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Govt rebuts lawyer's comments on scheme

Ministry defends 2008 scheme which lawyer Lee Suet Fern says has not benefited S'pore lawyers enough

The Law Ministry has rebutted comments by a prominent Singapore lawyer who said a scheme unveiled in 2008 to open up the local legal sector to foreign law firms has not benefited local lawyers enough.

The ministry was responding to comments on internationalisation by Mrs Lee Suet Fern, managing partner of Morgan Lewis Stamford, at a lecture organised by the Law Society last month.

Mrs Lee had cited the Qualifying Foreign Law Practice (QFLP) scheme, which allows foreign law firms to practise in permitted areas of local law through Singapore qualified lawyers.

She noted that the six original QFLP firms, despite generating $1.2 billion in revenue between 2009 and 2014, had hired "only about 100 out of thousands of Singapore-qualified lawyers", and wondered if this was a good enough outcome. Foreign law firms, she said, had given local ones a run for their money.

In its response, MinLaw defended the scheme, noting that it had opened up new opportunities for Singaporean lawyers who were keen to do transnational commercial work. The scheme allowed them to gain exposure to niche areas not previously easily available and gave opportunities to young local lawyers.

The ministry noted that for 2014/2015, the nine foreign firms granted QFLP status generated $340 million in revenue, with 80 per cent coming from offshore work, or work that could have been done elsewhere.

Exports of legal services in 2014 were worth $700 million - $400 million contributed by foreign law firms.

The ministry added that more than a third of lawyers in QFLPs were Singapore-qualified and more than a quarter of partners in the QFLPs were Singapore-qualified.

It added that the scheme had received the backing of many of Singapore's larger law firms, some of which would be most directly impacted, as well as those in the financial services industry. "In other words, the introduction of the QFLP, and its role in making Singapore a regional legal centre, has implications beyond the legal sector, and benefits beyond the economy."

Pointing out that Mrs Lee's arguments appeared at odds with her previous positions, the ministry disclosed that she had sought to join the scheme in 2014.

But her proposal to do so was turned down as the ministry "had specific periods when it invited applications from everyone, then considered the best applicants".

"It would not be possible to give a licence to one firm, at that firm's request," MinLaw said.

Mrs Lee, however, appealed for an exception to be made for her firm and "strongly made the case for a QFLP licence to be given", said the ministry, noting that she had "extolled the virtues of the QFLP scheme" at the time.

"However, her request was rejected because no exceptions could be made for her. The QFLP licence is awarded only when an application cycle is called, and on a competitive basis."

Asked about this by The Straits Times, Mrs Lee said: "When we were exploring a merger with Morgan Lewis in 2014, we looked at the various existing options, including a QFLP. But as another round of invitations for QFLP licences was not likely, we searched for another avenue to achieve internationalisation."

Stamford Law merged with Morgan Lewis & Bockius last year. Mrs Lee was Stamford's senior director and founder.

Last night, Mrs Lee said she acknowledged the benefits of the QFLP scheme, but added that it is only one of the ways for the legal sector to grow. "Singapore lawyers need to go regional, with or without QFLPs. And there are many opportunities for Singapore lawyers to tap overseas opportunities, as more local and international firms tie up. This calls for a mindset change. Singapore lawyers need to leave their comfort zone and think regional, think international and venture beyond the shores of Singapore."

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Pointing out that Mrs Lee's arguments appeared at odds with her previous positions, the ministry disclosed that she had sought to join the scheme in 2014.

But her proposal to do so was turned down as the ministry "had specific periods when it invited applications from everyone, then considered the best applicants".

"It would not be possible to give a licence to one firm, at that firm's request," MinLaw said.

Mrs Lee, however, appealed for an exception to be made for her firm and "strongly made the case for a QFLP licence to be given", said the ministry, noting that she had "extolled the virtues of the QFLP scheme" at the time.

"However, her request was rejected because no exceptions could be made for her. The QFLP licence is awarded only when an application cycle is called, and on a competitive basis."
 

