then all die. It does not much for China and foreign influences to fuck the property market bad.

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

JohnTan said:
I would like to think that Obamacare is a good idea but isn't as well thought out as our PAPcare.

Under Obamacare, it isn't compulsory for the healthy to buy insurance and many don't. It's cheaper to pay the penalty to skip Obamacare altogether. This partly explains why insurance costs in US rockets up each year.

In Singapore, particpation in medishield life is compulsory, even if you are an insurance-dodger residing overseas. You don't get to pay a cheap fine and stay off the insurance grid.

There are so many poor singaporeans who have to live and sleep in public areas. I advise such Singaporeans to commit petty thefts so that they can be jailed and get free board and lodging and get free medical care without having to pay medishield premiums

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

Bigfuck said:
You pay 70K in your lifetime. Not a bad idea. Some people pay more than that to keng for MCs in a lifetime.

The problem is the high property prices. It can collapse and then all die. It does not much for China and foreign influences to fuck the property market bad.

Take all the bad pap schemes and add them up. You will see that most Singaporeans will ahve to break a leg to survive in high cost Singapore due to pap's bad policies

johnny333 · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
....many Singaporeans have advised the pap to build more Changi Hilton to accommodate these Singaporeans who cant afford to pay Medishield premium. Let us see whether pap dares to jail those who cant pay

Looks like the prisons will be the retirement home of the future & not Batam or JB.

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

johnny333 said:
Looks like the prisons will be the retirement home of the future & not Batam or JB.

Yes. Frankly, if I were aged and poor, I wld "force" the pap to give me free board and lodging as that's my "entitlement" after paying so much to the pap htroughout my life.

pap is killing SG because in future most singaporeans will be so poor when they are 65 that they need crutches in high cost SG

Leongsam · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
Yes. Frankly, if I were aged and poor, I wld "force" the pap to give me free board and lodging as that's my "entitlement" after paying so much to the pap htroughout my life.

pap is killing SG because in future most singaporeans will be so poor when they are 65 that they need crutches in high cost SG

Singaporeans are the richest in Asia and the 7th richest in the whole wide world. This proves just what a fantastic job the PAP is doing for the country.

http://themiddleground.sg/2016/11/23/yay-richest-asia-average/

THE average wealth of Singaporeans is the highest in Asia, says a new annual wealth report. The Credit Suisse Research Institute found that the wealth per adult here rose 1.4 per cent over the past year, led mainly by high savings, asset price increases, and favourable exchange rates.

The average figure, about US$270,000 ($395,000), is the highest in Asia, and seventh among the rest of the world. Taking the top spot was Switzerland (US$562,000), followed by Australia (US$376,000) and the United States (US$345,000).

Notably, financial assets made up more than half of a person’s wealth here – about 54 per cent. Average debt was about US$55,000, or 17 per cent of total assets.

If this doesn’t quite mirror your own financial situation, that’s probably because of “moderately unequal” wealth distribution – though, only 18 per cent of people here have wealth under US$10,000. That’s compared to the global figure of 73 per cent, said the report.

Singapore is still a magnet for the rich and ultra-rich. The number of people with wealth above US$100,000 is six times the world average. And about 5 per cent of adults here are in the top 1 per cent of global wealth holders – an unusually high number considering the country is home to only 0.1 per cent of the world’s adult population.
This year, there were 150,000 millionaires in Singapore, with a total wealth value of US$541 billion.

Singapore also came up tops in another study that looked at how countries fared in embracing digital disruptions. Called the Asian Digital Transformation Index, the study was conducted by the Economist Intelligence Unit and launched for the first time yesterday (Nov 22).

Praised for its infrastructure-related indicators, the Republic came in first ahead of South Korea, Japan, and Hong Kong. However, it lagged behind these economies when it came to getting the elderly, disabled and needy to use the Internet.

What about globally connectivity? There’s a survey for that, too.

Singapore was ranked second worldwide after the Netherlands in the DHL Global Connectedness Index (GCI), which measures connectivity based on cross-border flows of trade, capital, information and people – or what the study calls “international interactions”.

The GCI also launched two new city indices yesterday: a Globalisation Giants index, which looks at the volume of a country’s international interactions; and a Globalisation Hotspots index, which measures its intensity. In both these indices, Singapore came in first.

Featured image from TMG file.

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

johnny333 said:
Looks like the prisons will be the retirement home of the future & not Batam or JB.

"A 40-year-old man is sentenced to a year's jail for stealing S$30 from a donation box at a mosque to buy food for his mum

SINGAPORE - A 40-year-old man was sentenced to a year's jail today for stealing S$32. Noraizam Abdullah, who has a handicapped mother, admitted to stealing the money from a donation box in a mosque to buy food for his family. The court was told that the donation box at the entrance of the Darussalam Mosque at Commonwealth Avenue West was found missing on Dec 11 last year. Police investigations showed that a woman had earlier spotted Noraizam moving the donation box to the second floor. When questioned, Noraizam told her he was just following instructions but this was later found to be false, by which time Noraizam had left the mosque. A check found the padlock on the box tampered with and S$32 cash missing. Investigations revealed Noraizam had used his lighter to break the padlock at a staircase landing in the mosque. Noraizam, who has a string of previous theft offences, ...

