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Serious Record No of FTs but Rents Kept Falling!

Pinkieslut

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Singapore rents driven lower despite rising numbers of foreign workers

Singapore's residential rents are falling at a precipitous rate - and the reason could be a sea-change in the make-up of the city-state's expat workers.

The drops in Singapore's residential rents has - mistakenly - being attributed to the government turning off the spigot of foreign workers flowing into the country. In fact, the number of foreign workers continues to rise, with the figure, excluding domestic helpers, up more than 22,000 last year, according to data from the Ministry of Manpower. While the growth rate has certainly tapered down from a peak of nearly 149,000 added in 2008, those fresh additions will still be looking for housing.

But there's no mistaking that rents have come down, with the official rental price indexes showing declines in the neighborhood of 10 percent since 2013, while anecdotally, much larger drops are bandied about.

One landlord is citing a bigger drop. Alexander Karolik Shlaen, an economist and CEO of Panache Management, a luxury brands and real estate investment adviser, said a unit he owns has seen a rent drop of 40 percent, from 13,000 Singapore dollars (around $9,400) a month in 2008, down to under 8,000 Singapore dollars now.

The sharp declines may be because while foreign workers are still flowing into the country, they don't appear to be quite as flush with cash as the previous waves.

"We are seeing more foreigners looking to rent," Kelly Tang Robinson, an agent with Land Vista Property Network told CNBC.

But she noted that their work has changed, with more workers from the pharmaceutical and chemical industries and far fewer from the well-paid financial sector.

"There's almost like zero relocation here [among bankers]," she said, noting that she's generally seeing some bankers already here seeking new apartments, but many are leaving the country.

The Ministry of Manpower declined to provide data on professions and salaries of arriving foreign workers.

But other agents have seen a shift in the makeup of arriving workers.

Tourists take in a cable car take in the sights at Sentosa Island, Singapore
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Tourists take in a cable car take in the sights at Sentosa Island, Singapore

At the high end of the market, Chandran V.R., managing director at luxury property agent CRE, said that previously, he saw more expatriates coming from the financial industry, but now "they're from everywhere."

Chandran also noted that he's seeing few expatriate clients with "packages" of benefits, which generally include paid housing, from their employer.

Rikvin Singapore, which helps companies set up shop in Singapore and apply for work permits, is also seeing fewer bankers.

"Banks themselves have cut out foreigners," said Satish Bakhda, chief operations officer at the company, noting that there has been signs the government has been pressing the sector to use local workers.

"With the banking economy not doing so well, it's better to use locals as they have to pay more for foreigners."

Several big international banks, such as Barclays and Nomura, have also been laying off workers globally, with some of those job cuts touching Singapore's financial sector.

Additionally, Bakhda noted that more workers are "leaving than coming" in Singapore's hard-hit oil sector amid the long downturn in crude prices.

Bakhda believes new work permits for foreigners may be concentrated in the lower paid "S Pass" category, rather than the "employment pass" category. The minimum salary for an S Pass is at least 2,200 Singapore dollars a month, but employers must pay a levy to obtain one for their employee, while for an employment pass, the required monthly salary is at least 3,300 Singapore dollars or more if the employee is more experienced.

At the same time that the numbers of well-paid prospective tenants are growing more slowly, the number of housing units hitting the market is surging. Around 20,000 private residential units are set to be completed in the last three quarters of 2016, with around another 15,000 each in 2017 and 2018.

Rents are set to head even lower, with the numbers of new units exceeding the number of new arrivals, Chandran noted. Additionally, with some of those units' developers likely to rent the apartments if they can't be sold, tenant-seeking "owners are going to be competing with developers," he said.

While some top-end properties, such as landed bungalows, have held on to premium prices, landlords are offering "attractive prices" to keep units occupied, he said.

For example, Four Seasons Park, a condominium in tony District 10, saw a 2,200-2,300 square-foot unit rent for 7,800 Singapore dollars a month in April; that's down from some similarly sized units garnering over 10,000 Singapore dollars a month in 2013-15.
 

frenchbriefs

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looks like the glut in private property sector is finally coming to fruition......plus the declining workers in the banking sector,PAP is now importing poorer and poorer quality from the already poor quality trash.pretty soon singapore will be a kampong of hdb slum and ghetto dwellers.

also this seems to be proof that when the jobs and money dry up......at least in the banking sector,the humber of foreign economic refugees dry up too.

looks like the fun time is over,theres no need for sinkies to vote PAP out,one good recession or economic depression we can kiss PAP and ft ass bye bye.
 

