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Serious Sinkieland so fast already got 41 Zika cases, from FT workers, Fucking PAP.

rover2sg

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Why is it so hard to explain these in clear english. None of the official press organisation can write a decent article to save their lives. The epicentre is the construction site at 60 Sim Drive where 90% of the cases are linked. No basic journalist approach - questions such as what is there, which construction site, why that construction site etc. If they let people run around like headless chickens the govt has only itself to blame. LWL is right - its the least transparent of the 3 govts whether intentional or otherwise.

Methinks, it is the current Cabinet and those in the PMO which is comprises of "headless chickens". :biggrin: ... and this is no joking matter, lah.
 

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Take a look at this comment from Middle Ground. Despite so many poorly handle cases in the last year alone - food poisoning, Hep C contaminations, deaths etc, no improvement.

Dr Leong Hoe Nam, the infectious diseases specialist at Mount Elizabeth Novena Hospital who diagnosed Singapore’s first Zika case in May, thinks that MOH should have done better.

“Every single mild case of fever, they should have investigated,” said Dr Leong, “It was a chance to break the cycle. Kudos to the GP who picked up the trend. We must remember that Zika is very mild, compared to dengue. Patients may not be sick enough to go to hospital but to the GP instead. So the GP now is the gatekeeper.”
 

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Explanation is needed on why -

1 Sudden huge number?
2 Why the delay in reporting?
3 What exactly are they doing to prevent further rise?

Are having another "SGH lapses" and "MRT trains fear of panic late report" again? :confused::mad:

they were trying to keep a lid on it
 

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I won't be surprised if Zika virus has been here all along for decades and maybe more. I understand that it is milder than dengue and was probably treated as normal fever and flu. It will be interesting to see what the final outcome is. The fact that epicentre is a construction site where breeding has always been a concern helps point to that.

The Zika virus has only recently mutated and now contain the genome that affects the development of the brain in the foetus.

Maybe in its "milder" form may lie dormant in some of our current "ministers". They are more "economy and monetary" developed rather then "humanitarian good leadership" aspects.
:biggrin:
 

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http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/why-moh-did-not-announce-zika-cases-earlier
Why the MOH did not announce the Zika cases earlier
Thermal fogging being carried out in the vicinity of Block 102, Aljunied Crescent on Aug 28, 2016. Photo: Ooi Boon Keong / TODAY

BY
TAN WEIZHEN
[email protected]ISHED: 10:40 PM, AUGUST 28, 2016UPDATED: 7:42 AM, AUGUST 29, 2016
Q) When was the earliest case that Ministry of Health backtracked to?

Dr Derrick Heng (MOH Group Director for Public Health Group): The (earliest) case that we know of was July 31. We would not have picked up on all the cases, (so) we would not be able to pinpoint definitively the first index case (patient zero).

Mr Koh Peng Keng (MOH Group Director, Operations): The first case we knew of was patient A (the 47-year-old Malaysian woman whose case was reported on Saturday). The rest of it we had to work with the GPs, to do a lot of tracking to try and look back.

Dr Heng: We went back to look at people who were part of the GP (cases), and (at the) construction site, the people who had reported symptoms in the past. We took samples...the samples (tested) positive sometime late last night (on Saturday).

Mr Koh: The GP alerted us of this unusual cluster of cases with mild symptoms, it’s only (then) we went back to check....most of them had already recovered. So it was a look back...Initial hypothesis was that it was just some mild viral infection that transmits from person to person. Zika was not specifically suspected at that point when the GP was seeing this group.

Q) Saturday was confirmation that the woman (patient A) had Zika. But you had preliminary results, did you start looking before Saturday, or did you only start work on Saturday when you had confirmed results?

Dr Heng: We started preparations when the preliminary results (came out). But we had to wait for confirmation in order not to create false alarm.

Q) Patient A was at CDC on Aug 25, and it takes about three hours to do the test. So you should have known by that night.

Professor Leo Yee Sin (clinical director of Communicable Disease Centre): Her presence at CDC from the time we received her as a case, to the time she did the blood test, all this is actually a very compressed period of time, including getting her back for further assessment.

Q) The first case was announced on Saturday, and it jumped to 41 cases. Could the MOH have announced all these cases earlier?

Health Minister Gan Kim Yong: Part of the reason that we have discovered more cases is because we have now gone back to the cases that were seen before by doctors. They were not suspected to have Zika, because they have no travel history and so on. Now that we know there is a case ...we’ve therefore gone back to all these cases that were surfaced before, and checked their blood tests, and that’s why we have discovered more cases, as a result of the first case. So out of the 41 cases, I think some 36 cases were a result of this active testing of the patients who were in the areas of concern, whom we felt there was the potential they would be infected by Zika. Then we went back to relook at their test results. Some were even retested to determine whether they were infected by Zika.

Q) Why did it take two days before the MOH announced patient A’s case?

Mr Gan: Some required double confirmation. So first we tested them on the urine test...various steps of testing.

