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Chitchat 1969 - May 13 - what were you doing then?
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Why are you bringing up MAY 13, 1969?.....it started across the straits in Kuala Lumpur....at "chee cheong kai" KL....known as Petaling Street...from an oral history I had from a Malaysian Friend many years ago...to long to relate, the Malays burned down Petaling Street....
As far it is for me, I will always remember the date not only historically... but .my rear has not forgotten the hiding I got from being out when there was a curfew on!!!
As far it is for me, I will always remember the date not only historically... but .my rear has not forgotten the hiding I got from being out when there was a curfew on!!!
Either not alive yet or drinking ahem sucking beer from a bottle .....
http://www.dreamstime.com/stock-photo-pretty-baby-boy-drinking-milk-bottle-image57189409
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actuarry started at kampung baru ...
Great thread bro (F136),
this riots was unusual as there is very little material on this and it was kept under wraps even till now. Even though it was spillover from riots that began in Kg Baru in KL, there were 4 deaths and 80 people injured, the details are very scanty. The motives are many for this situation. Singapore had become independent and unlike the 1964 riots where old man blamed Malaysia and the UMNO hot heads primarily Syed Albar, this one was different and very much internal despite the trigger being the riots in KL. The other bandied around motive was that the Chinese were the main antagonist while it was the opposite in the case in KL where death toll were mainly featured Chinese.
Interestingly there are more material on the 1854 Hokkein-Teochew riots. Not sure if there an brothers who served in the forces at that time.
this riots was unusual as there is very little material on this and it was kept under wraps even till now. Even though it was spillover from riots that began in Kg Baru in KL, there were 4 deaths and 80 people injured, the details are very scanty. The motives are many for this situation. Singapore had become independent and unlike the 1964 riots where old man blamed Malaysia and the UMNO hot heads primarily Syed Albar, this one was different and very much internal despite the trigger being the riots in KL. The other bandied around motive was that the Chinese were the main antagonist while it was the opposite in the case in KL where death toll were mainly featured Chinese.
Interestingly there are more material on the 1854 Hokkein-Teochew riots. Not sure if there an brothers who served in the forces at that time.
Though the Official death toll in the KL riots was 193, some people estimated that it could be 4000.
There were cases of Security Forces killed in Friendly fire, whether intentionally or otherwise. They were biased towards their own ethnic group. The Malaysian govt finally brought in the Sarawak Rangers who restored order because they were more disciplined than the Malay Regiments.
Heard our people mounted an operation to smuggle the Malaysian DAP MP Devan Nair out to Singapore using a boat across the Straits.....
There were cases of Security Forces killed in Friendly fire, whether intentionally or otherwise. They were biased towards their own ethnic group. The Malaysian govt finally brought in the Sarawak Rangers who restored order because they were more disciplined than the Malay Regiments.
Heard our people mounted an operation to smuggle the Malaysian DAP MP Devan Nair out to Singapore using a boat across the Straits.....
May 13 was actuslly a coup in disguise.
Tun andul razak instigated it to over5hrow tunku abdul rahmsn who was seen as ignoringmalay poverty and too fr8ndly to chinese.
The moment tun razak became PM, he brought in dr m who was expelled from umno earlier for his extreme views.
The riots were mostly in KL. In other tiwns and cities, mostly quiet.
The riot started when alliance oarty lost huge number of seats to opposition, mostly DAP., PAS and perikatan.
DAP supporters started to organise rallly to celebrate and telling malays to"balik kampung".
In 2008, when opposition won big again, everyone thought another riot on the way as BN lost 5 states. And lky drove from singapore to meet all the new winners and najib's wife rosmah. Very weird.
Tun andul razak instigated it to over5hrow tunku abdul rahmsn who was seen as ignoringmalay poverty and too fr8ndly to chinese.
The moment tun razak became PM, he brought in dr m who was expelled from umno earlier for his extreme views.
The riots were mostly in KL. In other tiwns and cities, mostly quiet.
The riot started when alliance oarty lost huge number of seats to opposition, mostly DAP., PAS and perikatan.
DAP supporters started to organise rallly to celebrate and telling malays to"balik kampung".
In 2008, when opposition won big again, everyone thought another riot on the way as BN lost 5 states. And lky drove from singapore to meet all the new winners and najib's wife rosmah. Very weird.
