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Chitchat Will Peter Lim Sleep Tonight? He has huge investment in UK

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If PL is deemed a visionary by those who truly are, he wouldn't have been snubbed by Liverpool and instead went to buy Valencia and run it like an S league club side.
 

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If PL is deemed a visionary by those who truly are, he wouldn't have been snubbed by Liverpool and instead went to buy Valencia and run it like an S league club side.

Liverpool big fuck?
It's financials aren't quite heathy anyways.
 

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Liverpool big fuck?
It's financials aren't quite heathy anyways.

U mean there are football clubs with healthy financials?i cant imagine a worse business than a football club where u spend tens and hundreds of millions on expensive players and facilities hope things work out.and hope u recover ur money one way or another in some cold blue hell if ur successful.look at chelsea for example,chelsea must be ranked high high way above the atmosphere than valencia but till date how much money has it made?negative $1.4 billion on a fucking football club!!!!!.if the average soccer punter is a loser,peter lim must be the biggest idiot loser of all.might as well take the 750 mil to the casino.
 
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U mean there are football clubs with healthy financials?i cant imagine a worse business than a football club where u spend tens and hundreds of millions on expensive players and facilities hope things work out.and hope u recover ur money one way or another in some cold blue hell if ur successful.look at chelsea for example,chelsea must be ranked high high way above the atmosphere than valencia but till date how much money has it made?negative $1.4 billion on a fucking football club!!!!!.if the average soccer punter is a loser,peter lim must be the biggest idiot loser of all.might as well take the 750 mil to the casino.

I think he would be a bigger idiot if he took the 750 mil to the casino.
 

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U.K. Won't die la.
Their economy still strong, if they don't exit Europe Union. Then they will be dragged by others lousy and poor Europe countries.

长痛不如短痛。

So short term recession is for the Long term growth. But now U.K. Recession also not confirm . Market react too negative.
 

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U mean there are football clubs with healthy financials?i cant imagine a worse business than a football club where u spend tens and hundreds of millions on expensive players and facilities hope things work out.and hope u recover ur money one way or another in some cold blue hell if ur successful.look at chelsea for example,chelsea must be ranked high high way above the atmosphere than valencia but till date how much money has it made?negative $1.4 billion on a fucking football club!!!!!.if the average soccer punter is a loser,peter lim must be the biggest idiot loser of all.might as well take the 750 mil to the casino.

Haha worse business than football clubs? Dumbfuck morons like you know fuck off....your experience in playing football manager computer game doesn't make you an expert on this topic.

Thaksin Shinawatra also got 'snubbed' by Loserpool.....went on to buy Man City and more than doubled his investment when he sold out.
In any case his 'failed' Liverpool deal was supposedly just a publicity stunt to generated free PR....hailed by marketing gurus as a masterstroke.

Stick to playing computer games moron.
 

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Haha worse business than football clubs? Dumbfuck morons like you know fuck off....your experience in playing football manager computer game doesn't make you an expert on this topic.

Thaksin Shinawatra also got 'snubbed' by Loserpool.....went on to buy Man City and more than doubled his investment when he sold out.
In any case his 'failed' Liverpool deal was supposedly just a publicity stunt to generated free PR....hailed by marketing gurus as a masterstroke.

Stick to playing computer games moron.

lol,clearly im talking to another retard football fan who knows nothing about the world of business.pls kindly show me the balance sheets and financial reports and prospectus of the top 20 or 30 football clubs in the world.i think without the generous donations of billionaires and these club owners,all these clubs would have sunk into the ocean like titanic a hundred years ago......if u think even for a sec in ur bloody mind the matchday tickets and merchandise and broadcasting rights and sponsorships can even come close to covering the operating costs.out of the top 20 clubs in the premier league,these are the creme de la creme of the football world,the heavyweight champions,only 50 percent of the clubs made a profit after operating expenses,the average profit margin was 4 percent,thats barely above breakeven,can u imagine the percentage of failures and losses in the lower ranking leagues where nobody fucking gives a shit about their matches?.......and this is just operating costs,it doesnt even account for transfer costs and paying ur players.....after the buying and selling of players,most of the clubs are deep in the hole and should be technically bankrupt.chelsea in their 9th year finally declared a operating profit of 1.4m,and they still owe abramovich 1.4 billion dollars.i think by the time he finally recoup his losses it will be 3015 and we be playing soccer in space.

