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Another failed sinkee coming home

winnipegjets

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A Singaporean's journey West, and back home

As a Singaporean who has lived and worked in London for nearly 10 years now, making the decision to finally move back home was not an easy one. After all the deliberation, one thing was abundantly clear - Singapore is my home.

It is where friends, family and fond memories reside. It is where I come from, it is where I must return, and considering my age - 31 - it was better to do so sooner rather than later.

With my resignation tendered last month, my fiancee and I found ourselves with quite a bit of spare time on our hands, and thus we set out to travel around Europe for as much as our backpacks and budgets would allow before returning to Singapore for good.

Friends will remember me as a diehard free-market libertarian with a strong anti-government bent and a fondness for tau hway (soya bean curd) and bak chor mee (minced pork noodles).

The second trait hasn't changed; but the first has swung considerably. I now believe in the need for strong government oversight alongside a largely free-market framework.

The primary reason for that change is the time I have spent in Europe; the experiences here have led me to rethink the role of government and the onerous task of policymaking which we too easily criticise or take for granted in Singapore.

A recent trip to the Scandinavian countries of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, just as the refugee crisis was reaching fever pitch in Europe, brought to life an issue that was, until then, just something you saw happen to other people on TV.

I saw some questioning of the so-called Scandinavian or Nordic model, a socio-economic system characterised by big government, and a generous welfare state - public spending accounts for 40 to over 50 per cent of gross domestic product in the Scandinavian nations of Norway, Sweden and Denmark, as compared with the less than 20 per cent in Singapore and Hong Kong.

This system has historically been lauded for its egalitarian attitudes and high moral ambitions, including an open-door immigration and asylum policy; generous unemployment benefits and maternity-related incentives, as well as the provision of high-quality, universal public services and infrastructure.

The past two years, however, have been testing for Scandinavian generosity as an eruption of geopolitical unrest and economic malaise have sent millions fleeing their homes in Africa and the Middle East in search of a better life in Europe.

Some of these refugees have ended up in the Scandinavian countries, travelling from the warm Mediterranean countries they first landed in, Greece and Italy, and travelling north, presumably seeking the countries with the most generous welfare entitlements, like any rational economic actor would do.

Last year alone, Sweden took in more than 160,000 asylum seekers, with another 160,000 expected to arrive this year (up threefold from about 50,000 in 2013).

The migration agency expects this influx could cost it around 60 billion kronor (S$10 billion) annually, or 1.5 per cent of GDP, and to put this figure into perspective, that is almost how much Sweden spent on healthcare (70 billion kronor) and education (70 billion kronor) respectively last year.

But apart from the financial cost incurred, the crisis has exacted a toll on society as a whole. In many cases, new migrants had difficulty picking up the local language and are physically isolated from the rest of society.

In October, a bus carrying 60 refugees reached Limedsforsen, a Swedish village that the refugees considered "too cold" and too remote. They refused to disembark. The village is 400km north-west of Stockholm and had a population of just over 400 inhabitants.

Understandably, some citizens are asking why valuable taxpayer dollars are spent housing, clothing and feeding a large population of people to whom they feel little ethnic or ideological connection, whose majority religion they associate most closely with unspeakable acts of terror and who seem unwilling or unable to integrate with the broader community in their adoptive country.

Indeed, the rules in effect today were written in a different time, for a different world - before the Syrian conflict created the biggest migration push into Europe since World War II - and the Scandinavians, in a dramatic policy U-turn earlier this year, have begun to toughen their stance.

Norway has begun to deport some 5,000 refugees to Russia, Sweden has outlined plans to expel about 80,000 from last year's cohort, while Denmark has enacted controversial laws to allow the seizure of cash and valuables from migrants to help pay for their stay .

Yet, while we were walking the streets of central Stockholm, we saw a number of young activists holding a "refugees welcome" banner. Such public displays of support belie a smouldering resentment: The latest poll in Sweden now indicates that roughly 55 per cent of the population believe the country should not take in any more refugees (up from only about 30 per cent in September).

While international observers have criticised the policy moves as inhumane and local politicians have invoked the moral imperative to help those in need, I find myself on the side of those favouring a tougher stance.

In my opinion, a government should always place the interests of its people first (that is, those who directly contribute and/or are indigenous to that community) before aspiring to nobler goals further afield .

That is not to say that we shouldn't be donating money and offering help to victims of natural and man-made disasters abroad - after all, charity begins at home but it doesn't end there. Rather, it is to acknowledge that in the absence of a utopian world of limitless resources, promising relatively generous benefits and then throwing the barn door wide open is not charity; it is folly.

