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Chitchat Trump cons the white middle class

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When the working class is angry, facing a bleak future, it is very easy for elites to mobilize racist sentiments, find a racialized scapegoat and turn that anger away from elites and towards a racialized scapegoat. That is the dynamic we saw in Brexit and Trump campaigns.

White 'Brexit' voting block comes out to vote for Trump
African-Americans backed Hillary Clinton but 29% of Latin-Americans voted Republican.

A white voter movement came out and staged its own version of Brexit on Tuesday by supporting U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and his xenophobic, anti-free trade ways, polling data show.

It wasn’t just the white, disaffected male and female voter without a college degree who voted for Trump. So did the white middle class of both sexes and the wealthy, according to U.S. election exit data compiled by CNN based on 24,537 people leaving 350 voting stations.

White voters made up 70 per cent of the total election votes. Of the white support, 58 per cent voted for Trump while 37 per cent went for Hillary Clinton, the data show.

African-Americans made up 12 per cent of the vote and of those 88 per cent supported Clinton and 8 per cent Trump. Of Latin American voters, which made up 11 per cent of the vote — 65 per cent voted Clinton and 29 per cent went Trump.

White, non-college educated support for Trump was expected and so was the support for him among wealthier whites, said Melissa Williams, a University of Toronto political science professor.

“But the base, the core of the support is of white, middle income people of both sexes. The extent of which women in that cohort ended up supporting Trump is a bit surprising,” said Williams, who is spending this year as a senior democracy fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School.

Among white men, 63 per cent went for Trump while 31 per cent voted for Clinton. Among the women, 53 per cent went Trump and only 43 per cent voted Clinton.

“It clearly is a white voting block. The demographic profile of Trump supporters is very similar to that of Brexit supporters,” Williams said.

“When the working class is angry, facing a bleak future, it is very easy for elites to mobilize racist sentiments, find a racialized scapegoat and turn that anger away from elites and towards a racialized scapegoat. That is the dynamic we saw in the Brexit and Trump campaigns,” Williams said.

Brexit is the term used to describe the British voters’ decision to leave the European Union. The man who helped lead Britain out of the EU, Nigel Farage, the interim United Kingdom Independence Party Leader, said Trump’s victory is part of this populist wave, currently upturning establishments.

“Brexit was the first brick that was knocked out of the establishment wall. A lot more were knocked out last night,” Farage told Time magazine on Wednesday.

This truly is a transnational phenomenon, agreed Williams.

“We have been witnessing the rise of right wing, populist; I call them white wing populist movements across advanced democracies. There is something structural going on here that is common to the U.S. and many European countries, including the U.K.,” she said.

Growing wealth inequality, the growth of the 1 per cent top income earners against the 99 per cent, played a role and Clinton did not appeal to those young, millennial voters who supported Democratic primary candidate Bernie Sanders. “They trusted Bernie because he has been hammering inequality forever. He was credible,” said Williams, adding Clinton never achieved Sanders’ popularity with youth.

Trump was not the perfect candidate, but his voters accepted that early on and he had the perfect message for his base, agreed Connor Whitworth, a consultant at Navigator. That was a message of fear, anti-immigration, of calling Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals and of building walls between America and Mexico.

“Voters made up their mind about Trump early on. Yes he was sexist and said terrible things. If they were voting based on what he was going to do for America,” Whitworth said.

Trump supporters railed against globalization. His coalition was formed from a vacuum of deep divisions. Out of this came rural white voters who came out like never before,” Whitworth said.

Trump also won in Pennsylvania and Michigan, rust belt states that he wasn’t expected to win. “Not since 1988 has a Republican won Pennsylvania and Michigan. These are white rural voters. It is not white voters but white rural voters who felt absolutely ignored by Washington,” he said.

Meanwhile, perhaps Clinton’s soft supporters believed the media reports that she was going to win the election and stayed home, neglecting to vote, he added. Clinton, however, did win 94 per cent of the black, female vote while 4 per cent of black females voted Trump.

The US Elections Projects predicted 128.8 million Americans voted, out of 231 million eligible voters, reported Vox, adding this was a low turnout.

Even though Clinton won the popular vote, she still did not gain a majority of the 538 Electoral College votes she needed to become president. Trump won 290 out of the 270 Electoral College votes needed to win the election. Clinton only won 228.
 

