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ESM: SGs to listen to both PM and Alternativ Before Voting! Be Careful of Civil War!

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ESM: Voters savvy about what they want
ROYSTON SIM and JERMYN CHOW

WHILE voters wanted a Group Representation Constituency to go to the opposition in 2011, they are concerned about the future this time round and weighing their options very carefully, said Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong.

Speaking at a press conference yesterday, ESM Goh gave his observations on the 2015 General Election. "People are very savvy as to what they want for the country," he said.

He urged voters to listen to both Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and the opposition, before thinking through carefully and deciding what is in their best interests.

ESM Goh is part of a five-member team from the People's Action Party (PAP) contesting Marine Parade GRC against the Workers' Party (WP). The PAP slate also includes anchor minister Tan Chuan-Jin as well as backbenchers Fatimah Lateef, Seah Kian Peng and Edwin Tong.

ESM Goh said that his priority during his time as prime minister was to build consensus.

He gave the analogy of voters as a piece of fabric, tugged in different directions. The sooner people can be brought together after the general election, the sooner the country can be taken forward, he said.

There can be a diversity of views but it is not good if the country does not unite, he said, citing Sri Lanka, which was split by a long-running and bloody civil war.

=> Wah seh! Need to be so dramatic or not? Do the FAP treat SGs as violent terrorists as they are daft? Civil war will only happen if the incumbent refuses to respect the electorate's wish and call in the army if the electorate so chooses to vote them out!


The next task for PM Lee after the elections is to form a new government, ESM Goh said.

A "very strong team" is needed, as every minister has strengths and weaknesses, he added. The exception, he said, was founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, who "was all strength and no weakness".

=> Wa lau weh! And we think that such godification happens only in dictatorships like NK! And coming from a supposedly elderly of wisdom!


Mr Tan, Minister for Social and Family Development, offered four considerations to voters during the press conference.

"One, how do we keep Singapore relevant? Two, is it important to have strong leadership? Three, what kind of system do we want? Four, what kind of nation do we want to be?" he said.

=> Indeed, the way FAP has run the country for the last decade, SGs are but a second thought and irrelevant to them. And the so-called 'strong leadership' is used to suppress critics and bring in foreigners to replace SGs like nobody's business. Time to put the country back to right footing i.e. this country does not belong to one Familee; this country is NOT a corporation; this country is a society that is made up of different kinds of people, and does not exist for the sole benefit of a connected group of elites or natural aristocrats!


Asked for their response to the WP saying they can manage Marine Parade Town Council, Mr Tan said he would leave it to residents to decide for themselves.

=> The TC is but a political tool of the FAP to entrench its own rule and incur unnecessary additional layer costs. Municipal duties should be taken care of by HDB, NEA and other statutory boards like in the past! There is so much obfuscation in the system now that each organization pushes its responsibility that the FAP needs to form another stat board to oversee all of them with yet more costs. And this is how bloated the FAP has become. Time to trim its fat!

Mr Seah, the vice-chairman of Marine Parade Town Council, said voters should look at the parties' track record.

As to why the PAP did not have an election rally in Marine Parade, Mr Tan said they decided against it as it was not effective in engaging residents directly. He noted that several PAP GRC teams did not stage rallies as well, such as Jurong GRC and West Coast GRC.

=> Just admit that few people would attend the FAP's rallies. There is really nothing wrong with it since this is the natural outcome if the people feel they cannot connect with the FAP anymore.


ESM Goh said he supported Mr Tan's reasons for not having a rally.

He cited how his team picked up the sense that private estate residents wanted more upgrading programmes, and would look into this. These are things that are not picked up at rallies, he added.
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This Wooden Arse Hole is the Mother of all Rumour Mongers.
What next, call in the army?
 

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....There can be a diversity of views but it is not good if the country does not unite, he said, citing Sri Lanka, which was split by a long-running and bloody civil war.