who gives a shit if thaksin the scumbag made a profit?its like the greater fool theory,u find a bigger idiot whose willing to take that piece of shit off your hands and u made a profit.u see hundreds of billionaires go into the world of football,how many people have u seen become a billionaire from soccer?football club managers are nothing but glorified butlers for their billionaire club owners.
 
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lol,clearly im talking to another retard football fan who knows nothing about the world of business.pls kindly show me the balance sheets and financial reports and prospectus of the top 20 or 30 football clubs in the world.i think without the generous donations of billionaires and these club owners,all these clubs would have sunk into the ocean like titanic a hundred years ago......if u think even for a sec in ur bloody mind the matchday tickets and merchandise and broadcasting rights and sponsorships can even come close to covering the operating costs.out of the top 20 clubs in the premier league,these are the creme de la creme of the football world,the heavyweight champions,only 50 percent of the clubs made a profit after operating expenses,the average profit margin was 4 percent,thats barely above breakeven,can u imagine the percentage of failures and losses in the lower ranking leagues where nobody fucking gives a shit about their matches?.......and this is just operating costs,it doesnt even account for transfer costs and paying ur players.....after the buying and selling of players,most of the clubs are deep in the hole and should be technically bankrupt.chelsea in their 9th year finally declared a operating profit of 1.4m,and they still owe abramovich 1.4 billion dollars.i think by the time he finally recoup his losses it will be 3015 and we be playing soccer in space.

who gives a shit if thaksin the scumbag made a profit?its like the greater fool theory,u find a bigger idiot whose willing to take that piece of shit off your hands and u made a profit.u see hundreds of billionaires go into the world of football,how many people have u seen become a billionaire from soccer?football club managers are nothing but glorified butlers for their billionaire club owners.

Thank you for proving my point.
Dumbfucks like you cannot think out of the box. You see it as conventional business model talking about balance sheets and financial reports haha sorry but football clubs or sports for that matter ain't it.

For another exanple of how the mega rich wheel and deal I suggest you study the Glazer's purchase of Man Utd.
How much they purported drained from the club from their supposedly zero investment.
 

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Thank you for proving my point.
Dumbfucks like you cannot think out of the box. You see it as conventional business model talking about balance sheets and financial reports haha sorry but football clubs or sports for that matter ain't it.

For another exanple of how the mega rich wheel and deal I suggest you study the Glazer's purchase of Man Utd.
How much they purported drained from the club from their supposedly zero investment.

alright suit urself,lets not talk about cheating,stealing,frauds and scandals alright,u are just stealing whatever these poor buggers have...u can steal and cheat from any business or company,lets talk about football being a business model that actually makes money,because in the aspect it ranks as a big fat ZERO chance in hell.i dunno how u can even make money as a investor or shareholder in a company with only 4 percent operating profit and thats before taxes and interest and depreciation and whatnot.and we are talking about the twenty biggest football clubs,twenty biggest names in the world.imagine if apple,samsung,G.E,wells fargo,Johnson and Johnson made so little profit.might as well stay home and sleep,declare ourselves communists and call it a day.imagine if apple's balance sheet was as crap as Man Utd the most popular football club in the world.u have 300 million fans and u only made $190 million?oh jesus lord have mercy!!!!!!if u came into my living room or shark tank and asked me to invest $1 million in ur football club and u told me u have 300 million customers and u only made $190 million?????GTFO!!!!!!!
 

