Serious Hanging of Kho Jabing...the other perspective.

blissquek · Jun 2, 2016

Kho Jabing is Dead...there are two parts to this saga.

Part One.

Crime and punishment...An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Nearly everyone will condemn the June 2008 brutal killing of the victim with his skull fractured into 14 parts.
Nearly everyone will have no doubt about his guilt .The due process of the judicial system goes into motion,the initial trail and then with the death sentence handed down, appeals and the final Presidential clemency appeal.

He was given the mandatory death sentence in 2010.
.Jabing"s family will accept the fact that Jabing will have to pay with his life for taking away someone else's life.

Rightfully we see justice takes its course with the hangman putting the noose around Jabing's neck and the case comes to a clinical close.

This is the proper account to the victim"s family.

Part Two. - the other perspective - Anguish and delusion.

1. In 2008, Kho Jabing did not set out to murder the China construction worker, Cao Ruyin . He did not know the victim or met the victim before. He did not bring any murder weapon that day. A tree branch was lying nearby and he used it to bash the victim's head.It was not a premeditated murder. The killing wasn't planned beforehand.

In short, it was a robbery attempt that bungled.

2. Then comes the Amendments to the mandatory death penalty regime .It became effective on 1/1/2013. The High Court re-sentenced Kho Jabing to life imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane. A life-line was given to Kho Jabing and his family and restore our faith in humanity.

3. Here. the anguish and delusion set in.
Kho was then again re-sentenced on a sentence that was handed down by the High Court.
Of the five judges, two were against the Death sentence. It brings out the basic relevant fact that there is no consensus or total agreement on what is the appropriate sentence. And when the death sentence is again passed down, the second time, Kho Jabing lawyers, Alfred Dodwell and Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss tried valiantly to make their last minute appeal.This is Kho Jabing's right of Appeal.

4. To Kho Jabing"s family members and his parents, it seems that they have been deluded and tormented when the death sentence is passed the SECOND TIME.Their anguish is prolonged with this torment that Kho will go to see the hangman .It is their false belief that they attached validity to the Amendments to the Mandatory death penalty; and that it would spared their son's life, especially when the death sentence is commuted to life imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane.

Perhaps. Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon can define to Kho Jabing's family that the system did not betray them with this false hope, even when his judges differ on the the view what is the appropriate sentence.

This would be the proper account to Kho Jabing's family.

halsey02 · Jun 2, 2016

In short, stop wasting time, very simple....You have MONEY, POWER & POSITION....you can see the difference right? no need, to argus, discuss & talk, till the "cows come home"....the person is HUNG....& even his own government doesn't care....so!

scroobal · Jun 2, 2016

It went beyond a robbery when the victim was bludgeoned so badly that the victim sustained 14 fractures of the skull and it cracked open. It harder to crack a skull than an arm or a leg, and in this 14 fractures. Within the first blow and the first fracture the victim would have incapacitated and would not be able to resist.

If you have attended 12 years of schooling, you would have come across dozens of schoolmates having suffered various fractures of the limbs, nose, fingers etc. Very rarely you come across one that sustained a fractured skull even after hitting his or her head.

Go read the judgement by the court of appeal - its the viciousness that led to him to be hanged.

The second perspective also suggest that one is watching too much TV shows where murder is portrayed as involving extensive planning, use of dangerous weapon, etc. In movies and tv shows to create suspense and you cannot just show the actual murder with a tree branch as it will last maybe for 10 minutes. It cannot be sold as nobody will watch it.

blissquek said:
Part Two. - the other perspective - Anguish and delusion.

1. In 2008, Kho Jabing did not set out to murder the China construction worker, Cao Ruyin . He did not know the victim or met the victim before. He did not bring any murder weapon that day. A tree branch was lying nearby and he used it to bash the victim's head.It was not a premeditated murder. The killing wasn't planned beforehand.

In short, it was a robbery attempt that bungled.

2. Then comes the Amendments to the mandatory death penalty regime .It became effective on 1/1/2013. The High Court re-sentenced Kho Jabing to life imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane. A life-line was given to Kho Jabing and his family and restore our faith in humanity.

3. Here. the anguish and delusion set in.
Kho was then again re-sentenced on a sentence that was handed down by the High Court.
Of the five judges, two were against the Death sentence. It brings out the basic relevant fact that there is no consensus or total agreement on what is the appropriate sentence. And when the death sentence is again passed down, the second time, Kho Jabing lawyers, Alfred Dodwell and Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss tried valiantly to make their last minute appeal.This is Kho Jabing's right of Appeal.

