Serious Singaporeans Are So Pitiful

halsey02 · May 19, 2016

ckmpd said:
did halsey02 say free healthcare for foreigners? dont put words in his mouth.

free healthcare for Singaporeans is not an impossible idea

Some of these people are just 'frog in the well'....oh well!.....We do not live in the century where we have to rely on TELEX from the telegram office, the last time I received one was in 1980 something from the Telegram Office in Robinson Rd...

Anyway...what I meant is, we are such a connected world today, & we have friends living spread out across the globe, many of which had migrated & settled there...to Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, HK, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Canada..Australia...USA, UK Ireland, countries in Europe...etc even PRC...so we jolly well know, what healthcare is like...FREE for foreigners? I never said that...not even free for locals....I do admit that when I was young, I got FREE in some way....here.

My the other point is...many here, living under the PAP UMBRELLA are just "frogs in the well".... :rolleyes:

Agoraphobic · May 19, 2016

This should be the function (and duty) of the daily newspaper, the Straits TImes. It should voice the opinions of the masses. SInce the day I could read, I realized that the ST never ever voiced any of the public's grievance(s), instead it has become the mouthpiece of the ruling party, always siding with their side of the story. Even the forum page, is filled with buggers giving credit to the gahmen for their policies. And the editorial page is a newsletter for the PAP's announcements! Today, I don't buy the Straits Times anymore. Some Saturdays, I would buy an issue when my wife asks me to - she only sees it to check on property prices. I have been waiting for a real newspaper to be published here for many years already!!

Cheers!

ckmpd said:
Singaporeans are generally docile and dont kpkb. If there is a reason that caused delays, we also dont complain. But if it is when problems are created by the govt and they dont own up, that's when Singaporeans are angry. The divide between pap and people is wide and increasing

eatshitndie · May 19, 2016

there's no such thing as a "free" lunch. anyone who thinks "free" is free for even a small select segment of the population needs to take a chill pill and wake up to reality. someone else is paying for your so called "free" service, and it only invites abuse from every angle. the best firewall will not be secure enough to stop all loopholes and hacks. apply a semblance of monetary value or painful disincentive to the system, and a majority of abuses will go away.

eatshitndie · May 19, 2016

Charlie99 said:
It is already over crowded.
Last Thursday, one of our children had a head injury from volleyball at school, and I had to take her to emergency at the Hospital for Sick Children.
I did not kpkb.
What is the point?

if they impose a moderate co-pay or fee-based (not free) system, the overcrowding will dissipate. "free" hospitals in canada and the u.k. are some of the most overcrowded hospitals i've seen in 1st world countries. they are becoming like 3rd world hospitals. and sg must not follow the idiocy.

bigboss · May 19, 2016

Singaporeans are so pitiful to have a PM, Health Minister and Hospital who think nothing wrong abt telling lies just to get an extra $40 per day from a 70yr old, unemployed, terminally sick Singaporean who lives in a 3room HDB flat without any source of income.

What kind of govt exploit the poor, the terminally sick and the vulnerable? And this govt dares to preach graciousness and care to Singaporeans! What audacity!

SGH merely following bible of LKY ... what is wrong about making more money? Pappies been squeezing sinkies for ages ... nothing new. You poor, your business. You die, your business. You no place to stay, your business.
So, you can find mats camping in Changi beach. A first world country but there are people in the island sleeping in HDB void decks, parks, fields, etc.

halsey02 · May 19, 2016

bigboss said:
SGH merely following bible of LKY ... what is wrong about making more money? Pappies been squeezing sinkies for ages ... nothing new. You poor, your business. You die, your business. You no place to stay, your business.
So, you can find mats camping in Changi beach. A first world country but there are people in the island sleeping in HDB void decks, parks, fields, etc.

There are a couple of people sleeping at the "elderly" corner done up by the RC.....they sleep on cardboard's, have coffee making facilities, toilet to bathe etc.... & the TV is turn on certain hours....why not ? free service by the RC...but these people are vagrants...

enterprise2 · May 19, 2016

halsey02 said:
There are a couple of people sleeping at the "elderly" corner done up by the RC.....they sleep on cardboard's, have coffee making facilities, toilet to bathe etc.... & the TV is turn on certain hours....why not ? free service by the RC...but these people are vagrants...

Free food and free exercise! Like country club!

jw5 · May 19, 2016

enterprise2 said:
Free food and free exercise! Like country club!

If they use the cardboards to cover themselves, it's also free shelter. :(

winnipegjets · May 19, 2016

Agoraphobic said:
This should be the function (and duty) of the daily newspaper, the Straits TImes. It should voice the opinions of the masses. SInce the day I could read, I realized that the ST never ever voiced any of the public's grievance(s), instead it has become the mouthpiece of the ruling party, always siding with their side of the story. Even the forum page, is filled with buggers giving credit to the gahmen for their policies. And the editorial page is a newsletter for the PAP's announcements! Today, I don't buy the Straits Times anymore. Some Saturdays, I would buy an issue when my wife asks me to - she only sees it to check on property prices. I have been waiting for a real newspaper to be published here for many years already!!