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alright suit urself,lets not talk about cheating,stealing,frauds and scandals alright,u are just stealing whatever these poor buggers have...u can steal and cheat from any business or company,lets talk about football being a business model that actually makes money,because in the aspect it ranks as a big fat ZERO chance in hell.i dunno how u can even make money as a investor or shareholder in a company with only 4 percent operating profit and thats before taxes and interest and depreciation and whatnot.and we are talking about the twenty biggest football clubs,twenty biggest names in the world.imagine if apple,samsung,G.E,wells fargo,Johnson and Johnson made so little profit.might as well stay home and sleep,declare ourselves communists and call it a day.imagine if apple's balance sheet was as crap as Man Utd the most popular football club in the world.u have 300 million fans and u only made $190 million?oh jesus lord have mercy!!!!!!if u came into my living room or shark tank and asked me to invest $1 million in ur football club and u told me u have 300 million customers and u only made $190 million?????GTFO!!!!!!!

Lanjiao liao.....profit is profit what cheating stealing fraud?
DO YOU AGREE the glazers made money? And by supposedly not investing one cent? If scam then have they been arrested? You dunno what's a leveraged buyout?

People invest in property and make capital gains. People invest in art, in antiques.
How different is that from thaksin's buying and selling of man city?
What traditional and conventional business model you shitting about? We're talking about making money from investing in football clubs.
 

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Lanjiao liao.....profit is profit what cheating stealing fraud?
DO YOU AGREE the glazers made money? And by supposedly not investing one cent? If scam then have they been arrested? You dunno what's a leveraged buyout?

People invest in property and make capital gains. People invest in art, in antiques.
How different is that from thaksin's buying and selling of man city?
What traditional and conventional business model you shitting about? We're talking about making money from investing in football clubs.

theres a difference between investment and speculation,for football club its not even speculation its more like flushing money down the toilet,even gambling in casino have better odds and percentages.its like asking the dealer to hit u on blackjack when u have twenty one,confirm to go bust.

yes LBOs,they were all the rage in the 80s,thats how the movie wall street got influenced,using billions of junk bonds to buy solid companies,chop them up,sell the useful parts and junk the rest and make mega profits,considered the most vile and scumbag tactic.people did it for giant companies of value,why would anyone waste their time on a worthless football club.not surprised if thaksin was involved in such a deal.
 
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..I saw Li Kar Sing appearing on TV appealing to the Brits not to leave the Euro...

Ordinary native blokes in UK are alarmed by sheer umber of foreigners in UK and no matter what Cameron said about plus factors to remain in EU, it did not matter to them. They wanted to take back UK from foreign invasion and Brexit is the result.

If their PM could not sway the Brits to remain in EU, how a chinaman going to do it?
 

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theres a difference between investment and speculation,for football club its not even speculation its more like flushing money down the toilet,even gambling in casino have better odds and percentages.its like asking the dealer to hit u on blackjack when u have twenty one,confirm to go bust.

True, true ... investing in football club is more for status than real investment. Plenty of money throw away but no where to throw.
 

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True, true ... investing in football club is more for status than real investment. Plenty of money throw away but no where to throw.

yes you are only partly correct. these businessmen are not taht stupid to throw money for some prestige. making money is still their no.1 objective. there is alot of stupid people here who does not even know what football clubs are all about esp the buying and selling and all the hogwash proposed by all these people above.
I just laughed my ass off at how immature and stupid alot of the comments are. Screw all these business profits tall stories that narong guy is bullshitting about. he know nuts.
alot of these buyers are "coincidentally" associated with underground links, Mafia or Asian triads ..
buyers of Chelsea club, Birmingham , aston villa, valencia etc. all these businessmen know something alot of of these idiots above masquerading as pseudo intellectuals do not.
The real reason is money laundering and match fixing. other details too sensitive to talk here. when you own the club you are assured of 100% profit in this era of sports betting. you are talking about exploitation in difference in milliseconds time. those who know what I am talking about get the drift. hahahahah
go figure out why all these owners coincidentally all have shady past and all their HQ bases located far away from UK(strong hint)
 
