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Serious Mudlaysia - Judge allows rapist to rape victim more often (orders marriage)

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Ahmad Syukri Yusuf, aged in his 20s, allegedly raped the girl, now 15, last year and faced up to 30 years in prison and a whipping.

But a court in the Malaysian state of Sarawak on Borneo island ruled last week it would not proceed with the case after it emerged Yusuf had married his alleged victim. Malaysia's Women, Family and Community Development Minister Rohani Abdul Karim said the deputy public prosecutor will ask the High Court to review the case. She added authorities will in future prevent suspects accused of rape from marrying the alleged victim.

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se...rce=Facebook&xtor=CS1-10#link_time=1470387931


HOW SHARIA LAW PUNISHES RAPED WOMEN
Hasan Mahmud
http://www.ahl-alquran.com/English/show_article.php?main_id=6157



Islam allows fornication with pre-pubescent girls (girls who have not menstruated)

Top Islamic scholars' explanations of Qur'an 65:4 show that the verse assumes consummation of marriage with prepubescent girls
Before quoting the scholars on Quran 65:4, it should be noted that Quran 33:49 lays down that when a divorced female is to marry a new spouse, a waiting period is required only if the previous marriage was consummated. The scholars I will be quoting below all know this. One of them, Maududi, mentions and explains it.

With that in mind, first consider Ibn Abbas, a companion of Muhammad, and one of many authorities who affirm that Qur'an 65:4 refers to the waiting period for prepubescent girls to remarry after divorce.

Ibn Abbas paraphrasing and explaining Quran 65:4
(And for such of your women as despair of menstruation) because of old age, (if ye doubt) about their waiting period, (their period (of waiting) shall be three months) upon which another man asked: “O Messenger of Allah! What about the waiting period of those who do not have menstruation because they are too young?” (along with those who have it not) because of young age, their waiting period is three months. Another man asked: “what is the waiting period for those women who are pregnant?” (And for those with child) i.e. those who are pregnant, (their period) their waiting period (shall be till they bring forth their burden) their child. (And whosoever keepeth his duty to Allah) and whoever fears Allah regarding what he commands him, (He maketh his course easy for him) He makes his matter easy; and it is also said this means: He will help him to worship Him well.

Some eight hundred years later appeared the Tafsir al-Jalalayn, one of the most widely used interpretations of the Qur'an. Tafsir al-Jalalayn also paraphrases Quran 65:4 and says part of it speaks of the waiting period before remarriage of divorced, prepubescent girls:
And [as for] those of your women who (read allā’ī or allā’i in both instances) no longer expect to menstruate, if you have any doubts, about their waiting period, their prescribed [waiting] period shall be three months, and [also for] those who have not yet menstruated, because of their young age, their period shall [also] be three months — both cases apply to other than those whose spouses have died; for these [latter] their period is prescribed in the verse: they shall wait by themselves for four months and ten [days] [Q. 2:234]. And those who are pregnant, their term, the conclusion of their prescribed [waiting] period if divorced or if their spouses be dead, shall be when they deliver. And whoever fears God, He will make matters ease for him, in this world and in the Hereafter.

65:4, according to Wahidi's respected explanation of the Quran: (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) [65:4]. Said Muqatil: “When the verse (Women who are divorced shall wait, keeping themselves apart…), Kallad ibn al-Nu‘man ibn Qays al-Ansari said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, what is the waiting period of the woman who does not menstruate and the woman who has not menstruated yet? And what is the waiting period of the pregnant woman?’ And so Allah, exalted is He, revealed this verse”. Abu Ishaq al-Muqri’ informed us Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allah ibn Hamdun Makki ibn ‘Abdan Abu’l-Azhar Asbat ibn Muhammad Mutarrif Abu ‘Uthman ‘Amr ibn Salim who said: “When the waiting period for divorced and widowed women was mentioned in Surah al-Baqarah, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b said: ‘O Messenger of Allah, some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!’ He asked him: ‘And who are they?’ He said: ‘Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant’. And so this verse (And for such of your women as despair of menstruation…) was revealed”.
The bracketed text is not me, it's in the Wahidi at Altafsir.com.

Ibn Kathir is perhaps the Muslim world's most respected Quran expositor.