Lan-jiao wey lah. Scare tactics to frighten and intimidate pro-oppo voters. Woody forgot sinkies should be allowed to exercise their voting rights free from intimidation and fear. Just like LKY tried to intimidate voters in GE 2011 in Aljunied GRC. This Woody never learned the lesson that sinkies gave to LKY.

Voters in sinapor will tell him to go catch spider come polling day on Sep 11.
 

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http://mypaper.sg/top-stories/esm-voters-savvy-about-what-they-want-20150910

ESM: Voters savvy about what they want
ROYSTON SIM and JERMYN CHOW

WHILE voters wanted a Group Representation Constituency to go to the opposition in 2011, they are concerned about the future this time round and weighing their options very carefully, said Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong.

Speaking at a press conference yesterday, ESM Goh gave his observations on the 2015 General Election. "People are very savvy as to what they want for the country," he said.

He urged voters to listen to both Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and the opposition, before thinking through carefully and deciding what is in their best interests.

ESM Goh is part of a five-member team from the People's Action Party (PAP) contesting Marine Parade GRC against the Workers' Party (WP). The PAP slate also includes anchor minister Tan Chuan-Jin as well as backbenchers Fatimah Lateef, Seah Kian Peng and Edwin Tong.

ESM Goh said that his priority during his time as prime minister was to build consensus.

He gave the analogy of voters as a piece of fabric, tugged in different directions. The sooner people can be brought together after the general election, the sooner the country can be taken forward, he said.

There can be a diversity of views but it is not good if the country does not unite, he said, citing Sri Lanka, which was split by a long-running and bloody civil war.

=> Wah seh! Need to be so dramatic or not? Do the FAP treat SGs as violent terrorists as they are daft? Civil war will only happen if the incumbent refuses to respect the electorate's wish and call in the army if the electorate so chooses to vote them out!


The next task for PM Lee after the elections is to form a new government, ESM Goh said.

A "very strong team" is needed, as every minister has strengths and weaknesses, he added. The exception, he said, was founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, who "was all strength and no weakness".

=> Wa lau weh! And we think that such godification happens only in dictatorships like NK! And coming from a supposedly elderly of wisdom!


Mr Tan, Minister for Social and Family Development, offered four considerations to voters during the press conference.

"One, how do we keep Singapore relevant? Two, is it important to have strong leadership? Three, what kind of system do we want? Four, what kind of nation do we want to be?" he said.

=> Indeed, the way FAP has run the country for the last decade, SGs are but a second thought and irrelevant to them. And the so-called 'strong leadership' is used to suppress critics and bring in foreigners to replace SGs like nobody's business. Time to put the country back to right footing i.e. this country does not belong to one Familee; this country is NOT a corporation; this country is a society that is made up of different kinds of people, and does not exist for the sole benefit of a connected group of elites or natural aristocrats!


Asked for their response to the WP saying they can manage Marine Parade Town Council, Mr Tan said he would leave it to residents to decide for themselves.

=> The TC is but a political tool of the FAP to entrench its own rule and incur unnecessary additional layer costs. Municipal duties should be taken care of by HDB, NEA and other statutory boards like in the past! There is so much obfuscation in the system now that each organization pushes its responsibility that the FAP needs to form another stat board to oversee all of them with yet more costs. And this is how bloated the FAP has become. Time to trim its fat!

Mr Seah, the vice-chairman of Marine Parade Town Council, said voters should look at the parties' track record.

As to why the PAP did not have an election rally in Marine Parade, Mr Tan said they decided against it as it was not effective in engaging residents directly. He noted that several PAP GRC teams did not stage rallies as well, such as Jurong GRC and West Coast GRC.

=> Just admit that few people would attend the FAP's rallies. There is really nothing wrong with it since this is the natural outcome if the people feel they cannot connect with the FAP anymore.


ESM Goh said he supported Mr Tan's reasons for not having a rally.

