What is the mentality of Indonesia minister rejecting free foreign help ?

aerobwala · Oct 1, 2015

No grease money :confused:

Indonesia has once again declined Singapore's offer to help fight the haze-causing fires. Indonesia's Environment and Forestry Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar said that Indonesia is trying to handle the situation on its own.

This is a surprising u-turn from media reports of Vice-president Jusuf Kalla calling on Singapore to help. Jusuf Kalla was reported to have said: "Singapore please come and tackle the haze because the effect is also felt by Singapore. We, not to mention Singapore, dislike (the haze). Everyone dislikes it and we have put in extra effort to tackle the fires."

Indonesian President Joko Widodo has ordered the mobilisation of hundreds more troops and enforcement officers to tackle the forest fires, which have caused air quality reach dangerous levels in Riau.

Indonesian and Malaysian environment Ministers will meet in Jarkarta next week to discuss measures for talking the haze crisis. Malaysia's Dr Wan Junaidi Jaafar also added that an MOU will be signed together with Singapore, Thailand and Brunei on the next course of action.

See more at: http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/ar...r-help-fight-haze-crisis#sthash.UC3nQnH0.dpuf

gingerlyn · Oct 1, 2015

many terms and conditions will be imposed once indonesia accepting the help.
we may not know the inside stories

aerobwala · Oct 1, 2015

To beg them do not cut their corporate tax rate ?

May 11, 2015 — 10:24 AM SGT
Updated on May 11, 2015 — 1:58 PM SGT

Indonesia will gradually cut its corporate tax rate to discourage companies from booking profits in lower-tax countries such as Singapore, President Joko Widodo’s top aide said.

The government will cut the rate from 25 percent currently to “maybe 17.8 or 17.5 percent,” Luhut Panjaitan, the president’s chief of staff, said in an interview in Jakarta on May 8. The move adds to plans for a tax amnesty for citizens as the government tries to lift revenue collection.

“We’re going to do it, it’s already being ordered by the president,” Luhut, 67, said at his office in the state palace. “It’s not going to be too much gap from Singapore,” said Luhut, a former ambassador to the neighboring city-state.

Widodo, known as Jokowi, is focusing on shoring up state coffers as he seeks funds to improve the nation’s infrastructure and reach growth of 7 percent. A decline in government spending contributed to a further slowdown in Southeast Asia’s biggest economy last quarter, and Indonesia’s tax collection is falling short of target so far this year.

Economic growth, which cooled to a more than five-year low of 4.7 percent from a year earlier in the three months through March, could recover to 5.3 percent this quarter after the government started to spend its budget in April, Luhut said. The effects of increased state spending will be seen in June or July, he said.

Not Paying

The tax cuts will narrow the gap with Singapore’s rate of 17 percent to stop “transfer pricing,” Luhut said. The term typically refers to the practice of companies transfering goods to a parent overseas before selling internationally and then paying a different tax rate on profits abroad. Indonesia is the world’s largest exporter of palm oil, coal for power stations and refined tin.

“A lot of big companies don’t pay,” said Luhut, the founder of PT Toba Sejahtra, a group with interests in coal, power and agriculture. Luhut said he paid 1 trillion rupiah ($76 million) in tax a year in the past three years.

The government is closely supervising tax officers in its drive to tackle evasion, he said.
The planned tax cuts may prompt some retention of profits onshore, yet it remains to be seen whether that would offset the lower levy, said Wellian Wiranto, an economist at Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. in Singapore.

Tricky Time

“It comes at a tricky time as well when the government is trying to boost the overall tax take,” said Wiranto. “If Indonesia offers enough investment opportunities overall, corporations would be incentivized to keep their earnings onshore on their own accord for better returns.”

Luhut, previously a four-star general in the army’s special forces and a trade and industry minister under former President Abdurrahman Wahid, was hired by Jokowi in December, two months after the president took office and inaugurated his cabinet. His mission is to advise the president on the economy, politics and relations between parliament and political parties, he said.

Jokowi wants his ministers to move quickly, and a cabinet reshuffle can’t be ruled out in the coming months, Luhut said.

“Anything is quite possible,” said Luhut, who maintains a military bearing and a clipped mustache. “I think the president could evaluate this very well and he will make up his mind anytime in June or July whether he can do it after Lebaran,” he said, referring to the Indonesian name for the Muslim celebration of Eid al-Fitr.

Political Divisions

Political divisions between the government and an opposition led by Prabowo Subianto, a former commando who served with Luhut, have improved in recent months, the chief of staff said. He declined to comment on speculation that the National Mandate Party and Golkar party could seek to switch sides to join the Jokowi government in return for cabinet seats.

The government will implement electronic systems to improve tax collection, to boost the number of individual tax payers and reach a tax-to-gross domestic product ratio of 15 percent, Luhut said.

The government is starting a campaign to improve collection by allowing citizens to avoid penalties if they pay five years of unpaid taxes, Finance Minister Bambang Brodjonegoro said in an interview earlier this month.

Indonesia’s tax-to-GDP “ratio is only 11 percent,” Luhut said. “There’s something wrong with this country.”

yellowarse · Oct 1, 2015

Why should the Indonesia go out of their way to help Singapore when S'pore is not even lifting a finger to help Indonesia extradite their rich crooks who launder money here?