4. To Kho Jabing"s family members and his parents, it seems that they have been deluded and tormented when the death sentence is passed the SECOND TIME.Their anguish is prolonged with this torment that Kho will go to see the hangman .It is their false belief that they attached validity to the Amendments to the Mandatory death penalty; and that it would spared their son's life, especially when the death sentence is commuted to life imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane.

Perhaps. Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon can define to Kho Jabing's family that the system did not betray them with this false hope, even when his judges differ on the the view what is the appropriate sentence.

This would be the proper account to Kho Jabing's family.

blissquek · Jun 2, 2016

Noted..Your comments on drama on Movies, serials ..etc. but the point is there is area of doubts amongst the judges on sentencing... Guilt has been established in Part I and the case will close without fanfare instead of deluding the family that there is a life-line.

Leongsam · Jun 2, 2016

Singapore is one of the few places in the world where crims receive their just dues. Let's keep it that way.

scroobal · Jun 2, 2016

It better to have more than one judge passing judgement on capital cases rather than one. It also means that there is a challenge of getting a unanimous decision. So it the majority decision that prevails.

Here the timeline for the key events to show what transpired thru the judicial process
2010 - Convicted and sentences to hang
2011 - Appeal heard by Court of Appeal and dismissed
2013 - Penal Code amended and re-sentecned to life imprisonment. Prosecution appeals
2015 - Appeal heard and allowed. re-sentenced to be hanged

In essence the court of appeal sat twice in 2011 and 2015 and reaffirmed the sentence.

blissquek said:
Noted..Your comments on drama on Movies, serials ..etc. but the point is there is area of doubts amongst the judges on sentencing... Guilt has been established in Part I and the case will close without fanfare instead of deluding the family that there is a life-line.

syed putra · Jun 2, 2016

Ibans are head hunters. The keep the skull of their victims, like predator.why did kho jabing rob the chinaman. Was he sacked or maybe he was not paid by his employers. Its impossible for a iban guy to be in singapore without money.

GoldenDragon · Jun 2, 2016

Accused showed no mercy during the crime. He was out to kill. No one of sound mind would say otherwise. He fully deserve the death penalty.

Thick Face Black Heart · Jun 2, 2016

Leongsam said:
Singapore is one of the few places in the world where crims receive their just dues. Let's keep it that way.

Absolutely agree

GoldenDragon · Jun 2, 2016

Thick Face Black Heart said:
Absolutely agree

..... and I am with you on this.

The Alpha and omega

Force 136 · Jun 2, 2016

14 fractures to the victim's skull - this Iban must have got possessed by the spirits of his headhunting ancestors.......

South East Asian brown peoples are very nice people until they are possessed and run Amok killing everyone in sight....... it's a well documented occurrence which gave rise to the term "to run amuck...."

red amoeba · Jun 3, 2016

Leongsam said:
Singapore is one of the few places in the world where crims receive their just dues. Let's keep it that way.

there do exist exceptions - like what is stated in the hangman book. But by and large, your statement is true.

eatshitndie · Jun 3, 2016

who is weeping for the victim and family, especially when the killing went way beyond viciousness and gruesomeness? whether the victim was a hated or despicable tiong, neh or pinoy, complete destruction of any body part beyond murder deserves more than hanging. it should be death by a thousand cuts. murderers will seriously think twice if sg institutes execution by slow fraying and or cutting up body parts piece by piece while prisoner is fully conscious. the murder rate will plummet to zero overnight.

fanta · Jun 3, 2016

PART THREE

Cao Ruyin is brutally killed, those people did not fight for Cao Ruyin but his killer Kho Jabing.

PART FOUR

Kho Jabing struck Cao Ruyin's head multiple times until it fractured into 14 parts. That is intent to kill and not hurt. He is lucky he was not sentenced to death 14 times.

PART FIVE

Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss and Alfred Dodwell was trying to gain some fame by doing what M.Ravi did for Yong Vui Kong. But Kho Jabing is a brutal killer while Yong Vui Kong is a teenage drug courier.

blissquek said:
Kho Jabing is Dead...there are two parts to this saga.

Part One.

Crime and punishment...An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.

Nearly everyone will condemn the June 2008 brutal killing of the victim with his skull fractured into 14 parts.
Nearly everyone will have no doubt about his guilt .The due process of the judicial system goes into motion,the initial trail and then with the death sentence handed down, appeals and the final Presidential clemency appeal.

He was given the mandatory death sentence in 2010.
.Jabing"s family will accept the fact that Jabing will have to pay with his life for taking away someone else's life.

Rightfully we see justice takes its course with the hangman putting the noose around Jabing's neck and the case comes to a clinical close.

This is the proper account to the victim"s family.

Part Two. - the other perspective - Anguish and delusion.