Q) So it’s not like you knew about it earlier, but was keeping quiet about it?

Mr Gan: No, of course not

""Q) Why did it take two days before the MOH announced patient A’s case?

Mr Gan: Some required double confirmation. So first we tested them on the urine test...various steps of testing.""

Need to wait for "double confirm" ? Has he been seeing too many of the "noose" in Channel 5? :rolleyes:
 

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They can go to all the approved huge dormitories in Singapore....especially in Kranji Road area & elsewhere..where the workers staying there number in the thousands...

You will get to the source of:

1. Polio
2. Malaria
3. HFMD
4. Dengue
5. Zika
6. VD
7. HIV
8. TB

These are 'containers' of the diseases.......how effective is our Medical screening...one have to dig deep to find out....or else you will be accused of spreading rumours....

BTW - Seriously is not "milder than dengue" ! Tell that to an infected young woman, particularly in her early stage of pregnancy.
The MOH should have taken a more serious attention on this matter. They have failed again!
Do a see a possible hara kiri? Maybe an apology or maybe a resignation?
 

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BTW - Seriously is not "milder than dengue" ! Tell that to an infected young woman, particularly in her early stage of pregnancy.
The MOH should have taken a more serious attention on this matter. They have failed again!
Do a see a possible hara kiri? Maybe an apology or maybe a resignation?

Don't believe all that crap about Zika being linked to birth defects. There is no direct evidence.

Besides if Singaporeans actually cared about the brain development of their children they wouldn't be sending them to a PAP kindergarten at a young and impressionable age where the cause and effect have been proven beyond doubt.
 

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Two wrongs doesn't make a right.....but they can paint black into white & vice versa....that is their talent.




With the recession we are seeing many Sporeans losing their rice bowl. Since the GE we have also seen plenty of cockups e.g. Brand new trains with cracks, problems with TB & deaths in our Hospitals, problems with our elevators,.... now we have the zika case.

All these problems are tarnishing the reputation of the PAP. In 4 to 5 years I suspect that many of the 70% may decide to skip the next GE or look at the alternatives.

It seems rhat the PAP's worst enemy is the PAP :biggrin:
 

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With the recession we are seeing many Sporeans losing their rice bowl. Since the GE we have also seen plenty of cockups e.g. Brand new trains with cracks, problems with TB & deaths in our Hospitals, problems with our elevators,.... now we have the zika case.

All these problems are tarnishing the reputation of the PAP. In 4 to 5 years I suspect that many of the 70% may decide to skip the next GE or look at the alternatives.

It seems rhat the PAP's worst enemy is the PAP :biggrin:

The pap is a non performer and is struggling. It will be completely exposed at the right time. The pap is in rapid decline.
 

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With the recession we are seeing many Sporeans losing their rice bowl. Since the GE we have also seen plenty of cockups e.g. Brand new trains with cracks, problems with TB & deaths in our Hospitals, problems with our elevators,.... now we have the zika case.

All these problems are tarnishing the reputation of the PAP. In 4 to 5 years I suspect that many of the 70% may decide to skip the next GE or look at the alternatives.

It seems rhat the PAP's worst enemy is the PAP :biggrin:

PAP is still by far the strongest political party in Singapore. It has branch offices in every ward and thousands upon thousands of party activists, grassroots leaders and volunteers who don't hold official membership. The political resources of all the other opposition parties put together can't even match 1/4 of what PAP has to offer.

PAP will still continue to dominate Singapore at least for the next 3 elections until the opposition parties can improve on their outreach and resources.
 

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PAP is still by far the strongest political party in Singapore. It has branch offices in every ward and thousands upon thousands of party activists, grassroots leaders and volunteers who don't hold official membership. The political resources of all the other opposition parties put together can't even match 1/4 of what PAP has to offer.

PAP will still continue to dominate Singapore at least for the next 3 elections until the opposition parties can improve on their outreach and resources.

PAP do not need transparent "branches". They have their real branches in your" Do something meaningful. Join the grassroots. Peoples' Association all the way!":biggrin:
 

rover2sg

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With the recession we are seeing many Sporeans losing their rice bowl. Since the GE we have also seen plenty of cockups e.g. Brand new trains with cracks, problems with TB & deaths in our Hospitals, problems with our elevators,.... now we have the zika case.

All these problems are tarnishing the reputation of the PAP. In 4 to 5 years I suspect that many of the 70% may decide to skip the next GE or look at the alternatives.

It seems rhat the PAP's worst enemy is the PAP :biggrin:

This "It seems rhat the PAP's worst enemy is the PAP" may be truer than you think!. That, and their "new" citizens of "non-Singaporeans" and PRs will be their eventual downfall. :biggrin:
 

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With the recession we are seeing many Sporeans losing their rice bowl. Since the GE we have also seen plenty of cockups e.g. Brand new trains with cracks, problems with TB & deaths in our Hospitals, problems with our elevators,.... now we have the zika case.