Cheers!

You have SBF - the true fifth estate in sinkapore!

winnipegjets · May 19, 2016

eatshitndie said:
if they impose a moderate co-pay or fee-based (not free) system, the overcrowding will dissipate. "free" hospitals in canada and the u.k. are some of the most overcrowded hospitals i've seen in 1st world countries. they are becoming like 3rd world hospitals. and sg must not follow the idiocy.

Co-pay will lead to full pay. There is no perfect system. The principle ought to be healthcare is a fundamental right. It is not only for the rich.

winnipegjets · May 19, 2016

eatshitndie said:
there's no such thing as a "free" lunch. anyone who thinks "free" is free for even a small select segment of the population needs to take a chill pill and wake up to reality. someone else is paying for your so called "free" service, and it only invites abuse from every angle. the best firewall will not be secure enough to stop all loopholes and hacks. apply a semblance of monetary value or painful disincentive to the system, and a majority of abuses will go away.

It is free in the sense that you don't have to pay for it when you need it. It is like insurance lah.
Everyone pays for it ...not someone. Each pay according to his ability.
You can choose to live in your own island or participate in a community.

Rightwingers like you only think of ownself ...you can afford to pay taxes, be thankful. Consider that as your membership fee. If you don't like to be member of that community, move to somewhere where you can pay less or none.

The world should emulate the Scandinanvians. Look how happy they are. People there can truly live free of worries - their taxes pay for education from kindy to university; university students got allowances some more, healthcare, unemployment insurance, pension, child care. With these major expenses taken care, people can pursue to life to the fullest.

eatshitndie · May 19, 2016

winnipegjets said:
The world should emulate the Scandinanvians. Look how happy they are. People there can truly live free of worries - their taxes pay for education from kindy to university; university students got allowances some more, healthcare, unemployment insurance, pension, child care. With these major expenses taken care, people can pursue to life to the fullest.

such as lining up at a soup kitchen for the homeless in sweden.....

winnipegjets · May 19, 2016

eatshitndie said:
such as lining up at a soup kitchen for the homeless in sweden.....

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Less poor than USA! Look they are so well dressed.

Simple to rid that ...implement minimum income.

eatshitndie · May 19, 2016

winnipegjets said:
Less poor than USA! Look they are so well dressed.

Simple to rid that ...implement minimum income.

that's because it's freaking cold in sweden and the homeless need to dress heavily to stay alive. there are over 34,000 homeless folks in sweden.

winnipegjets · May 19, 2016

eatshitndie said:
that's because it's freaking cold in sweden and the homeless need to dress heavily to stay alive. there are over 34,000 homeless folks in sweden.

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Population of Sweden : 9.5 million. The country is doing very well in eradicating homelessness!

Agoraphobic · May 20, 2016

There is truth in this. I have not bought a copy of the ST for years. I read this forum and it provided me all the news I need to know of this little island. I believe it is more accurate than the reports in that crappy paper as well!

Cheers!

winnipegjets said:
You have SBF - the true fifth estate in sinkapore!

ckmpd · May 20, 2016

halsey02 said:
Some of these people are just 'frog in the well'....oh well!.....We do not live in the century where we have to rely on TELEX from the telegram office, the last time I received one was in 1980 something from the Telegram Office in Robinson Rd...

Anyway...what I meant is, we are such a connected world today, & we have friends living spread out across the globe, many of which had migrated & settled there...to Malaysia, Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, HK, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Canada..Australia...USA, UK Ireland, countries in Europe...etc even PRC...so we jolly well know, what healthcare is like...FREE for foreigners? I never said that...not even free for locals....I do admit that when I was young, I got FREE in some way....here.

My the other point is...many here, living under the PAP UMBRELLA are just "frogs in the well"....

Agree...that's why i said that he is putting words in your mouth.

Many singaporeans believe everything the pap said. It is wiser to listen and check than to trust blindly

ckmpd · May 20, 2016

winnipegjets said:
Population of Sweden : 9.5 million. The country is doing very well in eradicating homelessness!

Yes...and swedes have much less worries than singaporeans

ckmpd · May 20, 2016

winnipegjets said:
Co-pay will lead to full pay. There is no perfect system. The principle ought to be healthcare is a fundamental right. It is not only for the rich.

The pap is abdicating its duty to make education, safety and healthcare affordable to singaporeans. The present pap has failed

ckmpd · May 20, 2016

jw5 said:
If they use the cardboards to cover themselves, it's also free shelter. :(

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