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Serious SMRT And MTR Shipping Back Defective Trains Secretly! Guess The Manufacturer?

JohnTan

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Chinese-made subway trains in Singapore have cracks in their car bodies and key structural components, resulting in 35 trains being shipped back to their manufacturer in Qingdao for replacement, FactWire can reveal.

Details of the defects and the recalls have been kept secret in both Singapore and China. The same mainland manufacturer is responsible for manufacturing nine trains for the Guangzhou-Shenzhen-Hong Kong Express Rail Link (XLR) and 93 trains for the Mass Transit Railway Corporation’s (MTR Corporation) four urban lines.

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A source from the mainland railway industry told FactWire that Singapore’s subway operator SMRT Trains Ltd (SMRT) was secretly shipping defective trains back to mainland China for replacement and repair by manufacturer CSR Sifang Locomotive & Rolling Stock Company Ltd (CSR Sifang).

According to sources, the defective trains are being stored at SMRT’s Bishan Depot. After 1am on June 12, FactWire reporters witnessed two train cars wrapped in green covering being moved out of the depot.

Each of the two covered train cars were more than 20m long. They were placed on large dollies used for transporting train cars and were towed away by cargo trucks, led by police cars and construction vehicles. At approximately 3am, the two train cars arrived at Jurong Port, located in Singapore’s western industrial area. Using a drone camera, reporters discovered that six train cars had already been placed in one corner of the port. Cranes, derricks, and other large machines believed to be used for lifting trains were situated nearby.

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Another source from the mainland railway industry confirmed that the train spotted by FactWire reporters was to be taken by cargo ship to Qingdao, with the voyage taking more than 10 days. In late June, reporters went to the factory of train manufacturer CSR Sifang, located in Qingdao’s Chengyang district. Two of CSR Sifang’s staff confirmed that the train had arrived at the factory on June 25 from Singapore. Outside the factory, reporters saw trains wrapped in green covering identical to the kind seen in Singapore. Some of the green covering had “E27” printed on it, the same marking seen on the covering of the trains in Singapore.

The defective trains belong to the SMRT’s C151A series. In May 2009, Singapore’s Land Transport Authority awarded the manufacturing contract of the C151A trains to a consortium consisting of Japanese company Kawasaki Heavy Industries Rolling Stock Company (Kawasaki Heavy Industries), its Singapore subsidiary, and CSR Sifang. 22 trains were ordered, totalling S$368 million, equivalent to approximately HK$2.1 billion. Singapore later ordered an extra 13 trains of the same series in 2011. From May 2011 to 2014, 35 trains were shipped to Singapore and put into service.

Full article at https://www.hongkongfp.com/2016/07/...retly-recalls-35-trains-singapore-due-cracks/
 

scroobal

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Honestly the whole World does not order expensive stuff from China and India for an obvious reason. You can have the specs made crystal clear, bring in an independent assessor to confirm spec and quality when it leaves their factories but everyone nows it will beak down faster than you can shout "fucked up".

Should ask our transport minister to fly around in Chinese made jet.
 

JohnTan

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Honestly the whole World does not order expensive stuff from China and India for an obvious reason. You can have the specs made crystal clear, bring in an independent assessor to confirm spec and quality when it leaves their factories but everyone nows it will beak down faster than you can shout "fucked up".

Should ask our transport minister to fly around in Chinese made jet.

If many samsters trust china hands for their massages, why not for their trains and jets?
 

halsey02

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You look like a lantau, you talk like a lantau and you are a lantau.

I thought JT talks like a LJ & is a LJ! ha ha ha ha :biggrin:

Now you know why the problems they are facing, sub-standard parts, sub-standard train coaches!!..I thought they buy them from Alstom ( French, right?) & Kawasaki ( Japanese)...

now, they charge you more fares, give you sub standard hardware don't forget...the fridge magnets is to pull wool over the people's eyes..when will the people ever learn???:rolleyes:
 

yinyang

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If many samsters trust china hands for their massages, why not for their trains and jets?
Only parallel here is the hush hush secrecy. Former is for pleasure (of bodily kind) :p, whilst latter is a diff kettle of fish.
 

Papsmearer

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You can add this to the list of potential death traps let in by the PAP. with sinkies citizens already playing russian roulette everytime they see a doctor or get a medical test done, simply because its not known whether the person looking after them is a 3rd world FT. We now have been playing russian roulette every time we take a MRT train. Structural cracks in body of the train and in the key components means it is just plain luck that no train has derailed or disintergated with a car load of humans inside. Fucking PAP.
 

virus

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according to 2 little birds, the trains were not defective. its a cover for shipment of illicit ciggie n rubber dolls to be sent to the istana in exchange for loads of hi tech electronic parts
 

winners

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Those bastards at LTA who had approved this purchase must definitely be sacked. How can they buy Made-In-China trains, even if they are made with the supervision of Kawasaki? If safety is not a concern for these defects (as they try to cover themselves now), why the need to return them to China for rectification? Wouldn't some welding works be able to resolve the problem? Those LTA bastards still trying to cover up and con the naive public.:oIo:
 

Unrepented

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The only solution is to replace the manufacturer.