All these problems are tarnishing the reputation of the PAP. In 4 to 5 years I suspect that many of the 70% may decide to skip the next GE or look at the alternatives.

It seems rhat the PAP's worst enemy is the PAP :biggrin:

I was & still a huge fan of gu long, wu xia stories.....of his theme is "your best friend is your best enemy"....the saying goes too as in " we are our own worse enemy"...

The rot of the PAP will come from within...as in many, dynasties, empires....
 

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http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/why-moh-did-not-announce-zika-cases-earlier
Why the MOH did not announce the Zika cases earlier
Thermal fogging being carried out in the vicinity of Block 102, Aljunied Crescent on Aug 28, 2016. Photo: Ooi Boon Keong / TODAY

BY
TAN WEIZHEN
[email protected]ISHED: 10:40 PM, AUGUST 28, 2016UPDATED: 7:42 AM, AUGUST 29, 2016
Q) When was the earliest case that Ministry of Health backtracked to?

Dr Derrick Heng (MOH Group Director for Public Health Group): The (earliest) case that we know of was July 31. We would not have picked up on all the cases, (so) we would not be able to pinpoint definitively the first index case (patient zero).

Mr Koh Peng Keng (MOH Group Director, Operations): The first case we knew of was patient A (the 47-year-old Malaysian woman whose case was reported on Saturday). The rest of it we had to work with the GPs, to do a lot of tracking to try and look back.

Dr Heng: We went back to look at people who were part of the GP (cases), and (at the) construction site, the people who had reported symptoms in the past. We took samples...the samples (tested) positive sometime late last night (on Saturday).

Mr Koh: The GP alerted us of this unusual cluster of cases with mild symptoms, it’s only (then) we went back to check....most of them had already recovered. So it was a look back...Initial hypothesis was that it was just some mild viral infection that transmits from person to person. Zika was not specifically suspected at that point when the GP was seeing this group.

Q) Saturday was confirmation that the woman (patient A) had Zika. But you had preliminary results, did you start looking before Saturday, or did you only start work on Saturday when you had confirmed results?

Dr Heng: We started preparations when the preliminary results (came out). But we had to wait for confirmation in order not to create false alarm.

Q) Patient A was at CDC on Aug 25, and it takes about three hours to do the test. So you should have known by that night.

Professor Leo Yee Sin (clinical director of Communicable Disease Centre): Her presence at CDC from the time we received her as a case, to the time she did the blood test, all this is actually a very compressed period of time, including getting her back for further assessment.

Q) The first case was announced on Saturday, and it jumped to 41 cases. Could the MOH have announced all these cases earlier?

Health Minister Gan Kim Yong: Part of the reason that we have discovered more cases is because we have now gone back to the cases that were seen before by doctors. They were not suspected to have Zika, because they have no travel history and so on. Now that we know there is a case ...we’ve therefore gone back to all these cases that were surfaced before, and checked their blood tests, and that’s why we have discovered more cases, as a result of the first case. So out of the 41 cases, I think some 36 cases were a result of this active testing of the patients who were in the areas of concern, whom we felt there was the potential they would be infected by Zika. Then we went back to relook at their test results. Some were even retested to determine whether they were infected by Zika.

Q) Why did it take two days before the MOH announced patient A’s case?

Mr Gan: Some required double confirmation. So first we tested them on the urine test...various steps of testing.

Q) So it’s not like you knew about it earlier, but was keeping quiet about it?

Mr Gan: No, of course not

So in short doctors thought it not zika so waved the patients away and gave them panadol and light duties for malingering, is it? :confused:
 

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hope that it hit above 100 tomorrow.
 

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they were trying to keep a lid on it

They have to... if not the target of 6.9 million will be derailed.

Imagine, now we clutter ourselves with the FT in pack trains and buses and the population is only at 5.5 million .

With this number we already have TB outbreak which is highly contagious and now zika.

What will we have next..???
 

numero uno

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They have to... if not the target of 6.9 million will be derailed.

Imagine, now we clutter ourselves with the FT in pack trains and buses and the population is only at 5.5 million .

With this number we already have TB outbreak which is highly contagious and now zika.

What will we have next..???

Well. I did warned about the dangers of all these stupid policies of building more condos and idiots like that Mr Liu TK and his bastard idea of cramping 8-10 million people in such a small island for his selfish needs. I predicted it 3 years ago in this forum. Where are these idiots now? How come so quiet. He was boasting about how it is possible to cramp up to 10 million people in such a small place. A perfect formula for an epidemic. A buffet feast for the mozzies. They cannot control dengue and now this. Somebody should screw this liu asshole. Easy for him to say as he stays in bulky timah probably and not in hdb. Short sighted selfish crap ideas that even the shitty times was always supporting him and given a lot of publicity to his views. Where is he now? How come so silent all of a sudden? Bet a few thousand cases have already slipped through the net.
 
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