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[Must Read] Ho Kwon Ping's latest interview Mothership.sg

yellowarse

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I think LKY was just using the label "communists" to get rid of those who threatened him. Everyone hated communists right? Wasn't that the same excuse given for starting NS? Now it is a privilege to do NS:rolleyes:

He went on to use other labels like marxists, chinese chauvinists,... I never understood what's wrong with being a "chinese chauvinist" ?
I guess LKY ran out of scary labels & that's why he turned to suing them for libel:biggrin:

You're right. Old fart just these labels as an excuse to get rid of his enemies. He was Machiavelli incarnated.

By the way, the 'Chinese chauvinist' label was used on Tang Liang Hong, which was couldn't be further from the truth. Tang was English-educated, practised law in English, had a very close friend who was Indian, and speaks Tamil. He even learned Indian dance. How could he be a 'Chinese chauvinist'?
 

syed putra

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LKY was was paranoid about malay muslims and marxists as UMNO are about chinese(who are at one time were mostly marxist). That was why separation was needed.
 

yellowarse

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LKY was was paranoid about malay muslims and marxists as UMNO are about chinese(who are at one time were mostly marxist). That was why separation was needed.

What are you smokin'? The 'Marxists' arrested under Op Spectrum were a bunch of do-gooders working for disenfranchised foreign (Filipina) maids under the auspices of the Catholic Church. That group even included a Catholic priest. You saying that Catholics and Marxists are in the same bed together? Do you know what the communists did to the Catholics in China and Russia?

Jesus, what has Islam done to your grey matter?
 

Rogue Trader

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What are you smokin'? The 'Marxists' arrested under Op Spectrum were a bunch of do-gooders working for disenfranchised foreign (Filipina) maids under the auspices of the Catholic Church. That group even included a Catholic priest. You saying that Catholics and Marxists are in the same bed together? Do you know what the communists did to the Catholics in China and Russia?

Jesus, what has Islam done to your grey matter?

Lky could paint anyone red, call that person a communist and lock him/her up indefinitely. It worked very well for him so whatever traditional political/religious affiliations never mattered for him.
 

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[/B][FONT=open_sansregular]Detention in Singapore, for Ho, was a solitary affair — taken in at age 24, Ho spent two months in a windowless room with the lights permanently on, not knowing night from day, when mealtimes were supposed to be, or if he was feeling hungry at the right times.[/FONT]
“And I remember breaking into cold sweats because you have no sensation of time. You just… you try to be in an environment with absolutely no stimuli, and your mind starts to roam, and you start to think about different things. And you know how when you’re waiting for somebody even? Half an hour you look at your watch, one hour you look at your watch, two hours you look at your watch — imagine that going on endlessly, and you’re going crazy. There’s no watch, there’s no book, there’s no stimulus, there’s no sensation of time. You sometimes are given a meal when you think you’re not hungry at all, and sometimes you’re given a meal when you’re starving, so you’re totally disoriented.”
[FONT=open_sansregular]Ho saw no one for almost a month, until he did a televised confession, which he only got to watch about 30 years later upon (and chiefly because of) his appointment as chairman of MediaCorp. After that, his parents were permitted to see him “once every I don’t remember how long”.[/FONT]
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This experience inspired his proposal to Chiang, saying to her in a movie theatre, “You know, if I’m going to be arrested again, I don’t want to be not allowed to see you. So why don’t we get married?”[/FONT]

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Thankfully for him, she agreed, albeit retorting sharply, “You should never get arrested again!” And off they went to Hong Kong, after he went to NUS to complete one more year of his very-long-drawn-out Economics degree studies.[/FONT]



What the fark, two months only kow peh kow boo, try utmost to make political capital out of it.

Deprive you of a little bit of the usual comforts of life and you confess to what you later say you are not. So, if tortured in wartime, you will reveal all of your comrades in order to save your skin.

Mr. Ho, useless piece of shit, please go and fly kite :oIo:

[video=youtube;CpJi_1f3uKw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpJi_1f3uKw[/video]
 

halsey02

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Lky could paint anyone red, call that person a communist and lock him/her up indefinitely. It worked very well for him so whatever traditional political/religious affiliations never mattered for him.

But now the communists are our good friends, the Vietcong, the PRC, the....?? so, "two legs, good four legs bad" & vice versa.....as long as there is money....everybody is your FRIEND!
 

Asterix

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But now the communists are our good friends, the Vietcong, the PRC, the....?? so, "two legs, good four legs bad" & vice versa.....as long as there is money....everybody is your FRIEND!

Just like the Boston tea party doesn't mean they love tea and hate starbucks ............

[video=youtube;TEpPOkiBllY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEpPOkiBllY[/video]
 

Asterix

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[FONT=open_sansregular]Ho saw no one for almost a month, until he did a televised confession, which he only got to watch about 30 years later upon (and chiefly because of) his appointment as chairman of MediaCorp. After that, his parents were permitted to see him “once every I don’t remember how long”.[/FONT]

His parents pulled some strings?