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Rents for pinoy-only HDB properties are holding up well on sites like Carousell. Sinkie landlords are also doing well renting out to enterprising PRCs who operate home-base businesses. I think those rents just went up.
 

borom

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Could it be that more and more PR's and citizenships are given to these precious foreigners -so they can now buy HDB instead of renting.

These PR's (foreign passport holders) and new citizens will then quickly (and many claimed illegally) rent out their their new HDB to the folks from their own countries.
This is what the WP should ask in Parliament -how many HDB flats were sold to new citizens and PRs?
How many % of the voters in BB are new citizens?
Why govt statistics always lump PR's/citizens as one category?
How many % responsible for the hepatitis death in SGH are foreigners?
IF Chen SM wants to challenge LTK, he should start asking some of these questions.
 
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melzp

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dont waste your time on this useless WP.
They dont hv the balls to ask hard ?? you and I can think of.
 

JHolmesJr

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The vicious circle is complete….hire substandard fuckwits from india, phils for a fraction of the salary the job should command….then scratch heads and wonder why spending in malls, on rents and on luxury brands has dropped.
 

Hans168

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Could it be that more and more PR's and citizenships are given to these precious foreigners -so they can now buy HDB instead of renting.

These PR's (foreign passport holders) and new citizens will then quickly (and many claimed illegally) rent out their their new HDB to the folks from their own countries.
This is what the WP should ask in Parliament -how many HDB flats were sold to new citizens and PRs?
How many % of the voters in BB are new citizens?
Why govt statistics always lump PR's/citizens as one category?
How many % responsible for the hepatitis death in SGH are foreigners?
IF Chen SM wants to challenge LTK, he should start asking some of these questions.

spot on....... datz why PAP won last GE with votes of 24800o new shitizens.......... where do you think they are staying? camping tents in East Coast?
 

Hans168

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The vicious circle is complete….hire substandard fuckwits from india, phils for a fraction of the salary the job should command….then scratch heads and wonder why spending in malls, on rents and on luxury brands has dropped.

scholars cannot find real answers in their text books..........
 

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looks like the glut in private property sector is finally coming to fruition......plus the declining workers in the banking sector,PAP is now importing poorer and poorer quality from the already poor quality trash.pretty soon singapore will be a kampong of hdb slum and ghetto dwellers.

also this seems to be proof that when the jobs and money dry up......at least in the banking sector,the humber of foreign economic refugees dry up too.

looks like the fun time is over,theres no need for sinkies to vote PAP out,one good recession or economic depression we can kiss PAP and ft ass bye bye.

When you want to post about real estate and private sector glut, go and do your research first. Or else you are shooting out of your ass. All these morons they interviewed wringing their hands about how rental rates have dropped are 2 years behind the times. The savvy real estate investor has already turn his rental properties into Airbnb and VRBO. The singapore market is perfect for this. The hotel rooms rates are so high here. And to get a 2 bedroom condo in a decent part of town for $250 per night beats any hotel rate. There is no reason you cannot rent out your condo for at least $250 per night. And it does not have to be a luxury high end condo with expensive finishings either. I have done that for 2 of my properties. When the lease expired with the prior expat tenants, I could not get the same rate on the market. I converted 2 of them to AirBnB. I get paid by AirBnB, never had a problem. One is a 3 room, i rented each room to AirBnB. The other one, I rented the entire apt. out to AirBnB. The vacancy rate is low, and a little seasonal, but still worth doing.
 

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When you want to post about real estate and private sector glut, go and do your research first. Or else you are shooting out of your ass. All these morons they interviewed wringing their hands about how rental rates have dropped are 2 years behind the times. The savvy real estate investor has already turn his rental properties into Airbnb and VRBO. The singapore market is perfect for this. The hotel rooms rates are so high here. And to get a 2 bedroom condo in a decent part of town for $250 per night beats any hotel rate. There is no reason you cannot rent out your condo for at least $250 per night. And it does not have to be a luxury high end condo with expensive finishings either. I have done that for 2 of my properties. When the lease expired with the prior expat tenants, I could not get the same rate on the market. I converted 2 of them to AirBnB. I get paid by AirBnB, never had a problem. One is a 3 room, i rented each room to AirBnB. The other one, I rented the entire apt. out to AirBnB. The vacancy rate is low, and a little seasonal, but still worth doing.

How you do the housekeeping for your properties rented out under AirBnB? Daily housekeeping like hotel? Any complaints from your neighbours?
 

