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Chitchat Trump can now loot millions of dollars from the Secret Service with no disclosure

winnipegjets

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Trump can now loot millions of dollars from the Secret Service with no disclosure
It’s thanks to the plane, oddly.
Matthew Yglesias
5 Hours Ago

When he's president, Donald Trump will fly on Air Force One. Which means the Boeing 757 that Trump owns through a holding company will be free for use by Ivanka, Melania, Eric, Donald Jr., or whomever else. And if Trump requests Secret Service protection for those people, he will probably get it. And when Secret Service agents fly alongside a protectee, they use their budget to pay airfare. Which in the case of a flight on the Trump jet would mean paying Trump for the seats on his plane.

In other words, by asking for Secret Service protection for family members who fly on his plane, Donald Trump can directly funnel taxpayer money into his own pocket.

For any of the Trump or Pence clans assigned a protective detail due to safety risks— and the rancor of the 2016 vote could well produce many — Secret Service travel on a Trump-owned plane means the agency would need to reimburse the aircraft's owner. In this case, the president.

"So then you have government money going into the pockets of the president and his children," said Brett Kappel, a lawyer who specializes in political finance and ethics at Akerman LLP. The Trump transition team did not respond to email requests seeking comment. The Trump family has also hired private security guards, although it is unclear how Trump's election will affect the extent of private security used. The Secret Service has assumed full authority for protecting the president-elect and vice-president elect, including a new no-fly zone the Federal Aviation Administration has established until Jan. 21 over Trump's Manhattan residence.

Now, you might be saying to yourself that this is ridiculous and no public official would be so reckless with his political standing as to loot the Treasury in this manner.

But this is exactly what Trump did during the campaign, billing the federal government $6 million for granting Secret Service agents the right to fly on his plane. The reason we know that is because it was a political campaign, so all the financial details were filed with the Federal Election Commission. With the campaign over, however, the plane just becomes part of Trump's opaque web of privately held companies, so the amount of money he is funneling from the federal government into his pocket won't be disclosed on that end.

And as Bachman explains, "Security travel costs for an elected official, visiting dignitary or other protectee are part of [the Secret Service's] normal operating budget and not subject to disclosure."

So Trump personally pocketed $6 million in taxpayer cash in plain sight in the middle of a hotly contested presidential campaign. And not only did he win the election, he won the election by painting his opponent as corrupt. Now he will have the opportunity to rake in an unknown sum of additional money through the exact same route with no disclosure whatsoever.

What's your level of confidence that he'll decide not to bother doing it?
 

Leongsam

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What Trump pockets will be peanuts compared to what the Clintons have been looting over the years.

Trump owns the plane so he has a right to charge passengers for the ride. If they happen to be federal agents then federal funds are used. It would be the same if the agents took any other airline.
 

roastgoose

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Trump can now loot millions of dollars from the Secret Service with no disclosure
It’s thanks to the plane, oddly.
Matthew Yglesias
5 Hours Ago

When he's president, Donald Trump will fly on Air Force One. Which means the Boeing 757 that Trump owns through a holding company will be free for use by Ivanka, Melania, Eric, Donald Jr., or whomever else. And if Trump requests Secret Service protection for those people, he will probably get it. And when Secret Service agents fly alongside a protectee, they use their budget to pay airfare. Which in the case of a flight on the Trump jet would mean paying Trump for the seats on his plane.

In other words, by asking for Secret Service protection for family members who fly on his plane, Donald Trump can directly funnel taxpayer money into his own pocket.

For any of the Trump or Pence clans assigned a protective detail due to safety risks— and the rancor of the 2016 vote could well produce many — Secret Service travel on a Trump-owned plane means the agency would need to reimburse the aircraft's owner. In this case, the president.

"So then you have government money going into the pockets of the president and his children," said Brett Kappel, a lawyer who specializes in political finance and ethics at Akerman LLP. The Trump transition team did not respond to email requests seeking comment. The Trump family has also hired private security guards, although it is unclear how Trump's election will affect the extent of private security used. The Secret Service has assumed full authority for protecting the president-elect and vice-president elect, including a new no-fly zone the Federal Aviation Administration has established until Jan. 21 over Trump's Manhattan residence.

Now, you might be saying to yourself that this is ridiculous and no public official would be so reckless with his political standing as to loot the Treasury in this manner.

But this is exactly what Trump did during the campaign, billing the federal government $6 million for granting Secret Service agents the right to fly on his plane. The reason we know that is because it was a political campaign, so all the financial details were filed with the Federal Election Commission. With the campaign over, however, the plane just becomes part of Trump's opaque web of privately held companies, so the amount of money he is funneling from the federal government into his pocket won't be disclosed on that end.

And as Bachman explains, "Security travel costs for an elected official, visiting dignitary or other protectee are part of [the Secret Service's] normal operating budget and not subject to disclosure."

So Trump personally pocketed $6 million in taxpayer cash in plain sight in the middle of a hotly contested presidential campaign. And not only did he win the election, he won the election by painting his opponent as corrupt. Now he will have the opportunity to rake in an unknown sum of additional money through the exact same route with no disclosure whatsoever.

What's your level of confidence that he'll decide not to bother doing it?

