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2 mat detained under ISA are SDP members. No wonder SDP want to cut defence budget

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Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) member Muhammad Shamin Mohamed Sidek 29, and Muhammad Harith Jailani, 18, were detained in August this year. Investigations showed that they had harboured the intention to make their way to Syria to join the terrorist group Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and engage in violence there, MHA said.

Shamin was influenced by ISIS’s online radical propaganda and was earlier convicted and sentenced to three months’ jail under Section 267C of the Penal Code for inciting religious violence through his pro-ISIS postings on social media. MHA said he continued to express support for ISIS throughout his three-month imprisonment and was thus arrested under the ISA in July this year to assess if he posed a threat to Singapore's security.

Subsequent investigations by the Internal Security Department showed that Shamin planned to travel to Syria to join ISIS once he had raised enough money to fund the trip.

Now even terrorist wants to be MP.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/2-self-radicalised/2160364.html?cid=fbsg
 

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Zero just about fits your credibility.
 

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toothless SAF can't beat mighty ISIS anyway :biggrin:
 

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What's his moniker in sammyboy?
 

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Re: 2 mat detained under ISA are SDP members. No wonder SDP want to cut defence budge

During the early 80s, Tharman Shanmugaratnam was also hauled up by the ISD for a series of interrogations. He was also charged under the Official Secrets Act in 1993 for releasing classified economic information. Yet today he is the DPM.

Its funny how we conveniently forget about a man's history just because he is popular.

Equally amusing is how some PAP IBs like to draw adverse inference on opposition parties when their members fall into disrepute, yet turn a blind eye to the dark history involving their own party members over the years.
 

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http://notmysdp.blogspot.sg/2009/11/singapore-democratic-party-exposed-2.html

From: Muhummed Shamin Mohammed Sidek ([email protected])

Hi,
I agree that we need to work together as a team. I remembered the poll TOC had on it's website regarding the youth wings that people identify themselves with, Young Democrat had the 2nd highest vote. I guess people voted us because they looked at the parent party. If people knew the realities of the group and how active it was, people might not have voted us overwhelmingly.
We should find the root of the problem and not be pointing fingers at one another. We can look a few questions to discuss and think of a solution to it.

1) Is it a leadership issue?
2) Is it that members just can't be bothered?
3) Members feel alienated from the party as whole?
4) Members are afraid to be publicly identified with the party itself?

I am sure that all of us have our problems that becomes a stumbling block which prevents us from committing. Being youth, we also have other pursuits and problems such as trying to get a job, financial difficulties and other personal issues. Some of us would aspire to be members of parliaments while other would just want to help out.
As of now, I believe all of us joined the party because, firstly, we saw the PAP and the system that they have established as our enemy and secondly, we agreed with the parties goals. So we should all be working together towards the party goals.

I hope that we are able to overcome this commitment issue and move on from here.

Muhammad Shamin
Member
Young Democrats
So Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) still don't wanna comment?
 

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End of SDP. Nobody will support them anymore.
 

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Poor chap. He wanted to get real combat experience and was caught. No justice in this country. Why bother with NS and not allow people to use the knowledge?
 

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Scary thought: Has ISIS infiltrated opposition parties? See comment for screen cap of news report of SDP admitting Sharmin was a SDP member.

Muhammad Shamin Mohamed Sidek, 29, and Muhammad Harith Jailani, 18, were detained in August this year. Investigations showed that they had harboured the intention to make their way to Syria to join the terrorist group Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and engage in violence there, MHA said.

Shamin was influenced by ISIS’s online radical propaganda and was earlier convicted and sentenced to three months’ jail under Section 267C of the Penal Code for inciting religious violence through his pro-ISIS postings on social media. MHA said he continued to express support for ISIS throughout his three-month imprisonment and was thus arrested under the ISA in July this year to assess if he posed a threat to Singapore's security.

Subsequent investigations by the Internal Security Department showed that Shamin planned to travel to Syria to join ISIS once he had raised enough money to fund the trip.

Shamin had also decided that if he was unable to join ISIS, he would consider fighting alongside a regional militant group that he considered to be aligned with ISIS. "He was undeterred by his arrest under the ISA and said he would pursue his plans to join ISIS after his release from detention. Shamin said he was prepared to die in the course of defending the ‘caliphate’ that was declared by ISIS," MHA added.
 

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A scary situation if terrorist or ISIS has infiltrated opposition parties. A nightmare if an infiltrated opposition managed to get into parliament to push for ISA to be abolished and defense or NS to be cut.

DID YOU KNOW Muhammad Shamin Mohamed Sidek, 29, were detained in August this year, right before the election. But this news was not disclosed until after the election so that it cannot be used against the opposition?
 

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Only one group of people in Singapore has consistently wanted to destroy our country. They are Muslims. Muslims always try to destroy the country they are from. Whether it is a Muslim country or a non-Muslim country these rabid monkeys will never live in peace. They are cursed by Satan himself to be his slaves and to do his demonic work on earth.

All Muslims deserve death too then. Only Muslims want to enslave, rape, murder those that are different from them. Muslims worship a Satanic being in Allah and his pedophile, rapist, mass murderer prophet Mohammed. Since Muslims invaded so many countries and raped, enslaved and murdered hundreds of millions then all Muslims deserve to be punished. Since a Muslim killed an Australian then all Australians should kill all Muslims. You fucking bastard Muslims love nothing more than death. You dirty fucking monkeys are the ones that deserve all the punishment you receive.

The Myth: Muhammad Would Never Approve of Rape
The Truth:

Muhammad actually encouraged the rape of others captured in battle. This hadith provides the context for the Qur’anic verse (4:24):

The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) sent a military expedition to Awtas on the occasion of the battle of Hunain. They met their enemy and fought with them. They defeated them and took them captives.
Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn't Muhammad, but "Allah the Exalted" who told the men to rape the women in front of their husbands - which is all the more reason not to think of Islam as being the same as other religions.

Note also that the husbands of these unfortunate victims were obviously alive after battle. This is important because it flatly contradicts those apologists who like to argue that the women Muhammad enslaved were widowed and thus unable to fend for themselves. (Even if the apologists were right, what sort of a moral code is it that forces a widow to choose between being raped and starving?)

There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear opportunity to disavow raping women - yet he instead offers advice on how to proceed. In one case, his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant. Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?" The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)
As indicated, the prophet of Islam did not mind his men raping the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/muhammad/myths-mu-rape.htm
 

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now it makes a lot of sense for them to propose to do away with ISA and cut defence spending.
 
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