1. In 2008, Kho Jabing did not set out to murder the China construction worker, Cao Ruyin . He did not know the victim or met the victim before. He did not bring any murder weapon that day. A tree branch was lying nearby and he used it to bash the victim's head.It was not a premeditated murder. The killing wasn't planned beforehand.

In short, it was a robbery attempt that bungled.

2. Then comes the Amendments to the mandatory death penalty regime .It became effective on 1/1/2013. The High Court re-sentenced Kho Jabing to life imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane. A life-line was given to Kho Jabing and his family and restore our faith in humanity.

3. Here. the anguish and delusion set in.
Kho was then again re-sentenced on a sentence that was handed down by the High Court.
Of the five judges, two were against the Death sentence. It brings out the basic relevant fact that there is no consensus or total agreement on what is the appropriate sentence. And when the death sentence is again passed down, the second time, Kho Jabing lawyers, Alfred Dodwell and Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss tried valiantly to make their last minute appeal.This is Kho Jabing's right of Appeal.

4. To Kho Jabing"s family members and his parents, it seems that they have been deluded and tormented when the death sentence is passed the SECOND TIME.Their anguish is prolonged with this torment that Kho will go to see the hangman .It is their false belief that they attached validity to the Amendments to the Mandatory death penalty; and that it would spared their son's life, especially when the death sentence is commuted to life imprisonment and 24 strokes of the cane.

Perhaps. Chief Justice Sundaresh Menon can define to Kho Jabing's family that the system did not betray them with this false hope, even when his judges differ on the the view what is the appropriate sentence.

This would be the proper account to Kho Jabing's family.

songsongjurong · Jun 3, 2016

how many more death row inmate awaits appt w bayi hangman? jus one go mass hanging ,HOTA these buggers

gingerlyn · Jun 3, 2016

songsongjurong said:
how many more death row inmate awaits appt w bayi hangman? jus one go mass hanging ,HOTA these buggers

not sure if Bayi will retire soon and any replacement?

winnipegjets · Jun 3, 2016

scroobal said:
It went beyond a robbery when the victim was bludgeoned so badly that the victim sustained 14 fractures of the skull and it cracked open. It harder to crack a skull than an arm or a leg, and in this 14 fractures. Within the first blow and the first fracture the victim would have incapacitated and would not be able to resist.

If you have attended 12 years of schooling, you would have come across dozens of schoolmates having suffered various fractures of the limbs, nose, fingers etc. Very rarely you come across one that sustained a fractured skull even after hitting his or her head.

Go read the judgement by the court of appeal - its the viciousness that led to him to be hanged.

Since when viciousness of the actions overrides the intent determines the sentence?

The second perspective also suggest that one is watching too much TV shows where murder is portrayed as involving extensive planning, use of dangerous weapon, etc. In movies and tv shows to create suspense and you cannot just show the actual murder with a tree branch as it will last maybe for 10 minutes. It cannot be sold as nobody will watch it.

We have a court that does as it pleases, subject to the approval of the government. Our judges are laughing stocks. The interpretation of the laws changes with each judgment. There is NO consistent with its application.
Stop defending the indefensible.

winnipegjets · Jun 3, 2016

fanta said:
PART THREE

Cao Ruyin is brutally killed, those people did not fight for Cao Ruyin but his killer Kho Jabing.

Pedestrians get killed by careless drivers. Should these drivers be hanged too if your logic carries?
The intent should be the primary determinant of the sentencing.

PART FOUR

Kho Jabing struck Cao Ruyin's head multiple times until it fractured into 14 parts. That is intent to kill and not hurt. He is lucky he was not sentenced to death 14 times.

That's a layman interpretation of the law. If we intend for layman to be judges, then let's go to a jury system.

Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss and Alfred Dodwell was trying to gain some fame by doing what M.Ravi did for Yong Vui Kong. But Kho Jabing is a brutal killer while Yong Vui Kong is a teenage drug courier.

Just because you or the AGC say so?

winnipegjets · Jun 3, 2016

eatshitndie said:
who is weeping for the victim and family, especially when the killing went way beyond viciousness and gruesomeness? whether the victim was a hated or despicable tiong, neh or pinoy, complete destruction of any body part beyond murder deserves more than hanging. it should be death by a thousand cuts. murderers will seriously think twice if sg institutes execution by slow fraying and or cutting up body parts piece by piece while prisoner is fully conscious. the murder rate will plummet to zero overnight.

Going by your logic, all crimes - be they petty or serious - will be punishable with the death sentence will totally eliminate crime.

winnipegjets · Jun 3, 2016

GoldenDragon said:
Accused showed no mercy during the crime. He was out to kill. No one of sound mind would say otherwise. He fully deserve the death penalty.

When a driver drinks and drive, his intent is to kill too, going by your logic. So a drunk driver who kills a pedestrian should be hanged too.

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