China is never known to be good at metallurgy, manufacturing and assembly in a climate with huge variations in temperature and humidity excabates the problems, and even ah tiong worker was trained in japan, and whole assembly plant layout and process in China is a verbitim of that in japan where the training took place, ah tiong worker is still ah tiong worker......sigh.

Once the equipment has basic structural, design, material and assemble issues, it will be firefighting all the way for the customers' maintanence and operations team.

Sad to see this in sinkieland, time and time again.......
 

virus

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Those bastards at LTA who had approved this purchase must definitely be sacked. How can they buy Made-In-China trains, even if they are made with the supervision of Kawasaki? If safety is not a concern for these defects (as they try to cover themselves now), why the need to return them to China for rectification? Wouldn't some welding works be able to resolve the problem? Those LTA bastards still trying to cover up and con the naive public.:oIo:

pls lor.. kawasaki only goot at anything with 2 wheel. any more wheels and they will be at a loss. you have high expectation.
 

crazyMod

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Why they never check before shipping to Singapore? Now must waste money to ship it back. Hush Hush some more.

Ah Loong! Where is thy accountability?
 

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In response to the news of SMRT Trains Ltd (SMRT) secretly sending 35 defective train carriages back to its manufacturer in June, the Land Transport Authority (LTA) has posted on its Facebook page, saying that it had been working closely with the train manufacturer and that the defects are not safety-critical.

Just today, FactWire News Agency, a watchdog news organization released an exclusive report on 35 train carriages belonging to local train operator, SMRT being shipped back to its manufacturer on 12 June due to alleged existing defects.

In its report, FactWire verified and documented the whole transportation after being tipped off by a mainland source in the railway industry that SMRT was secretly shipping defective trains back to mainland China for replacement and repair by manufacturer CSR Sifang Locomotive & Rolling Stock Company Ltd (CSR Sifang).

LTA wrote,

The Land Transport Authority has been working closely with train manufacturer, Kawasaki Heavy Industries & CSR Sifang, on defects that were found on trains purchased under C151A. These defects, found on the train body, are not safety-critical and do not affect the train’s systems or performance. The train manufacturer will be required to make good the defects as part of their warranty.

Trains on the rail network are extensively tested to ensure the safety and reliability of the train. Every train also undergoes a comprehensive regime of static and dynamic testing as well as interface testing to ensure its structural and operational integrity. After the testing is completed, the trains are delivered to Singapore for further testing before they are placed for passenger service.

However, LTA did not mention how long the repairs will take in its Facebook posting.

In response to media queries, SMRT Trains managing director Lee Ling Wee said: "Our engineers discovered that 26 of the 35 trains delivered by the manufacturer had cracks in the structure connecting the car body and the bogie after they were delivered in 2013."

"Since then, we have been working closely with the Land Transport Authority and the manufacturer to rectify the issue.

"The defective trains, which are still under warranty, will be repaired by the manufacturer. All 26 trains will be repaired by 2023."

This means that the "not safety-critical" defects as claimed by LTA, will take 7 years for the China based manufacturer to repair.

Mr Lee did not address the claims made by FactWire that SMRT suspected serious malfunctions occurred on the SMRT’s North South Line in December 2011, were caused by C151A trains manufactured by CSR Sifang. And neither did he dismissed the claim of a subcontractor responsible for supplying train components to CSR Sifang informing FactWire that SMRT significantly reduced the frequency of C151A trains after the malfunctions in 2011 and asked to delay payment for extra trains of the same series.

This raises questions as to when exactly did SMRT got to know of the existing defects in the train carriages.

Response by public by LTA's statement

Netizens were not convinced with LTA's statement made on its Facebook page and lambasted the stat board with further questions.

One commenter in particular, Emily Mok posted a series of questions to LTA.

This raises many questions:

1) If they're not safety-critical, why are they sent back? Who is paying for the transport? is it the LTA/SMRT (which really means us the taxpayers), or the manufacturers?

2) If they do not affect the train's systems or performance, see Q1 again.

3) Even with the self-proclaimed "extensively tested...reliability....comprehensive regime.. static and dynamic testing", our trains are breaking down at an alarming rate. Which means one of 2 things: either you guys are ticking those check marks w/o any checks whatsoever, or your testings standards are irrelevant.

4) Does the LTA / SMRT place profits, and profits alone, above safety of commuters, who incidentally are the ones paying for you to run the operations?

5) If news of this didn't break out online, does the LTA not intend to make this known to the public?

6) Why was this only made known to the public only AFTER news broke out online?

7) On a slightly unrelated note: Why is the CEO of SMART still getting close to $2m a year in remuneration, with such an atrocious string of breakdowns?

LTA did not reply to Mok's questions at the time of publication.


http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/201...itical-smrt-defects-will-be-repaired-by-2023/
 
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