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Yep from what I understand he cornered all whites and exceedingly among the wealthiest bloc, he cornered above proportion. There was another idiot talking Shit about Red states from his bare HDB pigeonhole. The funny thing is everybody knows republican GOP is the Rich Man Party. The red vs blue divide in America is a division of conservativeness; of religiosity. Democrats have traditionally depended on black, illegals and white rust belt as stronghold people who struggle.
 

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It was described, over and over, as a movement made up of blue-collar victims of a faltering economy whose lives have been changed by trade and immigration. But when it came to the crunch, it turned out that Donald Trump’s backers were something else entirely: Both far more numerous and much less economically marginal than believed.

Here in Sarasota, the Florida city that was arguably the birthplace of Donald Trump’s presidential ambitions, the people wearing his trademark red baseball caps as they cheered his victories at an election-night rally Tuesday sure didn’t resemble the Rust Belt economic victims often described as his core supporters.

“We’re doing pretty well for ourselves, sure, but we’re really mad about what Obama’s doing to this country,” real estate agent Dave Mattson, 66, said as he and his wife, Wendy, anxiously watched the results at a seaside hotel. He, like almost everyone else here, is white, older, and a more-than-comfortable member of the middle class. And, it turns out, he’s pretty close to being an average Donald Trump voter.


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It appears that the Trump movement was much more about people like the Mattsons than it was about the poverty-stricken victims of globalization portrayed by the Trump campaign.

Hillary Clinton attempted to build her electoral base on the Obama coalition of college-educated white voters, especially women; and on minorities, who made up almost 40 per cent of her supporters. It was here that her support seemed to collapse: Exit polls showed Ms. Clinton won 65 per cent of Latinos, versus 71 per cent for Barack Obama, and 88 per cent of black voters, down from 93 per cent.

The Trump movement has dramatically remade the U.S. electoral map, mobilizing a whole new base of voters who hadn’t previously either voted Republican or voted at all. Those voters were mainly white, older, and more male than female. The big surprise was how many white women without postsecondary education voted for Mr. Trump: 62 per cent, versus 34 per cent for Ms. Clinton.

But were they people suffering from the effects of a globalized world of greater trade and migration?

Americans who voted for Mr. Trump appear to have higher incomes than average. One analysis earlier this year found that Trump voters have a median household income of $72,000 (U.S.), more than the $62,000 average U.S. household income and more than Clinton voters earn. Even among his low-education white voters, only 14 per cent earn less than $50,000 a year, according to one survey.

Mr. Trump’s core strategy was built around a surprising U.S. reality: The number of white adults with no postsecondary education is about the same as the number of black, Latino and Asian voters combined.

His campaign relied on these voters in two ways: By tailoring messages to the economic anxieties and resentments of under-educated whites in a global economy, but also with attacks on Latino, Muslim and black communities.

A large-scale study published on Nov. 2 by two researchers from Gallup – Jonathan Rothwell and Pablo Diego-Rosell – analyzed 125,000 U.S. voters and found that Mr. Trump’s supporters do not fit the candidate’s narrative.

They found that voters with favourable views of Mr. Trump are indeed less educated and typically blue-collar. But the study confirmed that they have higher-than-average incomes and found that they are “no more likely to be unemployed or exposed to competition through trade or immigration” than average Americans or Clinton backers.

In fact, places that have been strongly affected by trade or immigration do not find much Trump support.

But the study did find that Trump supporters are overwhelmingly found in places with high levels of segregation (where white voters have little day-to-day exposure to minorities or immigrants) and with high levels of dependency on social security and other government income sources.

It could be that Mr. Trump’s generally comfortable white voters are driven by resentment of less prosperous neighbours they see receiving government assistance (and thus raising taxes). “These are relatively well-off, less-educated blue collar workers who see poorer blue-collar whites who are suffering,” Washington-based political writer Dylan Matthews concluded, “and view them as undeserving recipients of government aid. That’s less a story about personal anxiety and more one about class politics.”

Another approach to the Trump phenomenon was taken in October by a team of researchers led by Prof. Raul Hinojosa Ojeda at University of California, Los Angeles. They analyzed the census and economic data of thousands of counties across the United States with high levels of Trump support against his campaign claim that “America ceased being great because of illegal immigrants and trade agreements that take U.S. jobs.”

