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$14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght? WTF

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Why is our defence spending so much higher then countries ranked above us in Military strenght? For example, the Malaysian army is ranked 34th and the Indonesian army is ranked 14th, and their military budget is $6.21 billion and $10.57 billion respectively. Clearly, this is a case of very poor bang for the buck, exacerbated by corruption.

Singapore ranked 64th in the world for military strength -

Singapore is used to being at or near the top in international economic rankings of all sorts, but there are some rankings it will probably never come out tops in. -

As a little red dot on the map, Singapore's small size and population means that it is unlikely to rank as highly as larger countries in terms of military strength.

In the 2016 world military strength rankings released by website Global Firepower, Singapore is ranked 64th out of 126 countries worldwide.

The ranking takes into account over 50 factors to assess a country's conventional military capability. According to Global Firepower, the ranking does not simply rely on the total number of weapons a country has, but focuses on weapon diversity to provide a better balance.

However, it also explains that available manpower is a key consideration, with geographical factors, logistical flexibility, natural resources and local industry also influencing the final ranking.

The United States of America remains the most powerful military in the world, according to the rankings. The rest of the top 10 are (in order): Russia, China, India, France, United Kingdom, Japan, Turkey, Germany and Italy. South Korea was just outside of the top 10 at 11th, 14 rungs above North Korea which ranked 25th.

Among Singapore's Southeast Asian neighbours, Indonesia was the highest ranked country in the region at 14th, while Malaysia was ranked 34th.
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Nonetheless, this does not mean that Singapore has a weak defence force. In fact, there is quite a large emphasis placed on defence in the city-state.

According to figures on the World Bank website, Singapore spent about 3.1 per cent of its GDP on military spending from 2011 to 2015. In the same period, Indonesia spent 0.8% of its GDP on military spending, while Malaysia spent 1.5 per cent.

At the recent Committee of Supply debate, Defence Minister Dr Ng Eng Hen said that Singapore would continue to "invest wisely and spend prudently" on defence.

In his speech, he said that Singapore's defence expenditure has grown by about four per cent annually over the past decade, keeping pace with inflation. "I expect to maintain the same trajectory in the longer term," he added.

Dr Ng also said that the Singapore Armed Forces will continue to refresh and upgrade its platforms at a sustainable pace.

He revealed that the navy is acquiring eight versatile Littoral Mission Vessels, the army will launch a new Protected Combat Support Vehicle, while the airforce's aging Super Pumas and Chinook helicopters will soon be replaced. More unmanned platforms will be deployed to free up manpower resources for other missions, he said.
- See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/singap...-world-military-strength#sthash.i9Zq9oTD.dpuf
 

452SAR

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Yours truly extracted some sample results

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

14th - Indonesia
19th - Taiwan
20th - Thailand
25th - North Korea
39th - Netherlands


with due respect, Yours truly don't agree with the rankings.

How can Indonesia's military be so much stronger than Taiwan, North Korea and Netherlands?
 

gingerlyn

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Yours truly extracted some sample results

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

14th - Indonesia
19th - Taiwan
20th - Thailand
25th - North Korea
39th - Netherlands


with due respect, Yours truly don't agree with the rankings.

How can Indonesia's military be so much stronger than Taiwan, North Korea and Netherlands?

I think the size of the full time military men carry some weights.
 

452SAR

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

I think the size of the full time military men carry some weights.

this is why yours truly think that the ranking is flawed and meaningless.

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Yours truly understood the importance of bots in warfare 25 years ago while he was playing his DOS games.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Yours truly extracted some sample results

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

14th - Indonesia
19th - Taiwan
20th - Thailand
25th - North Korea
39th - Netherlands


with due respect, Yours truly don't agree with the rankings.

How can Indonesia's military be so much stronger than Taiwan, North Korea and Netherlands?

SAF has to pay $500 for military grade bolts and nuts from ST Engrg when they can be gotten for $0.50 each
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

SAF would be ranked dead last if they include bravery in combat situations...........Sinkies' balls-lessness is world famous mah
 

Papsmearer

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Yours truly extracted some sample results

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

14th - Indonesia
19th - Taiwan
20th - Thailand
25th - North Korea
39th - Netherlands


with due respect, Yours truly don't agree with the rankings.

How can Indonesia's military be so much stronger than Taiwan, North Korea and Netherlands?

It clearly states that manpower is one of major criteria, and in this Indonesia has more population then all those countries you mentioned combined. The Netherlands has a small population and are always cutting their defence budget. they do have financial contraints. The north Koreans while having a large military, do not have modern generation weapons. The rankings are accurate as far as I am concerned.
 

Papsmearer

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

SAF would be ranked dead last if they include bravery in combat situations...........Sinkies' balls-lessness is world famous mah

SAF would be dead last if leadership and generalship was the criteria.
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

SAF would be dead last if leadership and generalship was the criteria.


i forgot about the leadership............if SAF goes to war..................they need only to bring 2 items.............adult diapers and body bags........
 

PRC_ft

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

You citizens of tiny Pee Sai have no idea how big is this world. Throw your big egos down toilet and be humble.

Your country is tiny and poor your budget is little. What do you expect?

Your PAP fooled you to think too big, anyone following them are dying idiots.
 

eatshitndie

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

it's great strategery not to reveal one's true strength - shit tzu art of fart.
 

JohnTan

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

SAF would be dead last if leadership and generalship was the criteria.