[video=youtube;ntVAV3c7ntI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntVAV3c7ntI[/video]
 

apogee

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As far as I know, HKP came from a rich family on his maternal side. His mother was a university grad and if I remember rightly, she was a graduate of Berkeley. How many Chinese girls can afford to go to university those days and school in USA. I remember her as an exceptionally bright person.

HKP's father ran his in-law's business. He was stationed in Thailand. When he became ambassador to Thailand, he asked not be paid. He received only $1/- annually as honorarium.
 

yellowarse

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As far as I know, HKP came from a rich family on his maternal side. His mother was a university grad and if I remember rightly, she was a graduate of Berkeley. How many Chinese girls can afford to go to university those days and school in USA. I remember her as an exceptionally bright person..

Mother was Shanghainese Li Lien Fung. Bourgeois family. Born in Shanghai, studied at Cornell. Strongly bilingual. I remember her Bamboo Green columns for ST in the '70s and '80s – she'd write both the English and Chinese versions – talking about her childhood in China.
 

johnny333

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As far as I know, HKP came from a rich family on his maternal side. His mother was a university grad and if I remember rightly, she was a graduate of Berkeley. How many Chinese girls can afford to go to university those days and school in USA. I remember her as an exceptionally bright person.

HKP's father ran his in-law's business. He was stationed in Thailand. When he became ambassador to Thailand, he asked not be paid. He received only $1/- annually as honorarium.


I think they have a home in Binjai Park which is in Bukit Timah.
 

frenchbriefs

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LKY was was paranoid about malay muslims and marxists as UMNO are about chinese(who are at one time were mostly marxist). That was why separation was needed.

LKY should arrest himself,LKY in his younger years was the biggest marxist and socialist.even working for the unionist.

today he has let hordes of communists and marxists into the country,how can anyone not say he is the biggest sympathizers of communist/marxist?

LKY is a world class criminal compared to Chin Peng.
 

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Working with the government
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[FONT=open_sansregular]How did Ho go from journalist to jailbird to islander to businessman, and then go on to work with the Singapore government on so many things?[/FONT]
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Bar labelling him a sell-out, it wouldn’t be a stretch to think he has mellowed out significantly over the years.[/FONT]

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After all, one would expect that being wrongfully detained without opportunity for trial, denied the right to see one’s loved ones and then having to do a televised confession for something he didn’t even agree with, would leave a person bitter at best, vengeful at worst.[/FONT]

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Yet, Ho went on to chair Singapore Power, and apart from starting up SMU, also served on the board of the GIC, the Civil Service College, MediaCorp, Singapore Airlines and the Singapore Tourism Board, among a host of other organisations.[/FONT]

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He, too, admits he is an anomaly among people who were arrested under the ISA — after all, how many former detainees do you see working so prominently and openly in Singapore?[/FONT]

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His views on Lee Kuan Yew
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[FONT=open_sansregular]Ho also maintains his position that he was arrested wrongfully, but here’s what he has to say about it:
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“With all due respect to the government and to (the late) Mr Lee Kuan Yew, who I deeply respect and admire… I do not believe Mr Lee Kuan Yew was correct. I was not a communist, but what I do believe was that he honestly believed that I and other persons that he arrested were a threat to Singapore, for whatever reasons. I do not believe he detained me for his own personal gain, because he was corrupt and I was going to expose him, like 1MDB. He detained me because he thought he had to do it.”
[FONT=open_sansregular]Also, consciously or unwittingly, Ho believes the manner in which the late Lee engaged him in the decades that followed sent him a message of reconciliation, in his own indirect, strategic manner:[/FONT]
“In retrospect now I think he… well, he would never admit it, he’s not the kind of person that would ever admit it, but the fact that after that he was quite nice to me, the fact that he asked me for dinner, for lunch many times, the fact that we had a lot of discussions, the fact that he asked me to join the board of GIC and all these other things, is a man who’s basically said, ‘I’m never going to say sorry but look, would you like to help us out?’ and so on.
Again, I would do the same thing too. We all have our own face and so on. And I think to his mind, quite frankly, his mind would be ‘Why do I have to say I’m sorry? I did what I had to do. And you’re not what I thought, so okay, I come back to you now and ask you would you like to serve the country.’
So I only have the utmost respect for him as a person, not necessarily if you look back now that he’s dead, but I got to know him much better in the later years. He was never a man who ever did a single thing for himself. He could be really excessive, he could be paranoid, a lot of things, and that’s why a lot of young Singaporeans I think realise when he died that he never did anything for himself. And so that’s why I bear absolutely no bitterness.”
[FONT=open_sansregular]Ho then went all Sigmund Freud with the late founding prime minister:[/FONT]
“Somebody said it quite correctly that Lee Kuan Yew was never corrupt because he was too intellectually arrogant. Corruption was below him. Only lesser mortals would be corrupt. And I think that’s partly true. To him, corruption was never a temptation. He never cared about material things. He wanted power, and he had almost absolute power, but lesser mortals would want absolute power to create wealth. He wanted absolute power to create the Singapore that he wanted to create.”
[FONT=open_sansregular]Ho also touched on Lee’s legacy:[/FONT]
“In terms of his legacy I think to me the main legacy is not about, well of course there’s the obvious legacy of creating the country and all that kind of stuff… But what he has left behind is if you look at Southeast Asia and the rest of the world, Singapore is a true exception — is this culture of incorruptibility…
And this is where I kind of think the Western media in some way is somewhat insulting to Singaporeans when they say that we Singaporeans are so stupid, we’ve tolerated this authoritarian government. I think Singaporeans have made a social contract. They basically have said ‘yeah, we know you’re authoritarian, we know you’re this sort of stuff, but you’re doing it for us and we can see you’re not corrupt.’ I think Singaporeans are very strong-minded, and the minute the PAP is corrupt they’ll throw it out. So this culture of incorruptibility is probably his strongest legacy. And he demonstrated it in incredible ways.”
[FONT=open_sansregular]The next question I had, then, naturally, was — was Ho ever invited to tea? The answer, to our surprise, was an honest yes.[/FONT]
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In the ’80s, he said, stressing it was “way back”, while cheekily adding he would not be able to sell copies of his memoirs if he told me more, should he ever opt to pen one.[/FONT]