He cited how his team picked up the sense that private estate residents wanted more upgrading programmes, and would look into this. These are things that are not picked up at rallies, he added.
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wow can you believe the hyporcrisy of this extra senile old goat? after flooding the country with millions of foreigners and destroying the fabric of the country and he still got the cheek to talk about division
 

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The exception, he said, was founding prime minister Lee Kuan Yew, who "was all strength and no weakness".

Woody must be poor student in history. LKY excelled in his time because it was then a tumultuous era in 1950s. No weakness? Why LKY cried after separation from Malaysia? Strong man does not cry.

CSJ was made bankrupt, went to jail and he never shed a tear. A strong man with an iron will to pursue his dream and conviction. This is the kind of politician needed in the country.. not the kind of pappies' woman MP Grace Fu who wanted to quit politics if her pay was cut.
 

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A lot of other organisations got to be cleansed of the pus, rot and corruptions injected by PAPs.
Especially the law courts and the media

But first get the fucking PAPs out

Now is not the time to rest.
You have all the rest that you want after the elections.
Keep fighting hard and give no quarters
Keep talking to all your friends and relatives and neighbours
Keep talking to them how PAP screwed us Singaporeans up so they can laugh all the way to their banks
GIVE NO QUARTERS
TAKE NO PRISONERS
KICK OUT ALL THE FUCKING PAPs


"If I lose one or more of my Heavyweight Ministars in a freak election, we will be Finished!"

Nobody dare to talk this kind of garang talk anymore? :rolleyes:


Is there even one PAP ministar who is not a clown or a flea weight Minister?
The combined efforts of all the PAP ministars cannot match the productivity of a 85 year old collecting cardboard , and thats done only as exercise

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Can any of the PAP bastards point out just one heavy weight PAP minister, and what the fuck he had done to claim that title of heavy weight?

Not even one can be named?

Then that fucking statement about Heavyweight ministers just another of the fucking lies PAP have been giving all of us together with their usual lies

KICK OUT ALL THE CORRUPT ROTTEN PAP BASTARDS


The tsunami to cleanse Stinkapore into Singapore is building up
But do not take it easy
Continue your efforts all the way and make it happen

Please be statesmen
Keep your eye on the ball.
The worse enemy of Singaporeans is the corrupt rotten PAPs trying to create their Stinkapore
We are in the battle of our life and your family lifes and for Singapore.
Regardless which party affiliation, WP, SDP, RP, NSP ,SPP or any other party or Independent
Do not run down any oppositions
Keep your eye on the ball
Support ALL OPPOSITIONS
Attack the PAP and only the PAP as they are the rotten bastards
Fight for Singaporeans Singapore


Singaporeans man your battle stations!
Singapore needs you now!

Put your support for Singapore on Facebook
Twitter to your friends
WhatsApp to your friends
Get a tsunami of support for Singapore Singaporeans


OPPOSITIONS ARE THE DIFFERENT FACES OF THE TRUE SINGAPORE
PAP IS THE FACE OF SEPTIC OVERFLOWING TOILET BOWLS AND CORRUPTIONS AND OF STINKAPORE




Cleanse PAP Stinkapore into Singaporeans Singapore.
Vote only opposition
Vote out all the fucking corrupt PAPs


This fight is not just your voting for opposition, any opposition against the PAP
Singaporeans must do much more than just relying on their single vote.
Give them the money to support them in the fight.
Give them your time and energy to support them in the fight
They fight for you Singaporeans
They fight our common enemy
They fight the PAP and cronies, corrupt and rotten to the core, who stole over 180 billions from Singaporeans, and intent on stealing even more from us.