From Wikipedia :
. On the morning of 13 May, Malays began to gather at the residence of Selangor Menteri Besar Dato' Harun Haji Idris in Jalan Raja Muda on the edge of Kampung Baru, although some were there as early as Sunday evening. The Malays came from various parts of Selangor such as Morib (Harun's constituency) and Banting, as well as parts of Perak.[14] According to the NOC official report, at around 6 pm, fist fights broke out in Setapak between a group of Malays from Gombak travelling to the rally and Chinese bystanders who taunted them, and this escalated into bottle and stone throwing.[15] News of the fighting then reached the gathering crowd in Jalan Raja Muda, and shortly before 6.30 pm, many Malays broke off from its rallying point at the Chief Minister's house and headed through adjoining Chinese sections.[7] The Malays, armed with parangs and kris, burned cars and shops, killed and looted in the Chinese areas;[7] according to Time, at least eight Chinese were killed in the initial attack.[16] Once violence broke out, it spread rapidly and uncontrollably throughout the city within 45 minutes,[1] to Jalan Campbell, Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman (Batu Road), Kampung Datuk Keramat, Kampung Pandan, Cheras and Kampung Kerunchi.[17]
Retaliations and armed response[edit]
According to John Slimming, who wrote an account of the riot in 1969, the Chinese were taken by surprise and did not retaliate for more than an hour.[18] The NOC official report, however, suggested that Chinese secret society elements had prepared for trouble and were in action when the violence started in Kampung Baru.[19] In Batu Road, Chinese and Indian shopkeepers began to form themselves into an improvised defence force, while a Malay mob attempting to storm the Chow Kit Road area were met with armed secret society gang members and ran.[15] The Chinese attacked Malays who were found in Chinese areas, and Malay patrons in cinemas were singled out and killed.[20] They also attempted to burn down the UMNO headquarters in Batu Road and besieged Salak South Police Station.
Early in the evening the rioters were met by police, who used tear gas in an attempt to control them. A 24-hour curfew for Kuala Lumpur was announced on the radio at 7.35 pm and repeated on television at 8 pm. Later, between 8.30 and 9.00 pm, a shoot-to-kill order was given by Inspector General of Police Mat Salleh. This was followed by another shoot-to-kill order from the Chief of Armed Forces, General Tunku Osman Jiwa.[21] The army was deployed and they entered the areas affected by rioting at around 10 pm.[22] Many people who were unaware of the curfew order were shot. Some were also shot while standing in their own doorways and gardens. Foreign correspondents reported seeing members of the Royal Malay Regiment firing into Chinese shop-houses for no apparent reason.[21]
By 5 am the next morning, the authorities at Kuala Lumpur General Hospital reported that there were about 80 dead. Members of the hospital staff also reported that the initial casualties between 7 and 8.30 pm had all been Chinese suffering from parang slashes and stab wounds, but that between 8.30 and 10.30 pm the victims were equally divided between Chinese and Malays. However, after about 10.30 pm the casualties were almost all Chinese, with nearly all of them suffering from gunshot wounds.[21]
Later events[edit]
The army gathered at crucial road junctions and patrolled the main streets, but even though a curfew had been announced, young men in areas such as Kampung Baru and Pudu ignored the order. Although most of the killings occurred on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, the burning and looting of Chinese shops and houses by Malays continued on Thursday and Friday with over 450 houses burnt.[23] People displaced by the riots, most of them Chinese, were sent to official refugee centres in different parts of town - the Malays to Stadium Negara, and the Chinese to Stadium Merdeka, Chinwoo Stadium, and Shaw Road School. By Sunday, the number of Chinese refugees had increased to 3,500 in Merdeka Stadium, 1,500 in Chinwoo Stadium, and 800 in Shaw Road School, while the Malays in Stadium Negara had decreased from 650 on Thursday to 250 on Sunday.[24] Over a thousand refugees were still left in Merdeka Stadium a month after the riot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_May_Incident