There is a lesson to be learnt here about sustainability and how our policymakers need to take tail risks and long-term effects into consideration when introducing new laws. Policies which are popular and/or that appear feasible in the short term often spiral out of control over time, and repealing them at some later date can prove not just difficult or impossible, but also deeply unfair - case in point: Is a refugee arriving today any less deserving of asylum than one that arrived two years ago?

Ten years ago, I started my "Journey to the West", believing, perhaps naively, that free markets and open borders were unquestionably desirable, and society could be relied upon to take care of itself and uphold the basic tenets of a civilised democracy. Examples from across the world, past and present, have convinced me that is evidently untrue.

Instead, I believe we need a strong government with an equally strong moral compass because we rely on our politicians to make important decisions on our behalf - decisions that will affect not just our lives, but those of generations after us. These decisions will be imperfect and, in some cases, unpopular. But if they are made honestly, transparently and with the long-term interests of Singapore at heart, they should be made regardless.

With Singapore's Jubilee year SG50 just passed, I look forward to celebrating SG100. And if the situations in Europe and the United States are any guide, we will not get there by having a weak and indecisive government, prone to having its policymaking process corrupted by corporate lobbying and myopic populism.

The writer was until recently director of Investment Companies Research at Cantor Fitzgerald in London. He is co-founder of 31-East.com, a start-up that aims to tackle waste, corruption and inefficiency in the property sector.
 

winnipegjets

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While international observers have criticised the policy moves as inhumane and local politicians have invoked the moral imperative to help those in need, I find myself on the side of those favouring a tougher stance.
In my opinion, a government should always place the interests of its people first (that is, those who directly contribute and/or are indigenous to that community) before aspiring to nobler goals further afield .

And he wants to come back to sinkapore because Europe is not tough on immigration. He doesn't know the PAP's Foreigners First policy?
 

winnipegjets

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Ten years ago, I started my "Journey to the West", believing, perhaps naively, that free markets and open borders were unquestionably desirable, and society could be relied upon to take care of itself and uphold the basic tenets of a civilised democracy. Examples from across the world, past and present, have convinced me that is evidently untrue.

A typical sinkee who can't see beyond the PAP bs. He doesn't even understand how a true society works. That's why he is running back to the bosom of the PAP.
 

winnipegjets

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Instead, I believe we need a strong government with an equally strong moral compass because we rely on our politicians to make important decisions on our behalf - decisions that will affect not just our lives, but those of generations after us. These decisions will be imperfect and, in some cases, unpopular. But if they are made honestly, transparently and with the long-term interests of Singapore at heart, they should be made regardless.

So he prefers a government that tells him what to do instead of a government that works for the people. Only sinkees want that.

Which planet is he from? He thinks PAP is transparent and has the long-term interest of the country at heart!
 

winnipegjets

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And if the situations in Europe and the United States are any guide, we will not get there by having a weak and indecisive government, prone to having its policymaking process corrupted by corporate lobbying and myopic populism.

These countries have survived for more than a century and he thinks that their system is inferior to the PAP! It just shows how shallow sinkees are.
 

nayr69sg

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I understand that you are unhappy with the PAP and all.

But why disparage those who choose to go back to Singapore? Everyone is entitled to their choices in life.

After all Winnipegjets, you too went back to Singapore and are still in Singapore right?

I can understand if it is someone planning to leave Singapore or has left Singapore and slamming these people who choose to go back to Singapore. But it is strange coming from those who continue to work and remain in Singapore.

There is another forumer called Snowbird 99 who settled down in Toronto Markham and is now working and living in Singapore because he got a good job.

So basically whatever works right? Singapore is certainly not the best place to live in and certainly not the worst place to live either.

If you are planning to stay in Singapore it is better to stay positive and look at the positives. You will be happier.

Take care. And have a good day.
 

Narong Wongwan

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These countries have survived for more than a century and he thinks that their system is inferior to the PAP! It just shows how shallow sinkees are.

That's why these morons are even more brainwashed that North Koreans. No hope liao.
Pappies indoctraination program is world number 1.
 

winnipegjets

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I understand that you are unhappy with the PAP and all.

But why disparage those who choose to go back to Singapore? Everyone is entitled to their choices in life.

He is entitled to his choice. But be honest lah. Don't berate time-tested society to justify his move. It just shows how ignorant he is ...he doesn't even understand how democracy works. And the ideals he seeks are not found in the PAP society.
After all Winnipegjets, you too went back to Singapore and are still in Singapore right?
I boh lui leh ...that's why still stuck here. I am saving every cent I can to get out. Any donation is greatly appreciated.

I can understand if it is someone planning to leave Singapore or has left Singapore and slamming these people who choose to go back to Singapore. But it is strange coming from those who continue to work and remain in Singapore.
If I can leave, I will. You wanna sponsor me? I can be the first sinkapore refugee.