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I find that Ho is a sellout, he has been bribed by LKY and PAP with highly paid board memberships in GIC and various GLCs, as well as connections for his business interests. The bribes have helped made Ho and his family very rich, and he has changed his tune about LKY completely.

I find it ironic that Ho talks about corruption, because Ho himself is corrupt by accepting the bribes of board memberships from LKY and PAP. I'd take a huge pinch of salt from the words of man corrupted by LKY saying that LKY is not corrupt. Ho then went on to contradict himself by saying that LKY wanted absolute power, which is a form of corruption. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Ho views of LKY sounds very much like it was taken from Hitler's book on lies and propaganda to distort the truth.


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Jah_rastafar_I

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You're right. Old fart just these labels as an excuse to get rid of his enemies. He was Machiavelli incarnated.

By the way, the 'Chinese chauvinist' label was used on Tang Liang Hong, which was couldn't be further from the truth. Tang was English-educated, practised law in English, had a very close friend who was Indian, and speaks Tamil. He even learned Indian dance. How could he be a 'Chinese chauvinist'?


an indian is allowed to be a indian chauvinist same as a malay yet a chinese isn't allowed to. I suppose their definition of chinese chauvinist is someone who doesn't totally bow down to them.
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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LKY was was paranoid about malay muslims and marxists as UMNO are about chinese(who are at one time were mostly marxist). That was why separation was needed.

What are you smokin'? The 'Marxists' arrested under Op Spectrum were a bunch of do-gooders working for disenfranchised foreign (Filipina) maids under the auspices of the Catholic Church. That group even included a Catholic priest. You saying that Catholics and Marxists are in the same bed together? Do you know what the communists did to the Catholics in China and Russia?

Jesus, what has Islam done to your grey matter?

This fucker always twists and turns things around cannot blame him as he's a shit skin mudslime. You read more of his posts you will know cannot take him seriously.
 

Asterix

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Trying to make political capital out of past "achievements" is the sign of a party that has lost touch with the present generation of voters. MCA and PAP is sama sama.

In PeeSai, Pee and Pee even make use of some Banyan Tree towkay to sing praises of Lee Old Fart. History is written by intellectuals. The uneducated "pioneer" generation may blindly vote for Lightning and be screwed and still don't understand why, but they will eventually die off and worse they don't read much less write history books or any kind of books at all except maybe comics. Hence, the use of a fake intellectual but real towkay, Ho Pung Sai, to shore up Old Fart's tarnished "legacy". The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

Love is in the air, everywhere I look around .......

[video=youtube;JrpUFCnf95w]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrpUFCnf95w[/video]
 

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Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.

[video=youtube;g1WI8BUe9Eg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1WI8BUe9Eg[/video]

Which is why only psychopaths can become politicians. You have people insulting you on a daily basis and social media watching your every move. We are bound to make mistakes in life given the flawed creatures we humans are. A nice person would have broken down long time ago.
 

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[FONT=open_sansregular]At this point, he mentions 2011 presidential candidate Tan Cheng Bock, who came in a razor-thin second to President Tony Tan in that year’s polls, noting his extensive career in public life and service.[/FONT]
“I’m not saying that nobody else is better, there may be other people, but if he (Tan) becomes president, is it going to ruin the country? No. So there’s no compelling need, is my point. The only reason I would run would be out of ego. Right?


Surprised until now nobody has picked this up.

Essentially, this proves that Tan Cheng Bok will be the PAP's or the establishment's (does it make a difference?) candidate for President. If elected, Ah Bok will be another Tony Tan or SR Nathan.

Don't say I never warn you even though I gave up on daft Sinkies long, long time ago!

And what kind of fark basis is it to vote for someone as a President - that he is not going to ruin the country? Shows that Ho Pung Sai doesn't understand the role of the President, which is to prevent Parliament (whether PAP dominated or otherwise) from ruining the country! Useless piece of shit!​
 
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