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Only Russian war planes! Now Mikoyan MiG-29 can maneuver like Shukoi SU-35 Video

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[video=youtube_share;bK1GChMOnrQ]https://youtu.be/bK1GChMOnrQ[/video]

[video=youtube_share;M_wc04VQXCM]https://youtu.be/M_wc04VQXCM[/video]
 

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[video=youtube_share;yVlmoNtcyhY]https://youtu.be/yVlmoNtcyhY[/video]

[video=youtube_share;b-VNSJMiNt0]https://youtu.be/b-VNSJMiNt0[/video]

Absolutely no Western Planes can perform close to this. Especially the useless F-22 F-35
 

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What's the purpose? Cannot out maneuver missile. The tech is gg for farther reach missiles without need for visual contact.
 

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They have been bombing ISIS with all these plane to no effect.

Total success that Obama had only jealousy with mouth shut.

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2015-10-25/assad-ready-to-take-part-in-syria-president-elections/

Assad 'ready to take part in Syria presidential election'
Syria's President Bashar Assad
Syria's President Bashar Assad Credit: Reuters

Syria's President Bashar Assad has reportedly told Russian lawmakers he is ready to take part in a presidential election, if the Syrian people support the idea, Russian news agency RIA has reported.

"Assad said that if the Syrian people consider it necessary, he would not be against taking part in presidential elections", lawmaker Alexander Yushchenko is quoted as saying.
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http://www.independent.ie/entertain...t-wilderness-survival-challenge-31491665.html

Jealous of Putin? US President Barack Obama to join Bear Grylls latest wilderness survival challenge

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Barack Obama is to venture into the Alaskan wilderness with British adventurer Bear Grylls for a television programme, it has been announced.


SO OBAMA ATE BEARS' LEFTOVER FISH thinking that was victory over Putin?
:eek::eek::*:
 

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This is really boliao. Real life will encounter a situation like this? Really boliao.

Having the skill and capabilities to do the IMPOSSIBLE is surely advantage. Enemy does not expect you to do the impossible, they are surprised and confused. Their radars and missiles are not programmed and tested to track and hit you with these IMPOSSIBLE flying characteristics.

That video shows the fighter hover down to almost ground and almost zero speed. On radar the enemy thinks it had been shotdown. Will get a big nasty surprise with the DEAD return immediately to attack. Fucking tactical and psychological impact.
 

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Most modern missiles can do mach 2 and take 12Gs. How many can the russian aircraft do?
 

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Most modern missiles can do mach 2 and take 12Gs. How many can the russian aircraft do?

This is Exactly what Russian planes are good at. Out-maneuver missiles.

Missiles have speed, not maneuvering capabilities. In particular, missiles are never made to do SHARP TURNS nor SPEED VARIATIONS. Russian planes just let missile come closer reduce own speed while changing direction, and suddently turn very sharply to opposite direction. Missile will overshoot the Russian jet, have to turen a BIG ARC to come back looking for target. Mostly near out of rocket fuel.

Anti-air Missiles does not have fuel for very long flights. Most of them are mafe to self detonate when missed or overshot. Their locks on targets are to get closer and closer, if the distance to target starts to Increase instead of decrease, their usual designs are to blast immediately, in the hope that some fragments still hit the target. Very few missile can turn around to re-locate a target that broke lose from lock. To do that they need complicated ground commands and ground radar to guide them, subjected to fuel spending.

When a jet managed to dodge a missile once, it hardly need to worry about it twice.
 

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dont be guillible... turning tight corners does not outmaneuver anything. and missiles does not need impact to set off a blast to destroy targets. they r design to be faster then most plane which r still restricted by human's vulnerability to speed and they will be set off on proximity blast that will tear through the aircraft causing enough damage to destroy it.
 

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I was once told: When missile is 5km from you let it lock you, only prepare yourself. When it is 2km Dive fastest vertically towards ground, lure missile to dive behind you, after missile heads toward gound at high speed, it's locking is confused by gound. When it becones inevitable for missile to hit ground, you pull sharply up. It us not able to do the same thing, it will miss you by hundreds of meters and slams ground.

Your plane and skills and guts need to be as good as Russians.
 

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dont be guillible... turning tight corners does not outmaneuver anything. and missiles does not need impact to set off a blast to destroy targets. they r design to be faster then most plane which r still restricted by human's vulnerability to speed and they will be set off on proximity blast that will tear through the aircraft causing enough damage to destroy it.

If the gound was big opened field and you use a 15000cc bus to chase a 200cc motorcycle, try to hit it, it's chance is to turn tiny circles which you can not. You will miss it again and again. If it was straight road no turns, chances are high that you overrun the motorcycle.
 

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Most anti-aircraft missiles are like high speed darts, not capable of turning a small radius arc. Fighter jets like these Russian can turn very incredibly small radius arcs, impossible for missiles to follow. This is crucial at the final stage of pusuit when distance to target is already short. Before the distance becomes short the missiles' disadvantages does not become critical. But when missile chased up at high speed near target and can not follow the target's sharp turning, and abruptly reduced speed, missile have no time nor distance to react. It is going to lost track of target, fly further and further apart from target helplessly.


I avoid to copy this huge article which has mamy pictures, pse click and read:
http://www.ausairpower.net/TE-Evading-Missiles.html


Evading the Guided Missile

Australian Aviation, July, 1987
by Carlo Kopp
© 1987 -* 2012 Carlo Kopp


US Air Force F-105D Thunderchief evading an SA-2 missile over North Vietnam (US Air Force image).

