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success rate of nuke 1st strike against USA had tripled since cold war

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Putin is now the world #1 nuke czar, with warheads far exceeding US, and missile capabilities far exceeding US, plus newest Borei class subs unmatched globally.

Satan ICBM is rather classic but each missile can nuke 10 independent targets at one lauch, 1200km across Northpole. hundreds of warheads can reach US within 20~30 mins from silo launching, all arriving within the same 15 mins span, far exceeding US interception capacities.

http://www.military-today.com/missiles/ss18_satan.htm

Newer ICBMs that are even harder to track are Topol-M and Yars, lauched from huge trucks or trains, with speed much faster than Satan ICBM, and much more difficult to detect and intercept than Satans.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT-2PM2_Topol-M


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RS-24_Yars

The Yars carries minimum 4 independent ly targeted warheads, with speed exceeding MACH 20, Topol M single large warhead speed MACH 22.

Their launch trucks can fire from anywhere in Russia, no fixed silo.

Thousands of these warheads can strike USA within the same 5 mins span, their flight time 15~20 mins from launch, shorter time if trajectory used Northpole.

The US interception system would be overwhelmed by multiple fold.

The real ACE is Borei Class nuclear subs, which are carrying 20 Bulava ICBMs @ 6~10 independently targeted warheads.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borei-class_submarine


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSM-56_Bulava


Borei can sneak to very near Pacific or Altlantc coasts of USA, such that strike time can be just only 1~2 mins from launch, totally no chance to detect or intercept.

The Bulavas can be launched typically 10000km range, also from below polar ice caps.

Each Borei II subs can launch within less than 15 mins all the 20 Bulavas and nuke 200 targets in the US. Just only from one single sub.


US strategic nuke capabilities had deteriorated very badly since end of Cold Wars, from when they were formally world #1 position. Defense Secretary admitted to ultra pathetic states of equipment and moral in US strategic forces. The entire USA is left with only one single last wrench tool that's used for mounting abd dismounting ICBM warheads,a world laughingstock scandal.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...s-shared-single-spanner-for-450-missiles.html


Putin, Hujintau n Xijinping on the other hand had rapidly developed missile n nuke technologies surpassing USA in both technologies and quality as well as quantities.

Chinese missile interception tests results exceeded US n Russia. DF21 DF26 DF31 DF41 and dozens of very new and drastically advanced missiles are in Chinese PLA arsons.

The Chinese only openly declared a tiny stock of not exceeding 300 warheads. But Russian s disclosed that their Chinese ally have warhead stocks also exceeding USA.

All these are not yet considered with cruise missiles, especially sub-launched nuke-headed cruise missiles, which are typically 2000~3000km range low flying complicated trajectories, next to impossible to detect and intercept.



A firststrike and counter-counterstrike combination is now very high rate of success against USA. Firststrike have to he a very significantly scalefull one, the bigger scale the better chance of success, by saturation attack, overwhelming the defense interception.

Firststrike must be a powerful knockout to deprive as much as possible the US strength of counterstrike. This is key of success. Prime target of strike must ensure KO the US counterstrike means. Achieved that andvthe subsequent counter-counterstrike will only need to be very small scale, intercept mainly just Tridents from surviving US subs.


As long as Firststrike are fast and surprising enough, there will be quite minimum worries of getting a very strong counterstrike. The more coldblooded the strike plan, the better will be the victory.

US lost completely in their nuke-chicken attitude, that they are the world's biggest cowards fearing nuke war when they are the only bastard who nuked another country.


No other countries in this world is so pussy towards nuke war than fucking USA. At all cost and like nobody else the USA dreams to prevent the world from development and applications of nuke arms. That's why so highly top on the list worldwide, US is the #1 nuke target of all nuke powers. There is no other nuke power wirhout USA within their potential target list regardless of how realistic, it's the inevitable stategic consideration.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-emptive_nuclear_strike



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In nuclear strategy, a first strike is a preemptive surprise attack employing overwhelming force. First strike capability is a country's ability to defeat another nuclear power by destroying its arsenal to the point where the attacking country can survive the weakened retaliation while the opposing side is left unable to continue war. The preferred methodology is to attack the opponent's strategic nuclear weapon facilities (missile silos, submarine bases, bomber airfields), command and control sites, and storage depots first. The strategy is called counterforce.


