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S'pore-Israel Defence connection - where $ billions of taxpayer money has vanished

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Even the Jews know who the real first leader of singapore was. It was another Jew, David marshall. they know that it was all PAP propaganda that promoted Old Fart as the founding PM. My ass. Gay Loong is really a dumb ass. I don't know why he has to go all the way to Israel to thank the Jews. they should be coming here to thank us. The Jews never did anything for us that was free. We paid them handsomely for all the equipment we got from them, including the death traps used AMX-13s. We singlehandedly supported their economy to the tune of $ Billions a year. In return, we got their assistance to spy on our own citizens and we got shit military equipment that we don't need. Gay Loong should just say that he is going to Jeruselam to check on his bribery bank account.

Israel and Singapore: The ties that bind

In first visit ever by Singapore PM, leader thanks Israel for defense aid over the years

Last week Lee Hsien Loong, the prime minister of tiny Singapore, paid an official visit to Israel. It was the first visit of its kind. Accompanied by ministers and businessmen, he and his host, Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu, issued statements praising the good relations and joint ventures between the two countries in the fields of hi-tech, cyber, water, environmental conservation and more.

Netanyahu also mentioned the first prime minister of Singapore, Lee Kuan Yew, who happens to be the father of the current one and is considered in his country as the founder of the republic. Netanyahu “forgot” to mention the first chief minister, David Marshall, who was a local Jew, whose legacy has been erased from Singaporean history books by the dictatorial regimes of father and son.

However, what was missing during the visit in all public declarations was the glue that binds the two countries. That glue, according to foreign reports, is the military, intelligence and security ties between the two countries. The ties are very close to the extent that Singapore has over five decades become a very important market for Israel’s military industries not only in Southeast Asia but on a global level, and a partner in joint research and development ventures of advanced weapon systems. The country attracts hundreds of former Israeli military and intelligence officers and hosts major security corporations such as Israel Aerospace Industries, Rafael Advanced Defense Systems and Elbit Systems, in addition to the Israeli Embassy with its military attachés.


Surprisingly, it was the guest who recalled the secret past military ties by saying, “We thank Israel for your assistance when Singapore was forced to get its independence in 1965, when our security and survival were in doubt. Israel Defense Forces helped to build our armed forces when other states refused.”

Lee also recalled how he first visited Israel in 1977 when he was a junior military officer while escorting Lt.-Gen. Winston Choo, then his country’s chief of staff and now the ambassador in Tel Aviv.

Singapore is a modern-day city-state spread over 700 square kilometers, with a population of 5.5 million. Seventy-five percent are of Chinese descent, 13% Malayan Muslims and 10% Indians. It is surrounded by two large Muslim nations – Malaysia and Indonesia.

In that sense Singapore sees parallels between its situation and Israel’s: two small nations with advanced economies, surrounded by hostile states with different backgrounds, religions and cultures.

This seeming similarity brought Singapore in the mid ’60s to ask Israel to build its armed forces, after India, Egypt and Britain declined.

In 1965 Israel sent a military delegation led by Col.Yaakov Elazari and later by Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who years later would be the defense minister. The Israeli advisers advised Singapore to form an army based on the IDF’s experience, tactics and doctrines.

To conceal the presence of their nationality the Israeli advisers were locally referred to as the “Mexicans.”

After forming the armed forces, Israel began supplying Singapore with weapons of all sorts and, according to foreign reports, it continues to do so today. According to these reports, the arms deals have included patrol and missile boats, upgrading of fighter planes, intelligence equipment, missiles and control and command centers.

Defense News reported that the Singaporean air force is flying two squadrons of Israeli- made drones. One is composed of the Hermes model manufactured by Elbit, and one the Heron made by IAI.

The French newsletter Intelligence Online wrote last year that Singapore also purchased dozens of Israel made Merkava tanks to be used as artillery to repel any future invasion of the country.

Since the Defense Ministry doesn’t name the countries that purchase weapons from Israel, it is unknown what the export volume to Singapore was. But if all the deals, as reported in the foreign media, are added up, it is possible to conclude that Israel has sold Singapore over the years weapons worth billions of dollars.

It was also reported that the two countries’ military industries cooperate in joint ventures in third countries.

For example, IAI and its Singaporean counterpart won a tender to upgrade Turkish fighter planes. Another pattern revealed by some foreign reports is that Singapore invests money in the research and development of Israeli weapons systems and in return gets to manufacture them in its own industries.

One example stands out. For the last five years there were consistent reports in the foreign media that Singapore was financially involved in the Israeli-made Iron Dome, a system to “kill” rockets and missiles, which was used in the last two wars in Gaza.

Both Israel and Singapore didn’t comment.

Last week during Lee’s visit, it was the Singaporean Ministry of Defense that broke its own silence by announcing that it had bought advanced radar from Elta, a subsidiary of IAI. This radar is part of the Iron Dome system.

In the last decade-and-ahalf, since 9/11/2001, intelligence cooperation between the two nations to combat terrorism has been on the increase. Together with foreign intelligence agencies, Singapore exposed terrorist cells of al-Qaida and recently Islamic State that originated in neighboring Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines.

The cells planned to hit ships anchoring in or sailing to the port of Singapore, embassies and other Western installations, including Israel’s.

The Mossad, for its part, uncovered a Hezbollah plot that spread from the Philippines to bomb the Israeli Embassy in Thailand.

One can expect that after the visit of Lee, who invited Netanyahu for a reciprocal visit, Israeli-Singaporean relations will develop even further.
 

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That's why sinkapore doesn't say so much about how $12 billion in defence budget is spent?
 

red amoeba

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We asked India for help but they say diu nei, only Israel come. We don't forget true friends.
 