Pinkieslut

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Lee Hsien Yang is the younger son and youngest child of Lee Kuan Yew and Kwa Geok Choo. His elder brother, Lee Hsien Loong, is the current Prime Minister of Singapore. His sister, Lee Wei Ling, is a former director of the National Neuroscience Institute

Lee is married to lawyer Lim Suet Fern, the daughter of economist Lim Chong Yah.She is the founder and managing partner of Stamford Law Corporation and a former president of the Inter-Pacific Bar Association (IPBA).The couple have three sons.Their eldest son, Li Shengwu, graduated from Keble College of the University of Oxford as the top student in the Philosophy, Politics and Economics programme in 2009.[
 

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By Ian Poh
The Straits Times
Monday, Jan 07, 2013


SINGAPORE - The number of foreign lawyers here has grown faster than that of local ones in the last six years, said Law Society president Lok Vi Ming yesterday.

Speaking at the opening of the new legal year, he said: "The spectacular growth of the number of foreign lawyers practising in Singapore emphasises the need for our foreign brethren to lock hands with local lawyers, not in competition, but in cooperation and integration."

There are more than 4,300 local lawyers practising here today, he said, after the total number of lawyers here grew "steadily" over the last six years and the number of local lawyers passed the 4,000 mark for the first time last year.

But in this six-year period, the number of foreign lawyers grew by about 42 per cent, from 804 to 1,142, while the number of local ones increased from 3,419 to 4,334 - a 27 per cent rise.

Mr Lok noted recent efforts by some foreign firms to work with local firms and institutions. For example, they helped in the society's pro bono research initiative, which gives support to lawyers taking on cases voluntarily. They also provided editorial support for the production of law awareness brochures. He added, however, that foreign lawyers here had only a "modest" level of involvement in pro bono work and said they could do more in that area.

Mr Lok, who is a partner at Singapore's oldest law firm Rodyk & Davidson, took over as Law Society president this month after being elected unopposed by the group's 22-member governing council last November.
 

scroobal

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When the QFLP scheme was first introduced there was apprehension in the air about feeding from the same pond. That seems to have been proven wrong. The challenge now is get more local lawyers into the cross border space. Our local firms seem to know about Cambodia, Vietnam etc
 

mojito

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I think it good idea too. Except you most definitely would not be so naive to believe other countries would not exert protectionistic measures against foreign competition. It is more visible in international trade, but with services it is less apparent therein lies the problem. If it is one thing singapore is world famous for, it is cutting bad deals with vague terms and getting eaten alive.
 

tonychat

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Lee Hsien Yang is the younger son and youngest child of Lee Kuan Yew and Kwa Geok Choo. His elder brother, Lee Hsien Loong, is the current Prime Minister of Singapore. His sister, Lee Wei Ling, is a former director of the National Neuroscience Institute

Lee is married to lawyer Lim Suet Fern, the daughter of economist Lim Chong Yah.She is the founder and managing partner of Stamford Law Corporation and a former president of the Inter-Pacific Bar Association (IPBA).The couple have three sons.Their eldest son, Li Shengwu, graduated from Keble College of the University of Oxford as the top student in the Philosophy, Politics and Economics programme in 2009.[

Why is there a freaking need for such a biography? Did you always bow to them daily?
 

tonychat

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You voted for such shit.. So fucking bend down obediently and enjoy the hard thrust up your ass by the ones you voted for.. Complain for fuck.
 

Brightkid

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Not just Lawyers la. Wait till India, not that they have yet to, ship they millions of jobless to SG, in particular Accountants, engineers, and what-nots, no profession will be spared.

Immediate effect will be the millions Malaysia recently blocked, yet one of our minister who was proven bad in estimation (read as YOG budget) just went to invite the millions to come over.

However, if some will be to replace SG ministers, things should get better here though, fake certificates not withstanding.
 

Asterix

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Mr Lok noted recent efforts by some foreign firms to work with local firms and institutions. For example, they helped in the society's pro bono research initiative, which gives support to lawyers taking on cases voluntarily. They also provided editorial support for the production of law awareness brochures. He added, however, that foreign lawyers here had only a "modest" level of involvement in pro bono work and said they could do more in that area.