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March 14, 2015

Russia Warns “State Of War” Exists As UK Nukes Prepare First Strike

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers









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The Ministry of Defense (MoD) is reporting today that the Federation is now in a “state of war” thus bringing to full activation President Putin’s “Dead Hand” nuclear order issued 29 July 2014 to The Strategic Missile Forces (SMF).

According to this report, the full activation of the much feared “Dead Hand” nuclear option was authorized under President Putin’s previous order due to the discovery that the nuclear forces of the United Kingdom (UK) were preparing a first strike against military and civilian targets located in the Federation.

The intention of the nuclear forces of the UK preparing a first strike against the Federation, this report says, was revealed by Federal Security Services (FSB) electronic intelligence experts working in conjunction with Kaspersky Lab who discovered last month a massive US National Security Agency (NSA) cyber espionage programme targeting not just Russia, but everyone else on Earth.*

Both the FSB and Kaspersky Lab experts, the MoD reports, were able to swiftly reverse engineer the computer code(s) involved in this massive NSA spying operation which then enabled them to electronically obtain the launching codes and coordinates of all the UK’s nuclear weapons showing their plan to launch a first strike against the Federation during the week of 15 March.

Though information of this highly successful FSB-Kaspersky Lab intelligence operation has been suppressed in the West, some counter-news of it has been reported by a few technical websites, including The Verge which in their article reported yesterday titled “A Network Error Routed Traffic For The UK's Nuclear Weapons Agency Through Russian Telecom”, in part, says:

“For the past week, something strange has been going on in the European internet. For five days, web traffic from Texas to certain addresses in the UK has been routed through Ukrainian and Russian telecoms, taking a detour thousands of miles out of the way. Network traffic often takes a circuitous route as a result of network congestion or interconnection difficulties, but neither one would be enough to account for these routes. Instead, this was the result of a bad route announced by Ukraine's Vega telecom, inserting itself in between.

It's particularly disconcerting because of the sensitive nature of many of the sites involved. Among the dozens of sites involved was the UK's Atomic Weapons Establishment, which is tasked with managing and delivering the UK's nuclear warheads, as well as the UK's official mail service, the Royal Mail. US defense contractor Lockheed Martin was also running a VPN connection that was caught up in the redirection.”

Upon the MoD’s confirmation of the UK’s intention to launch a nuclear first strike against the Federation, this report continues, Russian military forces throughout the country were immediately activated with a special emphasis placed upon massive rocket-artillery maneuvers on the southern borders.

Foreign Minister Lavrov, this report notes, further warned the West this week that Moscow would respond to NATO “in an adequate way” as thousands of Norwegian troops neared the Russian border this week preparing for the influx of a US Marine Expeditionary Brigade, estimated to number between 14-18,000, whose tanks, armored vehicles, artillery, ammunition and battle equipment have flooded into Norway this past year.
 

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Russian General Seeks Nuclear First-Strike Option Against US

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Thursday, 04 Sep 2014 19:54 PM

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A Russian defense minister wants his country's official military doctrine rewritten to allow for a pre-emptive nuclear attack against the United States and NATO, the Russian-language news agency Interfax reports.

Russian Army Gen. Yury Yakubov said the doctrine, last revised in 2010, should be updated to classify the United States and other NATO countries as the "main enemy" of Russia, Interfax reported on Wednesday.

Yakubov, who is from the defense ministry's inspector general's office, also said it is time "to hash out the conditions under which Russia could carry out a pre-emptive strike with the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces," according to a translation of the general's remarks by the English-language Moscow Times.

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Russia categorizes its nuclear arsenal as a defensive measure to be used in the event of an imminent attack that threatens the country's existence, Interfax reported.

Nuclear war talk has crept back into official Russian discourse amid the fighting in Ukraine, where pro-Russia separatists are being armed by Moscow and supported with Russian ground troops.

The United States and the European Union have jointly condemned Russia's actions in Ukraine and imposed successively harsher economic sanctions. The rhetoric from Moscow has followed suit.

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday told children at a Kremlin-sponsored youth camp, "I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers."

Ukraine's defense minister used Facebook on Monday to charge that Russia "has threatened on several occasions across unofficial channels that, in the case of continued resistance, they are ready to use a tactical nuclear weapon against us."

The Russian general's remarks came ahead of joint military exercises between NATO and Ukrainian forces that are scheduled to begin on Sept. 16 and "likely to further fuel suspicions between Moscow and the West," the Toronto Globe and Mail reported.

