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Chitchat Preggy Sinkie Tulan Employer Don't Give Chance!

Pinkieslut

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PREGNANT JOB SEEKER TURNED DOWN FOR INTERVIEW

USA, New Jersey, Jersey City, Young pregnant woman working in office

Sally Tan (not her real name), 29, told us of how she was scheduled for a job interview. A day before the interview, she found out she was pregnant. Being the honest person she was, she shared it with the hiring manager of the company.

The hiring manager expressed his unhappiness and cancelled the interview. (Ok, the exact term used was “postponed indefinitely”). All because she committed the crime of pregnancy.

This got her thinking:

We are all human beings, we all came from a selfless lady who carried us around for 9 months in their belly. Like it or not, we all arrive on this planet from a vagina.

Not only do working mothers have it hard having to manage both work and family, they have great difficulty having to find employment in the first place!

Incredibly, the hiring manager is another female! Another female whom actually remarked “Oh, how unfortunate” to a candidate being pregnant..and then proceeded to cancel the interview!

This is not an isolated incident. Sally knows of friends whom had their job offers revoked also on the grounds that they are pregnant.

Are we not a society that prides ourselves to hire based on merit?

Now, the labour movement in Singapore had spent much effort building (and continuing to build) a system that is fair for mothers and their employers. They have spent much effort in policy protection for mothers.

If you are employed, whether contract or permanent, you have a wide variety of tools to help you seek redress. And more are being developed every day.

The weakest link however, is that employers refuse the the relationship of employment to start with. That means they don’t even want to give the job to a woman whom is having, about to have or anticipated to have a baby.

This is actually quite dangerous for society. This could mean that companies won’t reward working woman in childbearing age fully, in the fear that they could “drop off to have a baby”. It was as if it was a crime…or a disease.

Today, there is no legal redress to discrimination. Singapore does not yet have an Equality Act (an anti-discrimination legislation) to take unethical employers to task.

The reason provided by the Tripartite Alliance for Fair & Progressive Employment Practices (TAFEP) is this:

“The experience of other countries is that anti-discriminatory laws alone might not adequately change mindsets in this area. Employment relations are complex, and at the core is the mindsets of both employers and employees.

Singapore is fortunate to have a strong tripartite partnership built over the years that allows us to use this approach to effectively tackle difficult and sensitive employment issues in a win-win fashion. With the support of the Tripartite partners, TAFEP is adopting a promotional and educational approach to tackle the issue of discrimination at the workplace. We believe that this will be a more effective way to encourage employers to adopt progressive and enlightened employment practices.”

I think what TAFEP is trying to say, is two things:

a.) Singapore is not yet ready for anti-discriminatory laws. It can be written into statute, but it can very easily be gamed.

b.) There needs to be a lot of education, moral persuasion and buy-in by both employers and employees alike before legislation can be passed

c.) There is action you can take.

“Strong tripartite partnership” means that the Ministry of Manpower and the NTUC have much policy leverage they can use against an errant employer.

Individuals who encounter employment discrimination should first contact TAFEP. They would then work with the employer to improve its employment practices, put in place fair and responsible employment practices and get them to adopt Tripartite guidelines.

Should the company continue with unethical practices, the Ministry of Manpower will initiate administrative action. This includes curtailment of their work pass privileges.

We are still a long way off from getting rid of discrimination…of any sort, be it of mothers, of race, of sex, religion, sexual orientation and so on.

Everyone has a wealth of skills, knowledge and experiences to offer your company. If you chose to filter out people because of bias, the loss is yours.
 

congo9

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Woman are at best left at home to fulfill their maternal instinct, till they are ready for their next phase of life.

What tripartite nonsense. Society must play a part to re - educate woman that their roles can be protected. When push comes to shove, government will give up their rights over the commercial ones. Just as a normal Singkie working man. Their rights has been trampled on and no help in sight.