What they found was the opposite: a negative correlation between Trump support and “the population size of Mexican immigrants” or “import competition from Mexico or China.” In fact, they found that Trump-supporting counties are those most likely to have high levels of exports to Russia and China and therefore to have gained from trade agreements.

In fact, only 2 per cent of U.S. counties had both majority Trump support and high levels of immigration or trade.

Combine that with the higher incomes and employment levels of Trump backers and the narrative of economic disenfranchisement falls apart.

What, then, did unite so many voters – about 90 per cent of them white and six out of 10 of them without more than a high-school diploma – behind a figure such as Donald Trump, whose racially charged populism would previously have been on the fringes of politics?

One may be fear of a changing world that leaves them feeling exposed: White low-education adults have fallen from 60 per cent to 40 per cent of the population since 1980s, and these studies all find that Trump voters are most likely to live in racially and ethnically segregated regions dominated by old-economy jobs.

This sense of potential (rather than real) vulnerability and anger at the changing political and security realities of the 21st century stand out among Mr. Trump’s supporters; it’s what they keep repeating in interviews. And it might mean that his narrative of trade and immigration wasn’t what caused so many people to rally behind him – his personality, his anger and his outsider status were far more important.
 

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Actually Trump this time won by just retaining the traditional conservative voting bloc won by Romney last round and by gaining new bloc - struggling rust belters who swung to him.

The question isn't so much how Trump won but how Hillary lost.
Hillary failed to maintain traditional Democrat stronghold demographic who are typically shoo-in for democrats. The three groups- women, black and Latinos. All three groups voted more for Obama last round than for her this round which means they either swung to trump or spoiled their votes.

All the crimes and evil ways that were floating about online and by Wikileaks must have dented her image plus the corrupt mainstream media in her pocket went too far in demonizing Trump and shilling for her. Americans are not as gullible dumbasses as sinkies when they see a concerted effort by the establishment to shill for one cause or the state alarm bells start ringing.
 

eatshitndie

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nope, no more conning. he's a changed man. he wrote me an email yesterday to thank me personally (with my name inserted within his paragraphs - yeah, i know it's easily done electronically) for the successful campaign. i'm looking forward to support and possibly join the trump admin. i'm already proposing the 6.9 layers of the virtual wall at the mexican border.
 

winnipegjets

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nope, no more conning. he's a changed man. he wrote me an email yesterday to thank me personally (with my name inserted within his paragraphs - yeah, i know it's easily done electronically) for the successful campaign. i'm looking forward to support and possibly join the trump admin. i'm already proposing the 6.9 layers of the virtual wall at the mexican border.

Let's have a wager ...I bet that Trump will be forced to leave office before his term is up.
 

winnipegjets

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Actually Trump this time won by just retaining the traditional conservative voting bloc won by Romney last round and by gaining new bloc - struggling rust belters who swung to him.

The question isn't so much how Trump won but how Hillary lost.
Hillary failed to maintain traditional Democrat stronghold demographic who are typically shoo-in for democrats. The three groups- women, black and Latinos. All three groups voted more for Obama last round than for her this round which means they either swung to trump or spoiled their votes.

All the crimes and evil ways that were floating about online and by Wikileaks must have dented her image plus the corrupt mainstream media in her pocket went too far in demonizing Trump and shilling for her. Americans are not as gullible dumbasses as sinkies when they see a concerted effort by the establishment to shill for one cause or the state alarm bells start ringing.

If Clinton was as authentic in her campaign as she was in her concession speech yesterday, she would have won.
The media demonized Trump? You gotta be kidding.
 

eatshitndie

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count me in....I won't be betting but I hope to get a free laksa . Talking about laksa...what happened to laksaboy?

either passed away or kena hounded and stalked by a freely spirit here until bo pian go into hiding. but most likely married to sinkie scowler and got banned from internet access by scowler spouse.
 

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What a waste of a high posting forummer....he should have married one of the girls here.


either passed away or kena hounded and stalked by a freely spirit here until bo pian go into hiding. but most likely married to sinkie scowler and got banned from internet access by scowler spouse.
 

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PROOF: Blacks, women, Hispanics voted for “racist, sexist” Trump

[video=youtube;yhUXSX3ZnpE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhUXSX3ZnpE[/video]
 
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