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Russia Placing Nuclear Missiles in Stratigic position for FIRST Strike from U S
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Published on 8 Aug 2014Russia is busy sorrounding the Ukraine and Positioning itself around the World in anticipation for a U S First Strike. They have been testing the U S Militarily for months and have recently begun to take the U S seriously. They are positioning themselves for a Counter Attack for what they believe will be America's First Strike Nuclear atempt on them. This appears to be the equivalent of the Lead up to the Second world War with Hitler. It is full scale ahead now friends. Just as the Elite Bankers financed HITLER and LURED him into a full scale war, in WW2. They are now financing Putin and luring him into, what they believe, is their trap. After the War they plan on taking over every man woman and child in their one world Government. The Google glasses, and what ever other, Latest Invention they have up their sleave, will be hailed as their GOD.
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Nuke Firststrike on USA must be much more surprising than Peal Harbour, 25X more thoroughly than Pearl Harbour, at least 40000X more lethally than Pearl Harbour, 1000X more swift and accurate than Pearl Harbour. It must be the most decisive and resolute war effort ever in history.

4000~5000 warheads must be delivered to blast within the very same 15~20mins ON-TARGET in US, excluding the number that US could manage to intercept. They have to penetrate the defense in tremendous scale and accurately timed and synchronied.


The Pearl Harbour was not successful enough because it didn't killed any US aircraft-carrier, did not up root the ship repair and ship building facilities, and did not have any follow-up attacks. It left USA only injured, and could recover and retaliate against Japs and eventally nuked Japs.

A correct nuke Firststrike must within less than 1 hour make USA a historical term and permanenly non-recoverable.


It needs to be the surely brute and cold strike, and never consider to look back. 99.999% of US might must become nuke dusts within less than 60mins. Not any longer.
 

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There is firmly assured NEW SUPERPOWER STATUS with un-matched supremacy and tremendous advantages, plus enormous profits from this. Any power whichever managed to nuke USA like this can nearly own any if not all resources globally. The carnage scale starts from 15 millions on day one, minimum. And will increase to at least double in just months.

There will be no more match nor challenges.

Most of the world would instant find the internet blacked out. Massive chain earthquakes detected. Then in 30 hours Tsunami swept globally.

They will figure out in a day or 2 wat happened.
 

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A nuclear war exchange between US/RUSSIA is indeed such a waste if it wipes out all the hot buxomy blondes on both sides.
 

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In a realistic strategy, Russian & Chinese are best allies to carry out this sort of attack jointly. The scope can then realistically cover to a global (most important) level. E.g. Russians nuke Continental US mainland and Chinese to nuke all the external US bases in the globe, there are hundreds: It is so important to do it to reduce the capabilities of US counterstrike.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

Overseas

Afghanistan

Bagram Airfield
Herat International Airport
Jalalabad Airport
Kabul International Airport
Kandahar International Airport
Mazar-i-Sharif Airport
Shindand Air Base

Bahrain

Bahrain International Airport
Sheikh Isa Air Base

Bulgaria

Main article: Bulgarian-American Joint Military Facilities

Bezmer Air Base
Graf Ignatievo Air Base

Germany

Ansbach
NATO Air Base Geilenkirchen, Geilenkirchen
Ramstein Air Base
Spangdahlem Air Base
Wiesbaden

Greenland

Thule Air Base

Guam

Andersen Air Force Base

Honduras

Soto Cano Air Base

Italy

Aviano Air Base
Camp Darby (Pisa-Livorno)
Sigonella Naval Air Station

Japan

Kadena Air Base, Okinawa Prefecture
Misawa Air Base, Misawa, Aomori
Yokota Air Base, Tokyo

Kuwait

Ahmed Al Jaber Air Base
Ali Al Salem Air Base

Netherlands

Joint Force Command Brunssum

Oman

Masirah Air Base
Thumrait Air Base

Portugal

Lajes Field, Azores

Qatar

Al Udeid Air Base

Saudi Arabia

Eskan Village

Singapore

Paya Lebar Air Base

South Korea

Kunsan Air Base
Osan Air Base

Spain

Morón Air Base, Andalucia

Turkey

Incirlik Air Base

United Arab Emirates

Al Dhafra Air Base

United Kingdom

RAF Alconbury, Huntingdonshire
RAF Croughton, Northamptonshire
RAF Lakenheath, Brandon, Suffolk [2]
RAF Menwith Hill, Yorkshire Dales
RAF Mildenhall, Mildenhall [3]