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We asked India for help but they say diu nei, only Israel come. We don't forget true friends.

Hahahahha, you want India to say yes, and you want India's help to start an army? Are you fucking retarded? An army trained by Indians and equipped by Indians will defeat who? A classroom of kindergarten kids?
 

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Many people now know that Indian made is not always great:smile:

In the old days MINDEF was thrifty & would try to save $ by buying 2nd hand ammo for the tanks e.g older rounds from Europe, from cheaper sources like made in India.

Heard stories of the Indian rounds failing to fire or falling short of their target.
 

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Many people now know that Indian made is not always great:smile:

In the old days MINDEF was thrifty & would try to save $ by buying 2nd hand ammo for the tanks e.g older rounds from Europe, from cheaper sources like made in India.

Heard stories of the Indian rounds failing to fire or falling short of their target.

We never used Indian ammo as far as I know. We did buy Indian AMX-13s, some of them in such bad shape and even suffering battle damage like blown tracks. We also bought their old KP tanks, but we used the Jews to mod them to better standard then the Indian versions.
 

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Chinese will never acknowledge another race contribution. Just like they erase the mongols are the founder of today's modern china.
 

steffychun

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What happened to the Centurions the SAF never had but were known to be stored in Taiwan?
 

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Israel is our real pals! We begged for the world to help us in building up our Military only Israel responded!

True friend is the one who really helped you when you are down and in need!

A great thanks to David Marshall superior social skills! Without his Jewish humility and eloquence this would not be possible! I am very thankful for the great Jewish nation!

Israel is a shinning light in the middle East!

Work with winners, not loser! LKY did the right thing enlisting the Jewish help!

Now Iraq is in a mess! Syria is exporting refugees!

Saudis are bombing their Moslems brothers in Yemen!

Palestinians are homeless! Pakistan is mediocre!

Dubai is a land for hedonists!!!

Is there hope in Allah lands?

God bless Singapore and Israel!

Blessed is the one who worship Elohim!

Blessed is the one who worship Jehovah!

Blessed is the one who worship Jesus!

Hallelujah und Amen!

 
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any armored vehicle including a tank that can shelter and protect troops in an aft compartment like an ambulance in giving cover to spf poodles is a great buy. :p
 

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Israel is our real pals! We begged for the world to help us in building up our Military only Israel responded!

True friend is the one who really helped you when you are down and in need!

U still swallowing PAP propaganda like a geylang pros swallows cock?

We already had many decades of British military influence. Many of the pioneering batch of SAF were British trained first before the Jews started the training. Ever ask yourself why the PAP never asked the Brits to leave a few military advisors to start training the new SAF? Ever ask yourself why the PAP never ask the US to send advisors to train their soldiers? The US would love nothing then to open a new market for their weapons sales and also at the same time have a base in SE Asia for the purposes of access to Vietnam. Why not ask the French to train us? U think these countries not eager to have influence and potential weapons sales in SE Asia. Look at how much billions we gave the Jews. All the countries I have mentioned would love to have this kind of relation. But yet, Old Fart chose Israel, a country so small and so far away and it looks like in those days, a country that was about to be overrun by Arabs. Why chose them?

The reason is that Israel is a country where when it comes to arms dealings, the public does not want to know and the law does not allow it to be known. Hence, Israel can sell anything to singapore without full disclosure. items related to kickbacks and bribery is hence shielded by both govts. this is impossible with say the British and US arms sales. For example in the US, Arms sales and Foreign Military Sales have to go through congressional reviews. And the US govt in the past have prosecuted its own Defence contractors for bribe and graft. any kickbacks to the PAP would be known and discovered. But not the sales done through Israel. This is why so many military items bought through the original manufacturers are further modified in Israel. F-16s bought from Lockheed in the US are modified in Israel, not US. Same for F-15s. I think the PAP elites have been slimming the defence bidget for decades with the collusion of the Jews.
 

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U still swallowing PAP propaganda like a geylang pros swallows cock?

We already had many decades of British military influence. Many of the pioneering batch of SAF were British trained first before the Jews started the training. Ever ask yourself why the PAP never asked the Brits to leave a few military advisors to start training the new SAF? Ever ask yourself why the PAP never ask the US to send advisors to train their soldiers? The US would love nothing then to open a new market for their weapons sales and also at the same time have a base in SE Asia for the purposes of access to Vietnam. Why not ask the French to train us? U think these countries not eager to have influence and potential weapons sales in SE Asia. Look at how much billions we gave the Jews. All the countries I have mentioned would love to have this kind of relation. But yet, Old Fart chose Israel, a country so small and so far away and it looks like in those days, a country that was about to be overrun by Arabs. Why chose them?

The reason is that Israel is a country where when it comes to arms dealings, the public does not want to know and the law does not allow it to be known. Hence, Israel can sell anything to singapore without full disclosure. items related to kickbacks and bribery is hence shielded by both govts. this is impossible with say the British and US arms sales. For example in the US, Arms sales and Foreign Military Sales have to go through congressional reviews. And the US govt in the past have prosecuted its own Defence contractors for bribe and graft. any kickbacks to the PAP would be known and discovered. But not the sales done through Israel. This is why so many military items bought through the original manufacturers are further modified in Israel. F-16s bought from Lockheed in the US are modified in Israel, not US. Same for F-15s. I think the PAP elites have been slimming the defence bidget for decades with the collusion of the Jews.

Why? LKY HATED the Brits. Why would he want the Brits to train the SAF? Besides, they had shitty equipment left over.
 
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