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yes you are only partly correct. these businessmen are not taht stupid to throw money for some prestige. making money is still their no.1 objective. there is alot of stupid people here who does not even know what football clubs are all about esp the buying and selling and all the hogwash proposed by all these people above.
I just laughed my ass off at how immature and stupid alot of the comments are. Screw all these business profits tall stories that narong guy is bullshitting about. he know nuts.
alot of these buyers are "coincidentally" associated with underground links, Mafia or Asian triads ..
buyers of Chelsea club, Birmingham , aston villa, valencia etc. all these businessmen know something alot of of these idiots above masquerading as pseudo intellectuals do not.
The real reason is money laundering and match fixing. other details too sensitive to talk here. when you own the club you are assured of 100% profit in this era of sports betting. you are talking about exploitation in difference in milliseconds time. those who know what I am talking about get the drift. hahahahah
go figure out why all these owners coincidentally all have shady past and all located far away from UK

Thank you.
Again you proved my point.
Making money is upmost important to these rich folks.
That's how they got rich. They won't throw money unless it can get them something in return.

This thread started by TS suggesting PL would lose his shirt over brexit.
My point is just to show shrewd tycoons seldom make bad investments.
Your argument as usual without ptoof we just take your word for it as usual.
I used what is on record to counter dumbo's reply regarding business model income vs expenditure BS.
 

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Thank you.
Again you proved my point.
Making money is upmost important to these rich folks.
That's how they got rich. They won't throw money unless it can get them something in return.

this answer just makes me want to laugh and weep.yes when businessman invest in something they expect a return on investment or a profit,when u invest in a football club "company" not only is it not making a profit,its bleeding out of its ass and costing u a bomb every year,what exactly are u getting in return lol?are they going to say yes pls continue losing tens and tens of my millions,im getting something in return?

what numero uno says is right,what businessman or billionaires or entrepreneurs or industrialists or tycoons cares most is their MONEY,how to make more money,how NOT to lose money,even Donald trump doesnt lose money,his backers and investors lose money BIG TIME but he doesnt.if they analyse a business plan and their balance sheet and see its a big SINKHOLE do u think they will go near it?WTF have u guys every watched the show shark tank or dragons den?

the top ten most profitable football clubs in the world.....Number one Man United 190m,number ten tottenham 73m......LMAO do u know how pathetic is that?ikan billis profits.i own shares in this small unknown china company china merchant pacific,toll road company, 2 bil cap,and they made 100 million last year in profits and 391 million in revenues!!!!!!Abromovich pumped nearly $2 billion into one football club alone and u telling me the most profitable football club in the world made only 190m last year?????the money flowing in from all these billionaire football club owners combined is probably like 100 billion in all these worthless football clubs and its amazing if they got any money back!!!!!its almost like winning the lottery if ur club makes money!!!!!

u talk about thaksin and all that bullshit making money from flipping,let me ask u how much did it cost him to run the football club when he owned it?$10 million a year?$20 million a year?when u take away the cost from the profit,how much did he make??????

did u know the idiot who bought man city over from him $210 million?he went on to lose another $535 million plus another $200 million on facility upgrades managing that piece of shit football club!!!LMAO!!!!!thank god they are wealthy arab princes with oil monies,otherwise how to afford $535 million losses??????
 
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A couple of points:

1. These owners made it big time $$$$, they aren't fools;

2. They are into ownership of Football clubs to make more $ and at the same time 'wash' their $ that can't see sunlight;

3. Chinamen very active recently. They need these clubs to 'wash' their money. And yes, 'kelong' will be the main activity
 

frenchbriefs

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sigh of course, and they invest in the premier league football clubs,the most prominent,the most scrutinised football clubs in the world,under the watchful eye of FIFA......u think if these people want to wash money maybe they ask ho jinx and temasek holdings or open a offshore account in Panama or some shell company no one has ever heard of.

and these billionaires want their name to be splash on newspaper every week in football news,if they are laundering money dont u think they want to keep a low profile?
 

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A couple of points:

1. These owners made it big time $$$$, they aren't fools;

2. They are into ownership of Football clubs to make more $ and at the same time 'wash' their $ that can't see sunlight;

3. Chinamen very active recently. They need these clubs to 'wash' their money. And yes, 'kelong' will be the main activity

Your points are valid. We are no billionaires and will never know the mindset of one. Whether they seek glory or fame, profits, status, ideals...etc... we, or at least I, will never know.
 
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