. On the morning of 13 May, Malays began to gather at the residence of Selangor Menteri Besar Dato' Harun Haji Idris in Jalan Raja Muda on the edge of Kampung Baru, although some were there as early as Sunday evening. The Malays came from various parts of Selangor such as Morib (Harun's constituency) and Banting, as well as parts of Perak.[14] According to the NOC official report, at around 6 pm, fist fights broke out in Setapak between a group of Malays from Gombak travelling to the rally and Chinese bystanders who taunted them, and this escalated into bottle and stone throwing.[15] News of the fighting then reached the gathering crowd in Jalan Raja Muda, and shortly before 6.30 pm, many Malays broke off from its rallying point at the Chief Minister's house and headed through adjoining Chinese sections.[7] The Malays, armed with parangs and kris, burned cars and shops, killed and looted in the Chinese areas;[7] according to Time, at least eight Chinese were killed in the initial attack.[16] Once violence broke out, it spread rapidly and uncontrollably throughout the city within 45 minutes,[1] to Jalan Campbell, Jalan Tuanku Abdul Rahman (Batu Road), Kampung Datuk Keramat, Kampung Pandan, Cheras and Kampung Kerunchi.[17]
Retaliations and armed response[edit]
According to John Slimming, who wrote an account of the riot in 1969, the Chinese were taken by surprise and did not retaliate for more than an hour.[18] The NOC official report, however, suggested that Chinese secret society elements had prepared for trouble and were in action when the violence started in Kampung Baru.[19] In Batu Road, Chinese and Indian shopkeepers began to form themselves into an improvised defence force, while a Malay mob attempting to storm the Chow Kit Road area were met with armed secret society gang members and ran.[15] The Chinese attacked Malays who were found in Chinese areas, and Malay patrons in cinemas were singled out and killed.[20] They also attempted to burn down the UMNO headquarters in Batu Road and besieged Salak South Police Station.
Early in the evening the rioters were met by police, who used tear gas in an attempt to control them. A 24-hour curfew for Kuala Lumpur was announced on the radio at 7.35 pm and repeated on television at 8 pm. Later, between 8.30 and 9.00 pm, a shoot-to-kill order was given by Inspector General of Police Mat Salleh. This was followed by another shoot-to-kill order from the Chief of Armed Forces, General Tunku Osman Jiwa.[21] The army was deployed and they entered the areas affected by rioting at around 10 pm.[22] Many people who were unaware of the curfew order were shot. Some were also shot while standing in their own doorways and gardens. Foreign correspondents reported seeing members of the Royal Malay Regiment firing into Chinese shop-houses for no apparent reason.[21]
By 5 am the next morning, the authorities at Kuala Lumpur General Hospital reported that there were about 80 dead. Members of the hospital staff also reported that the initial casualties between 7 and 8.30 pm had all been Chinese suffering from parang slashes and stab wounds, but that between 8.30 and 10.30 pm the victims were equally divided between Chinese and Malays. However, after about 10.30 pm the casualties were almost all Chinese, with nearly all of them suffering from gunshot wounds.[21]
Later events[edit]
The army gathered at crucial road junctions and patrolled the main streets, but even though a curfew had been announced, young men in areas such as Kampung Baru and Pudu ignored the order. Although most of the killings occurred on Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, the burning and looting of Chinese shops and houses by Malays continued on Thursday and Friday with over 450 houses burnt.[23] People displaced by the riots, most of them Chinese, were sent to official refugee centres in different parts of town - the Malays to Stadium Negara, and the Chinese to Stadium Merdeka, Chinwoo Stadium, and Shaw Road School. By Sunday, the number of Chinese refugees had increased to 3,500 in Merdeka Stadium, 1,500 in Chinwoo Stadium, and 800 in Shaw Road School, while the Malays in Stadium Negara had decreased from 650 on Thursday to 250 on Sunday.[24] Over a thousand refugees were still left in Merdeka Stadium a month after the riot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_May_Incident
I was studying very hard for my psle hoping to make it to RI. Ended up at monk's hill Sec sch.
Lucky u never become a Gambling Monk, haha.
Gambling pastor can?
One small step for man. A giant leap for mankind!
There's so many strange places I like to me
but none of them permanently ..............
[video=youtube;kIq8jLj5TzU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIq8jLj5TzU[/video]
There is no secret the 1964 riots was when the Muslims left Sultan Mosque here after mosque prayers and went on their murderous rampage. This is the same tactic of Muslims all over the world have done for over one thousand years! In 1969 it was again the Muslims creating havoc to overthrow their own government but using religious tensions to score points among the populace.
I wasn't even a litte sperm then!
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