You are a damn sore loser. I dont think anyone here would have bitched so much had Clinton won. Why dont you bring your whining, crying and mourning elsewhere.
 

Leongsam

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You are a damn sore loser. I dont think anyone here would have bitched so much had Clinton won. Why dont you bring your whining, crying and mourning elsewhere.

The lefties are like that. They preach fair play and respect but show neither when they lose.
 

winnipegjets

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What Trump pockets will be peanuts compared to what the Clintons have been looting over the years.

Trump owns the plane so he has a right to charge passengers for the ride. If they happen to be federal agents then federal funds are used. It would be the same if the agents took any other airline.

$6 million for airfares? Bannon really bought this site? If you tell me this is the new alt-right site, I quit.
 

winnipegjets

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The lefties are like that. They preach fair play and respect but show neither when they lose.

Look at how the right-wingers have bitched for eight years. Even your hero, Trump, held on to the lie that Obama was not born in USA for eight years! So, don't preach about fair play and respect when the bigger devil is you and your bunch of deplorables.
 

winnipegjets

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You are a damn sore loser. I dont think anyone here would have bitched so much had Clinton won. Why dont you bring your whining, crying and mourning elsewhere.

You can't handle the truth? When he can make millions undiscovered, why would he want the peanuts from the presidential salary?
 

frenchbriefs

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What Trump pockets will be peanuts compared to what the Clintons have been looting over the years.

Trump owns the plane so he has a right to charge passengers for the ride. If they happen to be federal agents then federal funds are used. It would be the same if the agents took any other airline.

U are underestimating Trump,this is the guy who bankrupted casinos four times,manipulated all the loopholes and got away with billions of dollars of losses.this guy hasn't even been in office yet and he's already billed the garmen 6 million and gotten millions of donations from his buddies,and he claims not to take a single cent pay,what a hypocrite,presidents pay is not even enough to cover one of his peanut claims.
 

Papsmearer

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What Trump pockets will be peanuts compared to what the Clintons have been looting over the years.

Trump owns the plane so he has a right to charge passengers for the ride. If they happen to be federal agents then federal funds are used. It would be the same if the agents took any other airline.

What the Clintons have been looting is nothing compared to what FamiLee looted.
 

Leongsam

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Look at how the right-wingers have bitched for eight years. Even your hero, Trump, held on to the lie that Obama was not born in USA for eight years! So, don't preach about fair play and respect when the bigger devil is you and your bunch of deplorables.

I still don't think that Obama was born in the USA. However the matter was closed down so it did not distract from far more important issues leading up to the elections.
 

Leongsam

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U are underestimating Trump,this is the guy who bankrupted casinos four times,manipulated all the loopholes and got away with billions of dollars of losses.this guy hasn't even been in office yet and he's already billed the garmen 6 million and gotten millions of donations from his buddies,and he claims not to take a single cent pay,what a hypocrite,presidents pay is not even enough to cover one of his peanut claims.

Trump is far above these sorts of issues. His accountants and lawyers are the ones that decide financial strategy and execute the nitty gritty.
 

frenchbriefs

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Donald duck is the dr evil from Austin Powers,just wait till he puts his pinky finger to his lips and ransom america for one billion gajillion dollars.....muahahahaha.or else he will press all the secret launch codes and initiate launch sequence for all the nuclear missiles to target Europe,canada and all the coalition blue states.
 

frenchbriefs

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Trump is far above these sorts of issues. His accountants and lawyers are the ones that decide financial strategy and execute the nitty gritty.

Why would accountants go so far as to cover his criminal acts?whats in their interest to do so?that's assisting in fraud,larceny and grand theft.not only they have the personal responsibility,they have the fiduciary responsibility and responsibility to the nation as the keeper of books and ledgers.as spider man Peter parkers dad would say,with great money comes great responsibility.just like PAP love to preach to APHTC.
 

Leongsam

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Why would accountants go so far as to cover his criminal acts?whats in their interest to do so?that's assisting in fraud,larceny and grand theft.not only they have the personal responsibility,they have the fiduciary responsibility and responsibility to the nation as the keeper of books and ledgers.as spider man Peter parkers dad would say,with great money comes great responsibility.just like PAP love to preach to APHTC.

If they were criminal he'd be in jail. Gaming the system isn't a crime it's an art form.
 

frenchbriefs

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If they were criminal he'd be in jail. Gaming the system isn't a crime it's an art form.

Wall Street bankers crashed the world economy and cost nearly 1.3 trillion in bailouts and millions in unemployment and homelessness.no arrests was ever made for 2008.multiple mortgage and bank CEOs walked away with golden parachutes after burning their companies to the ground.america's system has always been to reward the rich criminals and punish the poor.
 

WujiBo

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Trump aeroplane is solar powered?? No need to buy fuel to fly one har? Why cannot claim from taxpayers when his children are all working for the people? Trump did not even ask for a salary. It's only fair he and his family can claim transportation allowances.
 
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winnipegjets

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I'm dont care a whit about Trump or Clinton but your bitching non stop everyday is damned irritating.

It is not bitching ...it is putting out the facts. Not lies, like the right-wingers here do. If you want to hear only one perspective, then a forum is not for you.

By the way, I don't see you getting upset with the right-wing bitching? Why?
 
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