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
"A 40-year-old man is sentenced to a year's jail for stealing S$30 from a donation box at a mosque to buy food for his mum

SINGAPORE - A 40-year-old man was sentenced to a year's jail today for stealing S$32. Noraizam Abdullah, who has a handicapped mother, admitted to stealing the money from a donation box in a mosque to buy food for his family. The court was told that the donation box at the entrance of the Darussalam Mosque at Commonwealth Avenue West was found missing on Dec 11 last year. Police investigations showed that a woman had earlier spotted Noraizam moving the donation box to the second floor. When questioned, Noraizam told her he was just following instructions but this was later found to be false, by which time Noraizam had left the mosque. A check found the padlock on the box tampered with and S$32 cash missing. Investigations revealed Noraizam had used his lighter to break the padlock at a staircase landing in the mosque. Noraizam, who has a string of previous theft offences, ...

It is easy to get 12 months of free food, lodging and medical care. Just commit petty crime of $32.

With such justice, I want to see how pap is gg to house and fund more such desperate "criminals"

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

Leongsam said:
Singaporeans are the richest in Asia and the 7th richest in the whole wide world. This proves just what a fantastic job the PAP is doing for the country.

http://themiddleground.sg/2016/11/23/yay-richest-asia-average/

THE average wealth of Singaporeans is the highest in Asia, says a new annual wealth report. The Credit Suisse Research Institute found that the wealth per adult here rose 1.4 per cent over the past year, led mainly by high savings, asset price increases, and favourable exchange rates.

The average figure, about US$270,000 ($395,000), is the highest in Asia, and seventh among the rest of the world. Taking the top spot was Switzerland (US$562,000), followed by Australia (US$376,000) and the United States (US$345,000).

Notably, financial assets made up more than half of a person’s wealth here – about 54 per cent. Average debt was about US$55,000, or 17 per cent of total assets.

If this doesn’t quite mirror your own financial situation, that’s probably because of “moderately unequal” wealth distribution – though, only 18 per cent of people here have wealth under US$10,000. That’s compared to the global figure of 73 per cent, said the report.

Singapore is still a magnet for the rich and ultra-rich. The number of people with wealth above US$100,000 is six times the world average. And about 5 per cent of adults here are in the top 1 per cent of global wealth holders – an unusually high number considering the country is home to only 0.1 per cent of the world’s adult population.
This year, there were 150,000 millionaires in Singapore, with a total wealth value of US$541 billion.

Singapore also came up tops in another study that looked at how countries fared in embracing digital disruptions. Called the Asian Digital Transformation Index, the study was conducted by the Economist Intelligence Unit and launched for the first time yesterday (Nov 22).

Praised for its infrastructure-related indicators, the Republic came in first ahead of South Korea, Japan, and Hong Kong. However, it lagged behind these economies when it came to getting the elderly, disabled and needy to use the Internet.

What about globally connectivity? There’s a survey for that, too.

Singapore was ranked second worldwide after the Netherlands in the DHL Global Connectedness Index (GCI), which measures connectivity based on cross-border flows of trade, capital, information and people – or what the study calls “international interactions”.

The GCI also launched two new city indices yesterday: a Globalisation Giants index, which looks at the volume of a country’s international interactions; and a Globalisation Hotspots index, which measures its intensity. In both these indices, Singapore came in first.

Featured image from TMG file.

Yes, the pap continues to believe that Singaporeans are wealthy and the pap can continue to levy high taxes and levies

ckmpd · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
"A 40-year-old man is sentenced to a year's jail for stealing S$30 from a donation box at a mosque to buy food for his mum

SINGAPORE - A 40-year-old man was sentenced to a year's jail today for stealing S$32. Noraizam Abdullah, who has a handicapped mother, admitted to stealing the money from a donation box in a mosque to buy food for his family. The court was told that the donation box at the entrance of the Darussalam Mosque at Commonwealth Avenue West was found missing on Dec 11 last year. Police investigations showed that a woman had earlier spotted Noraizam moving the donation box to the second floor. When questioned, Noraizam told her he was just following instructions but this was later found to be false, by which time Noraizam had left the mosque. A check found the padlock on the box tampered with and S$32 cash missing. Investigations revealed Noraizam had used his lighter to break the padlock at a staircase landing in the mosque. Noraizam, who has a string of previous theft offences, ...

Is it better for the law to temper justice with compassion?

This is a good example of pap's flawed rule by law

parrardee · Nov 25, 2016

ckmpd said:
"A 40-year-old man is sentenced to a year's jail for stealing S$30 from a donation box at a mosque to buy food for his mum

SINGAPORE - A 40-year-old man was sentenced to a year's jail today for stealing S$32. Noraizam Abdullah, who has a handicapped mother, admitted to stealing the money from a donation box in a mosque to buy food for his family. The court was told that the donation box at the entrance of the Darussalam Mosque at Commonwealth Avenue West was found missing on Dec 11 last year. Police investigations showed that a woman had earlier spotted Noraizam moving the donation box to the second floor. When questioned, Noraizam told her he was just following instructions but this was later found to be false, by which time Noraizam had left the mosque. A check found the padlock on the box tampered with and S$32 cash missing. Investigations revealed Noraizam had used his lighter to break the padlock at a staircase landing in the mosque. Noraizam, who has a string of previous theft offences, ...

This person should firstly give up his handphones and stop smoking after which he should curb his criminal instincts. He steals not out of desperate need but out of habit. No PAP policy however benign can help such people.

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