Thailand to consider PRC and Russian tanks

Agoraphobic said:

Armored vehicles have never caught my attention nor interest, probably because they are overshadowed by the glamour of military jet fighters and impressive battleships. Even during NS days, at SAF day rehearsals, I didn't bother to watch the AMX-13 tanks going through their runs on the showground. To me, tanks were like sitting ducks, waiting to be fired upon, and while waiting, those inside are getting cooked in some kind of oven, uncomfortable as hell. Now that military days are all in the past, I look at military hardware more in terms of saleability, and commercial aspect rather than fighting capability. For too long, US made hardware has dominated the world, it is good news that other countries' products are being considered an giving US made weapons a run for the money. Thailand, an ASEAN country is now considering PRC and Russian tanks (article below)m whilst in the same publication, Indonesia has purchased Russian Su-35 fighters.

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http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/confirmed-thailands-military-wants-a-new-main-battle-tank/

Confirmed: Thailand’s Military Wants a New Main Battle Tank
The Royal Thai Army is setting up a procurement committee to evaluate Chinese and Russian armor.

By Franz-Stefan Gady
February 12, 2016

Thailand announced this week that it is in the process of setting up a procurement committee to evaluate Chinese and Russian tank models in order to select a new main battle tank (MBT) for service in the Royal Thai Army (RTA), the Bangkok Post reports.
Earlier in the week, the Thai military had initially denied media reports that it is considering purchasing a Russian-made tank, the T-90(M)S MBT. Now, according to Thailand’s ministry of defense, the procurement committee is purportedly considering two different Chinese and Russian MBT models.
Royal Thai Army spokesperson Colonel Winthai Suvaree emphasized that the military will make a decision based on cost-effectiveness. “The Army’s aware it’s taxpayers money,” he said. He did not go into details as to when a selection will be made, nor offer a price estimate.
Thailand’s defense minister, Prawit Wongsuwon, will visit Russia in late February and inspect a T-90(M)S model, whereas RTA chief, General Thirachai Nakwanich, visited China in late January to inspect the Chinese MBT3000 or VT-4 model. A Thai delegation visited Russian main battle tank manufacturer Uralvagonzavod in late December 2015 and expressed interest in both the T-90S and the T-14 Armata MBT.
Both the MBT3000 and T-90(M)S are based on the Soviet-era T-72 tank design and armed with a 125-mm smoothbore gun as their main weapon system. Both tanks are also capable of firing anti-tank missiles, although China’s tank maker Norinco claims that the MBT3000 has superior fire-control systems than any Russian-made tank, including the T-14 Armata. In addition, both tanks are ready for serial-production.
As I reported in early January (See: “Will Thailand Buy Russian T-90 Tanks?”):
In 2011, Thailand placed a $240 million order for the purchase of 49 Ukrainian-made T-84 ‘Oplot-M’ MBTs plus a number of support vehicles with Ukrspetsexport, a Ukrainian state-owned defense contractor. Yet, by the end of 2015, only ten tanks had been delivered to the Royal Thai Army, causing concern over future delays among high-ranking officers in the Royal Thai Army.
Five additional tanks are slated for delivery in early 2016, according Ukrspetsexport, although sources say that Bangkok might opt out of the contract due to the delays altogether. (Thailand was originally supposed to receive 20 T-84 tanks in 2015.)
The exact number of MBTs that Royal Thai Army requires is unknown, although there have been reports that Thailand plans to purchase around 200 new MBTs for its armored formations over the next couple of years.
From 1992 to 2013, Russia’s defense industry sold 1,297 MBTs, whereas Chinese tank makers exported a total of 461 MBTs, according to data from the United Nations’ Register of Conventional Arms. Competition between the two countries for market share in the developing world will be fierce.

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steffychun said:

I recommend Thailand buy the Armata and scare the shit out of the scholar general's Leopard tanks.

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Papsmearer said:

Leo 2 will fuck up the Armata any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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Papsmearer said:

Real lah, where I bluff u?

http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article1270.html

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syed putra said:

Malaysian bought T-90 long long time ago. From Poland. In the 1990's. They were also first to buy MIG29's also in the 1990's.

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syed putra said:

Malaysian bought T-90 long long time ago. From Poland. In the 1990's. They were also first to buy MIG29's also in the 1990's.

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Agoraphobic said:

Armored vehicles have never caught my attention nor interest, probably because they are overshadowed by the glamour of military jet fighters and impressive battleships. Even during NS days, at SAF day rehearsals, I didn't bother to watch the AMX-13 tanks going through their runs on the showground. To me, tanks were like sitting ducks, waiting to be fired upon, and while waiting, those inside are getting cooked in some kind of oven, uncomfortable as hell. Now that military days are all in the past, I look at military hardware more in terms of saleability, and commercial aspect rather than fighting capability. For too long, US made hardware has dominated the world, it is good news that other countries' products are being considered an giving US made weapons a run for the money. Thailand, an ASEAN country is now considering PRC and Russian tanks (article below)m whilst in the same publication, Indonesia has purchased Russian Su-35 fighters.

Cheers!

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sleaguepunter said:

it not T90 per se. It PT91, brought from Poland who modified T72 and call it PT91 Twardy. technically still a T72. the few functioning Mig29 that had not crash are suppose to decommission in 2010 but seem to remain in active in the msia defense TOE but not many are airworthy due to expensive maintainence. btw, I think the most modern aircrafts in Malaysia's book no longer the mig29 but the sukhoi Su30MKM that in operation in 2007.

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Papsmearer said:

Problem with the Mig-29 is the supply chain. I heard that the Mikoyan bureau very competitive at selling their planes, but do not have a good spares and support system. Sukhoi was better. Hence, the Mig-29, which was designed to be easily maintained by conscripts had serviceability issues and hence the decline in availability rate. Also the RMAF is not as on the ball as the RSAF when it comes to maintaining their planes. So all in all a bad combo.

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Papsmearer said:

Kukushit, the author of the article on F-16.net says its a donation in the first line. If you disagree its a donation, kindly write to him and demonstrate your stupidity. We already know how stupid you are here.

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tonychat said:

Made in PRC tanks? Will it blow up while you are in it?

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Originally Posted by Leckmichamarsch
real or not that sg donated F16 to them???

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Papsmearer said:

Real lah, where I bluff u?

http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article1270.html

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Papsmearer said:

Kukushit, the author of the article on F-16.net says its a donation in the first line. If you disagree its a donation, kindly write to him and demonstrate your stupidity. We already know how stupid you are here.

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virus said:

dont worry, no invaders will be able to attack thailand, their traffic jam, agogo bar and massage parlour will take care of any invaders.

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