Support Opposition, any Opposition, all Opposition
Regardless if they have primary school, or O levels or A levels or PhD
Regardless if they wear singlets, or tuxedos
Support Opposition, any Opposition, all Opposition
Regardless if they wear slippers, or wear sneakers or shoes
Support Opposition, any Opposition, all Opposition
Even if a rat crawl out of a sewer and stand as Opposition
Even if a cockroach with 6 legs and 2 long feelers at the head become Opposition
They will be much better for Singaporeans than the fucking corrupt perverted PAPs who only think of laughing all the way to their banks and back from the banks
Under the fucking PAP, Singaporeans are the 4th class citizens in their own land stolen from them by PAP
PAPs are the 2nd class citizens with the Lee family as the first class aristocrazies
Fts are taken in as the 3rd class citizens kicking singaporeans into the 4th class and sinkies good only to go head down down and arseholes up high high to be fucked and tiewed by PAPs laughing all the way to their banks.

 

makapaaa

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Woody must be poor student in history. LKY excelled in his time because it was then a tumultuous era in 1950s. No weakness? Why LKY cried after separation from Malaysia? Strong man does not cry.

CSJ was made bankrupt, went to jail and he never shed a tear. A strong man with an iron will to pursue his dream and conviction. This is the kind of politician needed in the country.. not the kind of pappies' woman MP Grace Fu who wanted to quit politics if her pay was cut.

This then reveals the mindset of the FAP i.e. they can do no wrong. If the FAP wins landslide - and it looks like they will, SGs can expect life to be very tough going forward.
 

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It is the PAP who is DIVISIVE, CONFRONTATIONAL and always play DIRTY. Sabotage and using civil service and PA/Grassroots to fix up duly elected opposition MPs. The current PAP has NOT moved beyond the 1960's PAP of LKY era of WINNER takes all akin to ancient China dynastic rule NOT the Westminster Democracy style.

If ever the PAP becomes the opposition, they would surely be the ones stirring up civil unrest and a wise and prudent NON PAP govt should unleash the FULL FORCE of the Internal Security Act on every PAP member/grassroot supporter.
 

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This then reveals the mindset of the FAP i.e. they can do no wrong. If the FAP wins landslide - and it looks like they will, SGs can expect life to be very tough going forward.

This laugoh is so hopelessly out-of-touch and unstatesmanlike despite his lofty title as ESM.:rolleyes: This char tau is also a serial fear-monger. What civil war is he speculating about? The closest thing to a war was the Little India riot and as far as the majority of Singaporeans are concerned, the government and the police mishandled the situation. Singaporeans only want to live a happy and less stressful life in a not so crowded space with reliable public transportation. U understand or not, cb mouth and super high-earning overstayer? Stop spouting rubbish and pretending to be so clever and self-important and maybe you will garner more respect.:biggrin:
 

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Sometimes you wonder if the sole purpose of GCT still hanging around and blabbering on, is to make the feckless LHL look good by comparison. :rolleyes:
 

JHolmesJr

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The sri lankan problem was due to a bunch of tamils in the north wanting to break away from the Sinhalese rule….I hardly think marine parade wants to break away from singapore….goddamn looney.
 

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bloody liar,,,,,,

they also applied for rally site for marine parade but lost the draw to wp,,,,

knnb
 

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Do not expect much from someone with ESM title. Which 1st world country has this or something close to ESM? PAP chut many pattern -SM, MM and ESM. All chobolan.
 

makapaaa

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The sri lankan problem was due to a bunch of tamils in the north wanting to break away from the Sinhalese rule….I hardly think marine parade wants to break away from singapore….goddamn looney.

Indeed, if there is any major conflict, it will probably be between different nationalities or between SGs and foreigners. And the FAP is the root cause of the problem.
 

hairylee

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Eat Shit Minister Goh.
The only Multi-millionaire ESM in the world.
Win or lose no difference to him.
 

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This country already goin down the drain with the Pappies in charge.. no harm giving the Opposition parties like WP, SDP the opportunity to run the country... the Pappies have been treating themselves as Overlords of this country for decades.. No need to spread fear you fuckin Woody... You can continue to con the old folks with your frightening what ifs scenarios but you cant con the new generation of Sporeans...
 
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