Kathir says of 65:4
Allah the Exalted clarifies the waiting period of the woman in menopause. And that is the one whose menstruation has stopped due to her older age. Her `Iddah [waiting period before remarriage] is three months instead of the three monthly cycles for those who menstruate, which is based upon the Ayah [verse] in (Surat) Al-Baqarah. (see Qur'an 2:228) The same for the young, who have not reached the years of menstruation. Their `Iddah [waiting period before remarriage] is three months like those in menopause. This is the meaning of His [Allah's] saying;
[Qur'an 65:4] (and for those who have no courses...)
Syed Abul Ala Maududi (died 1979), another famous Qur'an expositor, says of Quran 65:4:
Here, one should bear in mind the fact that according to the explanations given in the Quran the question of the waiting period arises in respect of the women with whom marriage may have been consummated, for there is no waiting-period in case divorce is pronounced before the consummation of marriage. (Al-Ahzab: 49) [Quran Chapter 33, Verse 49]. Therefore, [the Quran] making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Quran has held as permissible.
So major Muslim expositors of the Quran agree that Quran 65:4 assumes and supports consummation of marriage with prepubescent girls. These expositors know what Maududi above mentions: per Quran 33:49, a waiting period before remarriage is only required if the dissolved marriage was consummated.

Also, many Muslim translations of 65:4 make absolutely clear that the verse refers to the waiting period before remarriage of prepubescent girls. See for example these translations: Al-Muntakahb, Abdel Haleem, Abdul Majid Daryabadi, Aisha Bewley, Ali Quli Qara'i, Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali, Muhammad Taqi Usmani.

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Also, from Sahih al-Bukhari, the most canonical hadith collection, see this hadith which refers to the waiting period for girls "before puberty":

Volume 7, Book 62, Number 63:
Narrated Sahl bin Sad:

While we were sitting in the company of the Prophet a woman came to him and presented herself (for marriage) to him. The Prophet looked at her, lowering his eyes and raising them, but did not give a reply. One of his companions said, "Marry her to me O Allah's Apostle!" The Prophet asked (him), "Have you got anything?" He said, "I have got nothing." The Prophet said, "Not even an iron ring?" He Sad, "Not even an iron ring, but I will tear my garment into two halves and give her one half and keep the other half." The Prophet; said, "No. Do you know some of the Quran (by heart)?" He said, "Yes." The Prophet said, "Go, I have agreed to marry her to you with what you know of the Qur'an (as her Mahr)." 'And for those who have no courses (i.e. they are still immature). (Qur'an 65.4) And the 'Iddat [waiting period before remarriage] for the girl before puberty is three months (in the above Verse).
[The last lines are what the man knows of the Quran.]
 

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mos-limps is truly a great relee-gion.
even include mundane issue such as female menopause in the holee teaching [aka indoctrination]
does that holee book also teach about physiology of the male sexual function ?
 

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mos-limps is truly a great relee-gion.
even include mundane issue such as female menopause in the holee teaching [aka indoctrination]
does that holee book also teach about physiology of the male sexual function ?

Pedo Mo claimed to have the sexual prowess of 30 men.

Islamic tradition relates that Muhammad was a superman when it came to sex:

Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268)

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet used to visit all his wives in one night and he had nine wives at that time. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 282; see also parallel hadiths in Vol. 7, Book 62, Numbers 6 and 142)

How credible are these traditions? Note that Muhammad was not a young man of twenty or 25 at that time — and it would have been rather incredible even at that age —, but he was already about 60 years old when he had finally aquired all those nine wives. Moreover, these traditions state that this was not an exceptional one time event, but allege that Muhammad did so regularly.

There is another hadith which may provide an explanation of how these above traditions have to be understood:

Narrated Aisha: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 660; see also Number 661)

Maybe the hadith relating that Muhammad was imagining having sex with his wives — while in reality he had not — is a commentary/explanation to the first set of traditions? Note again that this tradition (originating with Muhammad's favorite wife and sex partner!) also emphasizes that this happened not only once but regularly.

For a detailed discussion on the issue of magic and Muhammad having come under a spell, see the articles listed in the dictionary entry Muhammad and Satan.

Even though Muhammad probably did not have all the sex that he thought he had performed, the above traditions still provide part of the evidence that sex was rather prominently on his mind, see also the article Muhammad, Islam, and Sex.

Far-reaching implications

The consequences of this observation are much larger than merely gaining a clearer picture of Muhammad's sex life. Apparently, the so-called authentic and trustworthy hadiths are reporting Muhammad's sustained illusions and hallucinations as if they were factual!

If that is indeed the case on this issue, this immediately raises the next question: How many more of the hadiths in the foundational collections of Islamic traditions would potentially fall into that category? Many of the teachings of Islam, both regarding theology and instructions for practical life, are based on these hadiths. Are Muslims building their faith and their lives on something that may not have been much more than the result of Muhammad's hallucinations?

If it is established that Muhammad's illusions are narrated as facts in the hadiths, this also raises doubts in regard to the Qur'an. What if some or all of the alleged "visitations of the angel Gabriel" and the "revelations that were brought down" by him were creations of an unstable mind, and have really been an illusion instead of a fact?
http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/sex_superman.html
 
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