Coast Guard
Main articles: List of United States Coast Guard stations and United States Coast Guard Air Stations
 

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Upon the victory of wiping out USA, Russia & China can order the entire world to surrender on knees, unconditionally. There will be no significant forces to be able to put up any meaningful resistance. The only guys who have balls not to surrender must be just ISIS Taliban Al Qaeda only. :biggrin:

EU NATO Japs India Korea Turkey won't have strength even when fully joint strength to counter Russia-Sino alliance after USA got this nuke carnival. This war will ERASE ALL RULES on Global level as well as Historic level in Entire History. Nothing in history will be able to compare. :wink:
 

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It won't be a rewarding "victory" for the commie partners Russia and China to wipe out the Yanks. Firstly, there won't be anymore American rock bands and musicians to entertain their fans residing in Moscow, and China will not have Walmart stores to sell their goods anymore. And these commie buggers won't be able to lounge around in Starbucks, listen to hip-hop kids from LA, or a chance to visit Disneyland! And about those IS blokes, Ruskies drink vodka, Chinese eat pork, they just won't see eye-to-eye with those loser ISIS.

Cheers!

Upon the victory of wiping out USA, Russia & China can order the entire world to surrender on knees, unconditionally. There will be no significant forces to be able to put up any meaningful resistance. The only guys who have balls not to surrender must be just ISIS Taliban Al Qaeda only. :biggrin:

EU NATO Japs India Korea Turkey won't have strength even when fully joint strength to counter Russia-Sino alliance after USA got this nuke carnival. This war will ERASE ALL RULES on Global level as well as Historic level in Entire History. Nothing in history will be able to compare. :wink:
 

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Just to burst your bubble. Chinese and the Ruskies are not the best of friends.
 

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Just to burst your bubble. Chinese and the Ruskies are not the best of friends.




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It won't be a rewarding "victory" for the commie partners Russia and China to wipe out the Yanks. Firstly, there won't be anymore American rock bands and musicians to entertain their fans residing in Moscow, and China will not have Walmart stores to sell their goods anymore. And these commie buggers won't be able to lounge around in Starbucks, listen to hip-hop kids from LA, or a chance to visit Disneyland! And about those IS blokes, Ruskies drink vodka, Chinese eat pork, they just won't see eye-to-eye with those loser ISIS.

Cheers!

Chinese and Russian leaders all want to root out rubbish American cultural influences from their lands. These are toxic for souls and made people as useless and weak as the Yanks.
 

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What American culture does to people is up to them, but I don't think anyone is able to prevent the proliferation of American influence. McDonald's, Starbucks, Coca-Cola are seen every corner of the world, including Russia and China. I do not know how to measure "strength" of a people, but from looking in magazines, internet scans and other media, American athletes are more prominent than the other two countries in this discussion. Also, ALL Marvel Superheroes are Yanks (except Thor, he is from some Nordic planet Agaard I think), no Russian athlete comes to mind, and the most famous Chinese athlete, Yao Ming, would not be known have he not played in American NBA league. You don't have to like America (many don't), but it is a fact that they are THE dominant power. Also, how to "root out" rubbish American culture? It is so much in demand.

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Chinese and Russian leaders all want to root out rubbish American cultural influences from their lands. These are toxic for souls and made people as useless and weak as the Yanks.
 

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What American culture does to people is up to them, but I don't think anyone is able to prevent the proliferation of American influence. McDonald's, Starbucks, Coca-Cola are seen every corner of the world, including Russia and China. I do not know how to measure "strength" of a people, but from looking in magazines, internet scans and other media, American athletes are more prominent than the other two countries in this discussion. Also, ALL Marvel Superheroes are Yanks (except Thor, he is from some Nordic planet Agaard I think), no Russian athlete comes to mind, and the most famous Chinese athlete, Yao Ming, would not be known have he not played in American NBA league. You don't have to like America (many don't), but it is a fact that they are THE dominant power. Also, how to "root out" rubbish American culture? It is so much in demand.

Cheers!

Nuke USA properly will solve the problems for once and for all. Nukes are best antidotes!
 

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Chinese policies are to civilized and friendly and this they must change ASAP.

Chinese promised (very wrongfully) not to use nuke unless they got nuked. That is a very generous policy, too fucking kind and gentle and today they can not really afford such kindness. Today only a first-strike will ensure survival.
 
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