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Sample Count BS - PAP is trying to steal the election

winnipegjets

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PAP wants the sample count to show that they are leading so that expectations of an Opposition victory can be tempered.

It is so easy to manipulate the sample count ...pick a ballot box that the Election Department has ensure most of the votes are PAP and use that for their sample count result.

Why are they doing that? To dampen Opposition supporters expectation. If the results are not in favour of the PAP, the election department officials can do dirty tricks to ensure a PAP victory. And no adverse reactions from Opposition supporters as the Sample Count as tone them down.

The Election Department could have used an exit poll instead which would be more accurate.
 

Froggy

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This is the first time this sample count is used.

So strange PAP's counts are overwhelming across the board.


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Cosmos10

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These results are too skewed to be believable.

When I see Jeanette getting only 28%

I begin to be suspicious.
 

eErotica69

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PAP wants the sample count to show that they are leading so that expectations of an Opposition victory can be tempered.

It is so easy to manipulate the sample count ...pick a ballot box that the Election Department has ensure most of the votes are PAP and use that for their sample count result.

Why are they doing that? To dampen Opposition supporters expectation. If the results are not in favour of the PAP, the election department officials can do dirty tricks to ensure a PAP victory. And no adverse reactions from Opposition supporters as the Sample Count as tone them down.

The Election Department could have used an exit poll instead which would be more accurate.

Sample count before ballot close is cheating cos it will affect people's decision to vote. After the ballot closes,, sample count do not affect anyone's decision to vote and as such do not affect the end result.

A lead in a sample post and losing in the final count will make PAP look worst.
 

Cosmos10

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And it is hard to believe that the SingFirst is doing worse than the SDA in Pasir Ris.

I am going to sleep.

Just waiting for Holland Bt Timah.
 

parrardee

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Sample count before ballot close is cheating cos it will affect people's decision to vote. After the ballot closes,, sample count do not affect anyone's decision to vote and as such do not affect the end result.

A lead in a sample post and losing in the final count will make PAP look worst.

No point to explain to this useless loser cos his mind is too closed to accept anything.
 

winnipegjets

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The Election Department designated certain ballot boxes that PAP votes would be the majority. Then those boxes would be the source of sample votes.

There won't be a need for sample votes if the Election Department release the result after each box is counted.

Were the candidates allowed to check that the ballot boxes were empty before being sealed? Are candidates or agents of candidates allowed to escort the ballot boxes to the polling centres and then to the counting centres?
 

laksaboy

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This was what happened in Africa some years ago. :biggrin:


http://www.mozambique.mz/awepa/eawepa60/eawepa60.htm



Dhlakama rejected the sample count done by the electoral observatory which showed the he had been convincingly defeated. He said he respects the people that run the Electoral Observatory, but that their count was based on fraudulent results sheets (editais). He cited three areas of fraud:

1) He said that on the night between 1 and 2 December, the two days of polling, police prevented Renamo party delegates from sleeping with the ballot boxes. At one point in the interview he says this occurred "in all polling stations" and at another point only in Tete, Niassa, Cabo Delgado and Gaza. International observers paid close attention to this issue, and reported just the opposite -- that in nearly all places Renamo delegates did sleep with the ballot boxes. It is also noted that over night, all ballot boxes are sealed with numbered tags in the presence of all party delegates and observers, and then the seals are cut in the morning in the presence of the delegates. Dhlakama claims that the massive fraud took place during the night, when the boxes were opened and ballot papers changed. In effect, Dhlakama is charging that many of his own delegates lied to the party when they said they were present when the ballot boxes were sealed and reopened the next morning. Under the circumstances, this allegation seems highly unlikely.

2) He said that in Gaza Renamo discovered 237 editais already in the computer, each with 1000 votes. In Zambezia Renamo discovered 70,000 votes for Guebuza which had not been put in ballot boxes. Dhlakama said he would give proof of this at a press conference at 10 am today.

3) Dhlakama cited Changara, in Tete, where indeed there is evidence of ballot box stuffing or fraudulent editais. But in the interview, he exaggerated. He said that where 500 people are registered, there are 1500 votes for Guebuza. In fact, the computer would reject any edital which said that. Observers have seen examples in Changara and elsewhere where 95% of those registered voted, and all were for Guebuza. Even so, the number of polling stations where this has been identified is still only a handful. Fraud indeed, but not he "massive fraud" needed to question Guebuza's victory.

On balance, then, the two of Dhlakama's allegations which would invalidate the Electoral Observatory sample count are not convincing. But if he can prove large numbers of false votes in Gaza and Zambezia, he would indeed bring the whole election into question.


Ah well, if the PAP wins resoundingly then that's that. Sheep electorate, say hello to government of wolves. :wink:
 

da dick

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sample votes less than 1% of total votes. in conclusive. just hope they dun "massage" the rest of the numbers.
 

wendychan

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singaporeans deserve to be screwed then for the next 5 years. bribery and threats WORK
 

Cosmos10

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In the first place, why do they introduce this sample count business this election?

I think they should just stick to announcing after all votes are counted.
 

myfoot123

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In the first place, why do they introduce this sample count business this election?

I think they should just stick to announcing after all votes are counted.

I still don't believe in sample shit. Look at all the past statistic screwed and fixed by the PAP. This sample shit is probably the PAP idea, to mislead, confuse and create false alarm. In 2011 all the results came out only until around 2.30pm. This election, almost all result came out within minutes. What the shit is happening? PAP cannot be trusted for anything and the election dept is worse.
 

Cosmos10

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I still don't believe in sample shit. Look at all the past statistic screwed and fixed by the PAP. This sample shit is probably the PAP idea, to mislead, confuse and create false alarm. In 2011 all the results came out only until around 2.30pm. This election, almost all result came out within minutes. What the shit is happening? PAP cannot be trusted for anything and the election dept is worse.

Well said. Usually GRC results would not be announced until well past 2.00am.

Until our election dept is independent, I do not trust anything.
 

Cosmos10

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Holland Bukit Timah GRC is one of the biggest GRCs, with almost 95000 votes.

How can the results of this big GRC be announced so early?
 
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