"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, to describe what goes on inside a pilot's gut when he sees a SAM get airborne."
 
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https://www.quora.com/Military-Technology/How-long-can-a-missile-follow-an-enemy-fighter-jet


Military Technology:*How long can a missile follow an enemy fighter jet?
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First off: Missiles typically do not "chase down" fighter jets as misrepresented in movies. An effective missile shot will have the missile reaching the aircraft with a much greater speed (like twice as fast). Aircraft perform defensive maneuvers against missiles, but it is not similar to dogfighting, as you might imagine. They are typically fast, high-G slices (descending turns) that use the missile's high speed against it. (A higher speed means a greater turning radius, which means the missile may not be able to turn into the fighter, but will instead overshoot.)

A missile, when launched at other than point-blank range, will immediately fire its rocket motor and gain as much altitude as possible. Once the motor burns out, the missile then glides to its target. The potential energy it stores in the form of its higher altitude can be spent on either gliding a greater distance to a target, or maneuvering to track a maneuvering target.* It has a fixed amount of energy to spend on either of these, both of which decrease the missile's altitude and speed. In order to be lethal, the missile must have enough energy to arrive at the target's location with sufficient altitude and airspeed to maneuver in the terminal phase and explode within its lethal radius.

Fighter pilots continually evaluate a missile's Pk (probability of kill) against what actions the enemy is likely to take against the missile. To help them judge whether a shot is good, the aircraft displays symbology indicating the missile's effectiveness against different "types" of targets (maneuvering, non-maneuvering, etc.). This symbology appears as a DLZ (dynamic launch zone), a vertical range scale that looks like this:



On the left is a caret that indicates where along the range scale the target currently is. On the right are the lethal ranges for various types of targets. Let's see what they each mean:

Raero (aerodynamic range) is the maximum range the missile can kinetically fly. The missile would burn to its maximum altitude, and then glide its maximum distance with no maneuvering. A missile launched at this range would only be effective against a target that flew in a straight line towards the fighter.

(Note that these ranges represent the range between the fighter and the target at the moment in time when the missile impacts [so-called F-pole range], not when the missile is launched. So, Raero applies to targets that head directly towards the fighter, not targets that remain stationary somehow.)

Ropt (optimal range) is similar to Raero but leaves the missile with enough energy to maneuver in the terminal phase against a defending target (so-called high termination criteria). So in other words, a shot at this range would be effective against a target that heads directly towards the fighter, then performs defensive maneuvers at the terminal phase.

Rpi (probability of intercept) is the same as Ropt but does not require the missile to loft (burn to a higher altitude). A target at this range allows the missile to burn straight ahead towards it.

Rtr (turn-and-run) is the maximum range a target can immediately turn and fly the opposite direction and still be reachable by the missile.

Rmin is the minimum range where the missile can be launched, acquire its target, and explode without posing a threat to the launching fighter.

So, as you can see, if the caret is between Rmin and Rtr (the no-escape zone), you can feel comfortable that any missile you launch is guaranteed to reach its target, no matter what the target does. Of course, that's no guarantee it will hit its target: The target could spoof the missile with countermeasures, or outmaneuver it with a well-executed slice, but the missile will at least be capable of reaching the target no matter what.

The caret as it's positioned now indicates that the missile will most likely not be effective if the target reacts in any way other than continuing to fly straight towards the fighter (which is unlikely). Above the DLZ is a figure indicating that the pilot can help improve the Pk by performing a 35-degree pitch up to save the missile from having to do that portion of the loft maneuver itself.

OK, so to actually answer your question now... As you can tell, "it depends."

How far away was the missile fired? What kind of missile was it? There are lots of missiles with differing thrust and power capabilities. What kind of maneuvering did the target do in the initial and terminal phases of the missile's flight? What kind of maneuvering was required by the missile to perform its loft, and correct its heading? How much energy (airspeed and altitude) did the launching fighter have when it launched the missile?

The shape of the DLZ on the HUD changes constantly as the fighter and its target change their headings, airspeeds, and altitudes.

So, an example. The most common medium-range air-to-air missile is the AIM-120 AMRAAM. The current version is the AIM-120C-7, but data on that missile is classified. We know a bit more about the C-4, and can extract some typical numbers about its performance.

For an AIM-120C-4, you can expect Raero to be around 60 miles, and Rtr to be around 30 miles. These are incredibly ballpark numbers and can vary wildly depending on the specifics of the situation. Remember that these are also F-pole ranges, so a value of 60 represents a range r such that, at the two aircrafts' closure rate, their range would be 60 miles at missile impact.
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With the AIM 120, once it reaches kill zone and turns on the active system, i doubt the pilot have much room to maneuver...
 

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With the AIM 120, once it reaches kill zone and turns on the active system, i doubt the pilot have much room to maneuver...

It is alway before that stage there is maneuvering to dodge, once missile reach within the kill spherical coverage radius, it is game over. Eject if possible, or die. Missile do not have very big radius to kill planes, becos that means big heavy warheads, big payload, bigger rocket engine, heavier fuel. Less mobile launching units and deployment limitations.

So far no AA missile use tactical nuke warhead although the killing sphere of that would be huge.
 
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