There is another forumer called Snowbird 99 who settled down in Toronto Markham and is now working and living in Singapore because he got a good job.
Did he give up his Canadian passport?

So basically whatever works right? Singapore is certainly not the best place to live in and certainly not the worst place to live either.
It depends on long term or short term and what you seek in life.
If you are planning to stay in Singapore it is better to stay positive and look at the positives. You will be happier.
Planning an escape is not easy and does take time. Maybe when Roy Ngerng finishes his payment to Pinky, I will be gone. That is an achievable timeline.


Take care. And have a good day.
ditto to the Canuck.
 

nayr69sg

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I strongly suspect that this 31 year old finance sector professional probably lost his job in London. He claims to have worked there for 10 years meaning he started working there at the age of 21? So likely a fellow from a relatively wealthy family went abroad to study, stayed on, got work in finance, now the finance sector in UK is bad, so moving back to Singapore where is he wanted for his overseas experience.

Also been too long away from Singapore and has not truly experienced the super crowded Singapore of today with lots of foreign talent taking away local jobs etc etc. But his family is probably well to do, and there might even be family businesses to run so he should be ok.

Also no children. He has not experienced the social pressures of sending the kids to tuition for every single subject. Pressures to excel in academics in school. Pressures to send kids to piano, dance, golf, you-name-it enrichment courses and programs.

Sometimes when you are away from Singapore for too long you forget. And also at different stages of our lives we see different things and want different things.
 

frenchbriefs

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this guy is bitching about the immigrant influx and the refugee crisis in europe and this......?

"In my opinion, a government should always place the interests of its people first (that is, those who directly contribute and/or are indigenous to that community) before aspiring to nobler goals further afield ."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA Hes going to get a rude shock when he comes back home.......LMAO!!!!!oh my dear god,makes me want to get out Singapore even faster.
 

winnipegjets

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I strongly suspect that this 31 year old finance sector professional probably lost his job in London. He claims to have worked there for 10 years meaning he started working there at the age of 21? So likely a fellow from a relatively wealthy family went abroad to study, stayed on, got work in finance, now the finance sector in UK is bad, so moving back to Singapore where is he wanted for his overseas experience.

Also been too long away from Singapore and has not truly experienced the super crowded Singapore of today with lots of foreign talent taking away local jobs etc etc. But his family is probably well to do, and there might even be family businesses to run so he should be ok.

Also no children. He has not experienced the social pressures of sending the kids to tuition for every single subject. Pressures to excel in academics in school. Pressures to send kids to piano, dance, golf, you-name-it enrichment courses and programs.

Sometimes when you are away from Singapore for too long you forget. And also at different stages of our lives we see different things and want different things.

A friend of time had to give up his UK PR after he came back to look after them, being the only son. He didn't cooked up some lame reason on the failings of Western democracy to justify his departure. That's why I cannot tahan returnees who show such shallowness to justify their return. Maybe he wants to ingratiate himself with the PAP by his public denunciation of Western democracy.

Sinkapore is just like advertisement. All the positive stories but when you live here, reality shocks you and makes you regret for giving up life in the West. The West is not a perfect society but it works despite the chaos of democracy.
 

tanwahtiu

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this fucker worked in London?

Land of drug traffickers opium growers targeting mainly Chinese in the Far East and SEA for easy drug money?

He should be born in 1700s-1900s where the British empire topped the world monopoly economy dealing in drug money, opium.




A Singaporean's journey West, and back home

As a Singaporean who has lived and worked in London for nearly 10 years now, making the decision to finally move back home was not an easy one. After all the deliberation, one thing was abundantly clear - Singapore is my home.

The writer was until recently director of Investment Companies Research at Cantor Fitzgerald in London. He is co-founder of 31-East.com, a start-up that aims to tackle waste, corruption and inefficiency in the property sector.
 

tanwahtiu

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did he skip NSF or to live there to siam NSF?

go back Singapore to do PAP NSF? must be kidding to come back to be PAP slave for 13 years?

fuck PAP.
 

krafty

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he was probably sidelined in his job, as a graduate from UK before, who doesn't know brits are the most racist pple on earth!:rolleyes:
 

frenchbriefs

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eveything he said is so ironic and self contradictory,i wonder if he realises that?anyway a couple of months or a year or two back in sinkieland will dispel all illusions and misconceptions of his quickly......if only theres a way to record everything and show him the handiwork of PAP for the past ten years and show it to him.
 

nayr69sg

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go google the author of that article. He used to write for Today newspaper. Likely one of his friends found out he is coming back and asked him if he wanted to write a piece of propaganda for goodwill.
 
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