Every single treaty Singapore signs with its neighbours is basically premised on a beggar-thy-neighbour policy that advantages us at the expense of others. Witness the water treaty between S'pore and M'sia.

S’pore refuses to renegotiate
extradition treaty with
RI

Hasyim Widhiarto, The Jakarta Post, Singapore | Headlines | Thu, September 29 2011, 8:00 AM

nunun-nurbaeti-daradjatun_1.main%20story.jpg

Nunun Nurbaety (kompas.com)

The Singaporean government said on Wednesday it regarded its current extradition treaty with Indonesia, signed in 2007, as final, despite difficulties the latter had experienced in securing approval from the House of Representatives to ratify it.

Speaking to a group of visiting Indonesian journalists, Singapore’s Minister of State for Home Affairs and Foreign Affairs Masagos Zulkifli said he fully respected the political response to the treaty in Indonesia, but quickly stressed that Singapore would never make it a subject for renegotiation since this would set a bad precedent for the country in the eyes of the international community.

“If we renegotiate the already signed [extradition] treaty, it would mean we might have to renegotiate many other agreements with other countries with whom we have already made commitments,” Masagos said.

Masagos, however, said Singapore would always support the Indonesian government’s efforts to return Indonesian crime suspects residing in Singapore, as long as the latter could provide enough evidence to charge them.

“Even without an extradition treaty, Singapore will give its commitment to supporting the Indonesian government’s efforts in enforcing the law,” he said.

In 2007, Indonesia and Singapore signed an extradition treaty that would have enabled Indonesian law enforcement officers to go after dozens of corruption suspects who had sought refuge in the city-state, along with another agreement on defense that would have granted both countries the right to conduct naval and air military training in each other’s territories.

The long-awaited extradition treaty, however, cannot be ratified because the House refused to approve both the treaty and the defense agreement, saying the agreements favored Singapore and could compromise Indonesia’s security.

“Singapore has never at any time seriously responded to our need to make a pure extradition treaty. Our two countries are supposed to agree on an extradition treaty without relating it to other matters,” House Speaker Marzuki Alie said some time ago in Jakarta.

He was complaining about Singapore’s reported request to be allowed to conduct military training within Indonesian territory in exchange for the extradition treaty.

The two issues were “not correlated”, Marzuki said.

Masagos, however, defended his government’s decision to offer both the treaty and agreement as one package.

He said the country’s defense cooperation agreement with Indonesia was actually mutually beneficial as the 712-square-kilometer city-state needed a wider area to conduct regular military training while at the same time it could provide opportunities for the Indonesian Military (TNI) to use its military equipment.

“As a small country, military training is significantly important for our army so that we are always ready to defend our country from any possible threats. Since the TNI and the Singaporean army have conducted regular joint military training in past years, the [defense cooperation] agreement basically will only legalize the cooperation that has been running [between Singapore and Indonesia],” he said.

According to Indonesia Corruption Watch, as many as 45 people linked to graft cases have fled overseas during the past 10 years, with 20 choosing Singapore as their destination.

The list includes Djoko Soegiarto Tjandra, a businessman convicted of receiving Rp 546 billion (US$60 million) in state funds linked to the Bank Bali bailout in 1999.

Nunun Nurbaeti, a key witness in the 2004 vote-buying scandal, was previously also allegedly in Singapore receiving medical treatment, but her location is now unknown.

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kulgai · Oct 1, 2015

aerobwala said:
No grease money

Indonesia has once again declined Singapore's offer to help fight the haze-causing fires. Indonesia's Environment and Forestry Minister Siti Nurbaya Bakar said that Indonesia is trying to handle the situation on its own.

This is a surprising u-turn from media reports of Vice-president Jusuf Kalla calling on Singapore to help. Jusuf Kalla was reported to have said: "Singapore please come and tackle the haze because the effect is also felt by Singapore. We, not to mention Singapore, dislike (the haze). Everyone dislikes it and we have put in extra effort to tackle the fires."

Indonesian President Joko Widodo has ordered the mobilisation of hundreds more troops and enforcement officers to tackle the forest fires, which have caused air quality reach dangerous levels in Riau.

Indonesian and Malaysian environment Ministers will meet in Jarkarta next week to discuss measures for talking the haze crisis. Malaysia's Dr Wan Junaidi Jaafar also added that an MOU will be signed together with Singapore, Thailand and Brunei on the next course of action.

See more at: http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/ar...r-help-fight-haze-crisis#sthash.UC3nQnH0.dpuf

They are not interested to solve the problem. What they really want is cold hard cash.

Leckmichamarsch · Oct 1, 2015

very obviously he took bribes n has vested interests that fire not doused so soon............ in RI it is always self interests first

VanHalen · Oct 1, 2015

they die also want face :rolleyes:

xpo2015 · Oct 1, 2015

big country must listen to small country?

damn malu you know?

mojito · Oct 1, 2015

Silly TS. Your flat got smell, neighbour offer to clean up for you can or not? :rolleyes:

virus · Oct 1, 2015

if the neighbour's dotter cheebye itchy, I will offer to scratch for her.... all in the name of kampong spirit.

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