You give birth, but so what? Other woman also gave birth. It's not that you are facing extinction.
 

chootchiew

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Actually this issue is easily solve by not giving maternity leave for entire globe.
This is a fairest arrangement to all parties.
A person gets paid for working. Many women take advantage of this and worst a lot of them are holding high level post with high income.
Simple as that no work no pay go unpaid leaves.
 

JohnTan

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As a boss, I need an employee who would show up to work, not disappear from the job within months of joining the company.
 

frenchbriefs

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this is why i hate women and their feminine logic.

u want to complain about companies not wanting to start a working relationship with you because you are pregnanat or soon to be expecting?like what do we even owe u in the first place?so basically u want us to pay the price for you letting a man stick his dick in you? u want the company to pay for your hospitalization fees?to pay for your weeks of pregnancy leave?to pay someone whos not even going to be there to work?like wtf?u want us society to be your baby daddy?wtf are u?the queen ant of the hive?why dont u mandate that whenever a women has a baby,even single guy whose known her in her life,from her ah gong to her second cousin twice remove to her classmate back in primary school have to show up at the hospital with flowers and gifts and has to pay her child alimony?we dont have any relationship in the first place but we are supposed to start a new relationship with you and your child?
 
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chootchiew

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this is why i hate women and their feminine logic.

u want to complain about companies not wanting to start a working relationship with you because you are pregnanat or soon to be expecting?like what do we even owe u in the first place?so basically u want us to pay the price for you letting a man stick his dick in you? u want the company to pay for your hospitalization fees?to pay for your weeks of pregnancy leave?to pay someone whos not even going to be there to work?like wtf?u want us society to be your baby daddy?wtf are u?the queen ant of the hive?why dont u mandate that whenever a women has a baby,even single guy whose known her in her life,from her ah gong to her second cousin twice remove to her classmate back in primary school have to show up at the hospital with flowers and gifts and has to pay her child alimony?we dont have any relationship in the first place but we are supposed to start a new relationship with you and your child?

There is a modulus operandi for some FTs . Ever encountered someone who managed to get 1 year salary as a high paid, full fledge engineer in a US MNC but only worked for a few weeks. A Filipino couple , both husband and wife professionals . Husband holding another high scale position with another company. Wife came to sg with her husband with a unknown uni cert and managed to land herself this position. But all her plans were properly executed...
After worked for 3 weeks, took 60 days hospitalization leave. Upon discharge 2 weeks later announced pregnancy . As a FT she is entitled for 2 mths maternity leave.
Before going on maternity leave, everyday late for work, reasons being need to go for pre pregnant checks, therapies, etc. coupled with applying for MCs and annual leaves .In between all the workdays will be come late go back early - Continued to the maternity leaves, finish continue with balance annual leave, mcs and unpaid leave, and finally throw the towel :eek...Till the stage whereby our directors given up hopes of her returning to work :eek
 
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chootchiew

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There is a modulus operandi for some FTs . Ever encountered someone who managed to get 1 year salary as a high paid, full fledge engineer in a US MNC but only worked for a few weeks. A Filipino couple , both husband and wife professionals . Husband holding another high scale position with another company. Wife came to sg with her husband with a unknown uni cert and managed to land herself this position. But all her plans were properly executed...
After worked for 3 weeks, took 60 days hospitalization leave. Upon discharge 2 weeks later announced pregnancy . As a FT she is entitled for 2 mths maternity leave.
Before going on maternity leave, everyday late for work, reasons being need to go for pre pregnant checks, therapies, etc. coupled with applying for MCs and annual leaves .In between all the workdays will be come late go back early - Continued to the maternity leaves, finish continue with balance annual leave, mcs and unpaid leave, and finally throw the towel :eek...Till the stage whereby our directors given up hopes of her returning to work :eek

I would kowtow to her if she can do this another round of 1 year, as the company did not fire her :eek: She should continue to do this till being fired , abit stupid. :p
 
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