Mr Lok, who is a partner at Singapore's oldest law firm Rodyk & Davidson, took over as Law Society president this month after being elected unopposed by the group's 22-member governing council last November.

Elected unopposed by a council filled with Gahbrament appointed nominees means what arh?

Basically only interested in protecting their rice bowl.

Concern for pro bono is just for show only lah! Why not join forces with foreign lawyers to push for the repeal of archaic laws.

[video=youtube;9j692yAZsFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j692yAZsFk[/video]
 

mojito

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Elected unopposed by a council filled with Gahbrament appointed nominees means what arh?

Basically only interested in protecting their rice bowl.

Concern for pro bono is just for show only lah! Why not join forces with foreign lawyers to push for the repeal of archaic laws.

[video=youtube;9j692yAZsFk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j692yAZsFk[/video]

What a silly man you are! Lawyers defend or prosecute based on laws; Lawmakers make laws. If lawyers start making laws as they go, it can only lead to disaster. And foreign lawyers? My, you certainly have a screw loose somewhere to let outsiders dictate and manipulate our sacred laws and constitution. You are most definitely a traitor and a crook! :oIo:
 

Asterix

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What a silly man you are! Lawyers defend or prosecute based on laws; Lawmakers make laws. If lawyers start making laws as they go, it can only lead to disaster. And foreign lawyers? My, you certainly have a screw loose somewhere to let outsiders dictate and manipulate our sacred laws and constitution. You are most definitely a traitor and a crook! :oIo:

:oIo::oIo::oIo::kma::kma::kma:

I am a lesbian! Lawmakers indeed make laws, but in a constitutional republic, they are not free to make any laws they like. Any laws which are in conflict with the constitution can be struck down. That is not making laws as they go, but ensuring that laws are in conformity with the constitution or they are not entitled to be treated as laws and therefore need not be obeyed. Rule of law is NOT the same as obey the law. If people are entitled to human rights because they are human, then it does not matter that they get help from other humans of whatever nationality in the claiming of such rights. You are most definitely an ignoramus and a short sighted Sinkie!

[video=youtube;j0YBGRJoYOo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YBGRJoYOo[/video]
 

jw5

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Not just Lawyers la. Wait till India, not that they have yet to, ship they millions of jobless to SG, in particular Accountants, engineers, and what-nots, no profession will be spared.

Immediate effect will be the millions Malaysia recently blocked, yet one of our minister who was proven bad in estimation (read as YOG budget) just went to invite the millions to come over.

However, if some will be to replace SG ministers, things should get better here though, fake certificates not withstanding.

Absolutely agree and I am with you on this, including the sentence in bold. LOL........................ :biggrin:
 

JohnTan

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This shows that the PAP has been fair and did not give any special preference to Lee Suet Fern despite her connections to Ah Gong. PAP is impartial and does not tolerate nepotism even at the highest levels.
 

jw5

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This shows that the PAP has been fair and did not give any special preference to Lee Suet Fern despite her connections to Ah Gong. PAP is impartial and does not tolerate nepotism even at the highest levels.

Yeah, the only reason Ah Ching became head of Temasek is because she reminds him of Warren Buffet. :biggrin:
 

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Lee Hsien Yang is the younger son and youngest child of Lee Kuan Yew and Kwa Geok Choo. His elder brother, Lee Hsien Loong, is the current Prime Minister of Singapore. His sister, Lee Wei Ling, is a former director of the National Neuroscience Institute
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when n why did LWL step down from that job???
 

eatshitndie

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the rebuttal from the law ministry is factual and excellent, based on the overall good of legal practice in sg. sg needs to attract foreign law firms who can help with vast opportunities in the region and open up doors for locals to learn and intern in major international deals and cases which will otherwise be confined to these best-of-breed law firms and their foreign expertise selected by the business and political elites of respective regional cuntries. having these firms based in sg will also benefit the total revenue earned, overall output and productivity of the legal sector. it's a win-win for many, but a win-lose and lose-lose for some who do not make the cut. obviously those who do not make the cut will kpkb and insinuate all kinds of bs and fiction to slam the policy.
 
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