Our leaders attained top honours in their A-levels and won the top PSC scholarships. Their leadership skills and people skills are not in doubt.

If the indons think our SAF is that weak, they are free to test our defences. But they won't. Because they know the SAF will slaughter them.
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

the rankings are based on the threats that each country poses if they ever go full rogue kim jong il batshit crazy.......the north koreans even though primitive by modern standards are extremely brilliant and talented people if u look at their music and arts culture........im not surprised if north koreans are as intelligent as their southern cousins,their nuclear program which has been running for 30 years seems to have bear fruit.

singapore on the other hand poses as much threat as a bee sting if we ever decide to go on full on offensive......do not believe in the lightning strike blitzkrieg bullshit they are telling u,we are nothing like israel......even israel themselves came close to losing a few wars themselves and being conquered.
our tiny army can only do so much before we succumb to the overwhelming size of malaysia and indonesia's populations.
 

Sideswipe

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

the rankings are based on the threats that each country poses if they ever go full rogue kim jong il batshit crazy.......the north koreans even though primitive by modern standards are extremely brilliant and talented people if u look at their music and arts culture........im not surprised if north koreans are as intelligent as their southern cousins,their nuclear program which has been running for 30 years seems to have bear fruit.

singapore on the other hand poses as much threat as a bee sting if we ever decide to go on full on offensive......do not believe in the lightning strike blitzkrieg bullshit they are telling u,we are nothing like israel......even israel themselves came close to losing a few wars themselves and being conquered.
our tiny army can only do so much before we succumb to the overwhelming size of malaysia and indonesia's populations.


during a war, the political warfare is important too. in Malaysia, the 60% Malays and Bumiputeras will resist the invasion to the bitter end. but we could try to get the 40% Chinese and Shit Skins on our side. if they could submit to us, it could be possible to control the vast lands of Malaysia. establish a collaborationist government there like the Japanese supported Wang Jingwei Nanking puppet government of China back then. 以战养战 - use the human, material and financial resources gained from the war to continue the war...
 

Sideswipe

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Our leaders attained top honours in their A-levels and won the top PSC scholarships. Their leadership skills and people skills are not in doubt.

If the indons think our SAF is that weak, they are free to test our defences. But they won't. Because they know the SAF will slaughter them.


you want your son to die a war hero like Major General Lim Bo Seng ? when the enemy comes invading, just surrender to them, can even work as translator traitors for them. in the end, what is most important is to live and survive at all cost like Founding Father back then. right or not ?
 

harimau

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

You guys need to make more babies!!

And parachute all of them down Malaysia after they have grown up.
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

during a war, the political warfare is important too. in Malaysia, the 60% Malays and Bumiputeras will resist the invasion to the bitter end. but we could try to get the 40% Chinese and Shit Skins on our side. if they could submit to us, it could be possible to control the vast lands of Malaysia. establish a collaborationist government there like the Japanese supported Wang Jingwei Nanking puppet government of China back then. 以战养战 - use the human, material and financial resources gained from the war to continue the war...

lets assume for a instance that the malaysian chinese even wants to join us....lets look at the economic tradeoffs for example,in malaysia u can easily own 2 storey house with a garage with 2 or 3 cars for less than 100k USD.........everything is cheap in malaysia,cheap food everywhere cheap groceries,cheap electricity,cheap petrol,their electricity is 70 percent cheaper than ours......most people just want to live an ordinary live,work ordinary jobs,make a ordinary salary and live a ordinary livestyle,all the creature comforts are available in malaysia to the average joe who makes an average income......if u want a comparable lifestyle in singapore u would need at least upwards of 1 to 2 million dollars...

remember in malaysia,the malaysian chinese have a larger presence in the major cities and suburbs of malaysia,unlike the malays and bumiputeras where a large percentage of them live in the kampongs and villages and the less developed parts of malaysia......the malaysian chinese have a larger stake in the economy and more at stake.
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

during a war, the political warfare is important too. in Malaysia, the 60% Malays and Bumiputeras will resist the invasion to the bitter end. but we could try to get the 40% Chinese and Shit Skins on our side. if they could submit to us, it could be possible to control the vast lands of Malaysia. establish a collaborationist government there like the Japanese supported Wang Jingwei Nanking puppet government of China back then. 以战养战 - use the human, material and financial resources gained from the war to continue the war...

also if u think malaysian chinks are weaker than singo chinks u have another think coming,malaysian chinks i assume are made of sterner stuff like lim bo seng are made off and the stronghold of the communist guerrillas,if anything they are more likely to become freedom fighters than jap translators in times of war occupation.singos will crack if u even torture them with no iphone/ipad for a week.
 
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winnipegjets

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Yours truly extracted some sample results

http://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.asp

14th - Indonesia
19th - Taiwan
20th - Thailand
25th - North Korea
39th - Netherlands


with due respect, Yours truly don't agree with the rankings.

How can Indonesia's military be so much stronger than Taiwan, North Korea and Netherlands?

Lots of soldiers in Indon?
 

winnipegjets

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Re: $14 billion/yr in Defence Spending, and we are ranked 64th in Military Strenght?

Our leaders attained top honours in their A-levels and won the top PSC scholarships. Their leadership skills and people skills are not in doubt.

If the indons think our SAF is that weak, they are free to test our defences. But they won't. Because they know the SAF will slaughter them.

SAF slaughter the Indons? What are you drinking? PAP beer?
 
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