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S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production line

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So, apparently, MANTAK (the Israeli Defence Forces' ordnance arm and maker of the Merkava Main Battle Tank) was going to wind down the production line due to lack of orders for its tank. Once production has ceased, it costs quite a bit of money to start up again. As well, many employees are laid off and for a large ticket item like tank production, the consequences for the economy would be significant.

Apparently, according to French website Intelligence Online - Global Strategic Intelligence, S'pore became the white knight in shining armour coming to rescue the jewish princess (no pun intended). talks opened in 2014 to purchase the 65 ton Merkava to use as a mobile artillery piece (never mind we already have the SP Howitzer Primus 155mm), and an order was placed in 2015 for dozens of Merkavas. The report does not state exactly how many or which version (I assume here it will be Merkava 4).

The report in my opinion is disconcerting in many ways. This is not the first time that Sinkie taxpayer money has been spend to save Israeli backsides and their economy. See Iron Dome for this. Also, if this report is accurate, then the use of a Merkava as a mobile arty piece is a gross misuse of its purpose. If that were the purpose, the current battalion plus of Leo 2s can do that quite well. And even the old 105mm equipped KPs parked in certain strategic areas in singapore can reach 10-20km in the indirect fire arty role into malaysia. A Leo 2 should be able to reach 20km easily with its 120mm gun. How much of the report is true and how much must be read with a grain of salt, no one knows. But with the defence budget climbing every year and currently over $14 billion, with almost zero accountability and transparency, it just opens up the can or worms to abuse.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth.
 

virus

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

20km hit is not good enough for modern warfare. too close for setups, try looking at 50km.
 

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

20km hit is not good enough for modern warfare. too close for setups, try looking at 50km.

What talking you? A modern 155mm SPG like the Primus only has a range of 30km. 50km is for MLRS, and that is whole different ballgame.
 

winnipegjets

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

One nuclear missile will be enough to decimate the peesai. It is a waste spending $14 billion on defence ministry.
 

Debonerman

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

So, apparently, MANTAK (the Israeli Defence Forces' ordnance arm and maker of the Merkava Main Battle Tank) was going to wind down the production line due to lack of orders for its tank. Once production has ceased, it costs quite a bit of money to start up again. As well, many employees are laid off and for a large ticket item like tank production, the consequences for the economy would be significant.

Apparently, according to French website Intelligence Online - Global Strategic Intelligence, S'pore became the white knight in shining armour coming to rescue the jewish princess (no pun intended). talks opened in 2014 to purchase the 65 ton Merkava to use as a mobile artillery piece (never mind we already have the SP Howitzer Primus 155mm), and an order was placed in 2015 for dozens of Merkavas. The report does not state exactly how many or which version (I assume here it will be Merkava 4).

The report in my opinion is disconcerting in many ways. This is not the first time that Sinkie taxpayer money has been spend to save Israeli backsides and their economy. See Iron Dome for this. Also, if this report is accurate, then the use of a Merkava as a mobile arty piece is a gross misuse of its purpose. If that were the purpose, the current battalion plus of Leo 2s can do that quite well. And even the old 105mm equipped KPs parked in certain strategic areas in singapore can reach 10-20km in the indirect fire arty role into malaysia. A Leo 2 should be able to reach 20km easily with its 120mm gun. How much of the report is true and how much must be read with a grain of salt, no one knows. But with the defence budget climbing every year and currently over $14 billion, with almost zero accountability and transparency, it just opens up the can or worms to abuse.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth.


What are you talking about? Merkava chassis as an artillery platform or a whole tank designed for direct fire to a range of 3000 odd meters can be used as artillery to 20 kms?
 

virus

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

One nuclear missile will be enough to decimate the peesai. It is a waste spending $14 billion on defence ministry.

you dont need missile to deliver a warhead. all you need is a suitcase and a vault to keep it in the enemy territory. and a timer to activate it.
 

virus

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

What talking you? A modern 155mm SPG like the Primus only has a range of 30km. 50km is for MLRS, and that is whole different ballgame.

you are still stuck with current WWII specs. you need to extend reach for destruction of enemies before they are able to set up capabilities to attack back. longer and better accuracy is the ingame, which is why new AAM are designed to hit from afar without line of sight.
 

Hans168

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

So, apparently, MANTAK (the Israeli Defence Forces' ordnance arm and maker of the Merkava Main Battle Tank) was going to wind down the production line due to lack of orders for its tank.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth.

who are the bastards who gave PAP the blank cheques?????????????????????????????????????????????????
 

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

who are the bastards who gave PAP the blank cheques?????????????????????????????????????????????????

apparently 70% of the population
 

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

the stupid PAP should never have paid 1 cent for the development of the iron dome system. The jews would have bankrupted their economy developing it. they need it 10,000 times more then we do. The palestinians were raining down short range missiles on them. we could have bought it from the jews after they spend all the money to perfect it.
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

The merkava were trashed by the hezbollah with russian technology they still bought that shit?so if our muslim neighbors want to beat us they just pick up some cheap Russian tech?
 

Debonerman

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

What are you talking about? Merkava chassis as an artillery platform or a whole tank designed for direct fire to a range of 3000 odd meters can be used as artillery to 20 kms?

Boy! you can't answer a simple question?
 

steffychun

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

Where are these ghost tanks stored?
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

I hope mudlaysia and indonesia bomb us a thousand times to make us repent for our sins.
 

harimau

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

Merkava tanks are good!!

I like! You drive an old German leopard, I drive this new tank. See who wins.

 

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

Merkava tanks are good!!

I like! You drive an old German leopard, I drive this new tank. See who wins.


Merk 4 wins hands down. No contest. Even with the shit upgrade IBD charged the SAF for.
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

Isnt iron dome worthless since the ammo is too expensive and israel had to beg US for handouts.this sshows its way too expensive for small countries to defend themselves.pap is making mistake going for expensive worthless israeli tech when we should be going for cheaper better faster russian and chinese tech.
 

syed putra

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Re: S'pore bought "dozens" of Merkava tanks last year to save Jew's tank production l

Singapore was the only country in south east asia that bought the aermachi m-346, also purchased by israel airforce as trainers.
Other asean countries, indonesia, philippines and thailand bought korean made kai t-50.
 
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