JohnTan

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Rents go down because sinkies are dumb enough to believe that foreigners will run if the rents remain the same or go up. Many enterprising foreigners are renting HDB or condo units for their home-based enterprises and they don't like to relocate. You can read about their activities from time to time in local forums or in the newspapers when police raid those places. Hence, I never lower the rents on my properties. I always successfully call their bluff and make them pay up. Sometimes, I even get the authorities to raid them and it's a good excuse to forfeit their deposit and get commendation for being a good citizen.
 

ginfreely

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Rents go down because sinkies are dumb enough to believe that foreigners will run if the rents remain the same or go up. Many enterprising foreigners are renting HDB or condo units for their home-based enterprises and they don't like to relocate. You can read about their activities from time to time in local forums or in the newspapers when police raid those places. Hence, I never lower the rents on my properties. I always successfully call their bluff and make them pay up. Sometimes, I even get the authorities to raid them and it's a good excuse to forfeit their deposit and get commendation for being a good citizen.

Very good to raid them to stop illegal subletting. Yes many sinkie landlords simply trust their agents words to accept lower rental, pulling down the rest of the units. Agents of course don't mind rental that is a few hundred lower as their half month commission is not much affected by it . I also had one agent who did that and you have to stick to your rental rate as they will push you for it to close their deal easily.
 
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johnny333

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When you want to post about real estate and private sector glut, go and do your research first. Or else you are shooting out of your ass. All these morons they interviewed wringing their hands about how rental rates have dropped are 2 years behind the times. The savvy real estate investor has already turn his rental properties into Airbnb and VRBO. The singapore market is perfect for this. The hotel rooms rates are so high here. And to get a 2 bedroom condo in a decent part of town for $250 per night beats any hotel rate. There is no reason you cannot rent out your condo for at least $250 per night. And it does not have to be a luxury high end condo with expensive finishings either. I have done that for 2 of my properties. When the lease expired with the prior expat tenants, I could not get the same rate on the market. I converted 2 of them to AirBnB. I get paid by AirBnB, never had a problem. One is a 3 room, i rented each room to AirBnB. The other one, I rented the entire apt. out to AirBnB. The vacancy rate is low, and a little seasonal, but still worth doing.

Heard that those who own property in Lucky Plaza are doing this. The property sits in a good location in Orchard Road.

https://www.luckyplaza.sg/how-to-travel-to-lucky-plaza-using-public-transport/
 

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How you do the housekeeping for your properties rented out under AirBnB? Daily housekeeping like hotel? Any complaints from your neighbours?

You have a maid do it. If you have your own maid, you send her to the apt and let her spend 1-2 hrs there. Replenish with cleaning supplies and toileteries. If convenient to MRT, she can go there herself. Usually, I already have the cleaning supplies at the apt, (eg. mop. bucket, broom, etc). when the tenant wants to clean up, they can use it. Otherwise, the maid will use those to clean. She will bring toilet paper, clean, mop, do the laundry like wash the bed sheets and pillow cases. If you want a good thorough cleaning, then at least 2 hrs. But this only happens when the tenant moves out. Its not a daily service. There is also a cleaning fee that I charge for the tenant. Unfortunately, its not a lot. Its like only $21. In other countries, the cleaning fee can be $100. Its a one time cleaning fee charge. Neighbours don't complain, they are doing the same too. Or at least they have regular tenants. If its only men going in and out of the apt at all hours of the day, then you will see the neighbours start to complain.
 

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Very good to raid them to stop illegal subletting. Yes many sinkie landlords simply trust their agents words to accept lower rental, pulling down the rest of the units. Agents of course don't mind rental that is a few hundred lower as their half month commission is not much affected by it . I also had one agent who did that and you have to stick to your rental rate as they will push you for it to close their deal easily.

Agents are the biggest rip offs. when you have criagslist, airbnb, propertyguru, etc, why use an agent. I have had more problems with agents then with tenants.
 

Hans168

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How you do the housekeeping for your properties rented out under AirBnB? Daily housekeeping like hotel? Any complaints from your neighbours?

get your maid to do it like f trash Premanjali Gupta who called sgian SHITS after studying in our U for free and getting a good paying job with Synthesio
........ she was renting out a condo room with maid service thrown in.......... which is illegal BUT then local laws are for locals only?
 

Hans168

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Agents are the biggest rip offs. when you have criagslist, airbnb, propertyguru, etc, why use an agent. I have had more problems with agents then with tenants.

agent are leeches returning NO real value.......insurance bums. prop agents. EAs too
 
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