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ST Ed worries SG’s scholar model under threat

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[h=2]ST Ed worries SG’s scholar model under threat[/h]

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August 19th, 2015 |
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ST Editor-at-Large, Han Fook Kwang


Han Fook Kwang, Editor-at-large of ST, recently wrote an article (“Lui’s
bombshell: It’s about more than transport”, 16 Aug) pointing out that the
scholar-minister model of political renewal may be under threat.

Mr Han quoted the example of Transport Minister Lui’s decision not to
continue in politics only after 2 terms.

“The ramifications of Mr Lui’s decision (to quit politics) also go well
beyond transport,” Mr Han said. “More critically, it concerns the PAP’s ability
to attract people into its A team.”


Traditionally, the PAP has been using the scholar route to replenish their
ranks – government scholarship holders, then senior civil servants, and finally
recruited by the PAP and headed for higher office.

Mr Lui himself, an SAF scholar went through such a route and first entered
politics in 2006. He was following the footsteps of many of his seniors along
the same route – Goh Chok Tong, Lee Hsien Loong, Mah Bow Tan, Teo Chee Hean, Lim
Hng Kiang, George Yeo and among others.

“All served several terms and, together, they formed the scholar-minister
model of political renewal,” Mr Han noted.

“They didn’t join the PAP on their own. They were asked to leave their civil
service or military careers to join the ruling party.”


But Mr Han also noted that in the past, they were tutored and worked during a period when the politics was completely dominated by the PAP, the media was all mainstream, the Internet had not been invented, and the founding PM Lee Kuan Yew was around to provide the tutelage.

“By 2006, when Mr Lui won his electoral seat, all these factors that had
shaped the politics of his predecessors had already begun to change. He was a
product of an old era but entering a new one where the political battleground
would change dramatically,
” Mr Han observed.

“As Singapore transits into a more competitive political landscape, the
question is whether this model can produce the same results,” he asked.

“Will the greater demands and uncertain political career result in fewer
people of ability being interested in the job? Why subject yourself and your
family to such intense public scrutiny and criticism?”

Indeed, these days, with the advent of social media and the Internet,
politicians are being scrutinized by netizens 24/7. Any mistakes made are
quickly amplified and passed on through a few keystrokes.

And the worst is these communications stay on the Internet forever, for
future generations to see. For example, Mr Lui’s grandson will probably be able
to read about his grandfather quitting PAP 50 years down the road.

Mr Han himself seems very worried that the PAP’s scholar-minister model of
political renewal may be at risk.


“Many people worry that this is the most serious consequence of the new
normal, one which will ultimately affect the quality of political leadership in
Singapore. And even if some do enter politics, as Mr Lui did, will they be able
to cope?” Mr Han asked. He did not show any statistics about how many people are
worried about this.

According to Mr Han, Mr Lui apparently wasn’t able to cope with transport
issues, especially when tens of thousands of commuters will go online to condemn
over train or bus delays. Mr Han quoted the interview Zaobao had with Mr Lui to
support his case:


In transport, I guess in most ministries… it is all consuming – in time,
energy and focus. Because every (transport) delay, every (train) withdrawal
comes to me. So I know when (delays are) on the uptrend because I can monitor it
from my phone. So it won’t be buzzing after this.
It certainly sounds like the case, “If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen”. In a way, one can also argue that when the chef already has millions of dollars in his pocket, why the need to face the heat everyday? Might as well go relax at some tropical island to drink one’s pina colada and watch some hula girls dancing.

Mr Han concluded his article by saying, “Whoever it selects, no matter how
bright, will have to cope and succeed in this new (demanding) environment. For
the PAP, or any party with aspirations to run the country, this challenge is far
more serious than any transport problem.”

But then again, all other politicians of first world countries with free
press and media have been facing real public scrutiny for years. Did any of the
first world countries collapse because of the open and politically competitive
environments they have?


What do you think?
 

winnipegjets

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The scholar system never did work. We have a bunch of entitled people who think that they are god's gift to sinkapore but fail to deliver. Each of them costs the country $68 million from award of scholarship till they die, assuming at 80, in fees, salaries and pensions.
They are supposed to be the best, thus justifying their more than million dollar salaries. But where are the results? At best, they match the performance of the lower paid counterparts in other developed countries. Most of the time, they have failed miserably. That they are still around is because of the PAP acceptance of mediocrity from people they have chosen.
 

mojito

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The scholar system never did work. We have a bunch of entitled people who think that they are god's gift to sinkapore but fail to deliver. Each of them costs the country $68 million from award of scholarship till they die, assuming at 80, in fees, salaries and pensions.
They are supposed to be the best, thus justifying their more than million dollar salaries. But where are the results? At best, they match the performance of the lower paid counterparts in other developed countries. Most of the time, they have failed miserably. That they are still around is because of the PAP acceptance of mediocrity from people they have chosen.

A small price to pay for a corruption-free singapore. :smile:
 

JohnTan

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I am also worried. I am pinning my hopes on both my kids getting top PSC scholarships, followed by an eventual career path into politics via the PAP.
 

glockman

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The scholar-minister model only proves two things : the incumbent is academically inclined (hence the scholarship) and can take orders (hence the rising through the ranks). These attributes may be beneficial to their bosses and the organisation (in a Junta). But ultimately, they need to serve the electorate. Therein lies the problem.

They are ill-equipped to deal with challenges in the real world, especially in a high profile political career or as head of a large public corporation. And yet behave arrogantly and believe they are entitled to all the perks and $. And when the shit hits the fan, they are like bambi in the headlights. Voters need to wise up and reject this failed scholar-minister model.
 

JohnTan

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The scholar-minister model only proves two things : the incumbent is academically inclined (hence the scholarship) and can take orders (hence the rising through the ranks). These attributes may be beneficial to their bosses and the organisation (in a Junta). But ultimately, they need to serve the electorate. Therein lies the problem.

They are ill-equipped to deal with challenges in the real world, especially in a high profile political career or as head of a large public corporation. And yet behave arrogantly and believe they are entitled to all the perks and $. And when the shit hits the fan, they are like bambi in the headlights. Voters need to wise up and reject this failed scholar-minister model.

Voters aspire for their kids to be scholars. That's why parents serve as volunteers at the top primary schools so help their kids get in, spend money on tuition from primary school all the way through JC and even pressure their kids into jumping off buildings if they do poorly in their exams.

They, like me, want their kids to be like Kee Chiu, Chuan Jin, Lui Tuck Yew, George Yeo, Teo Chee Hean, AC Melvin Yong and Lt. Gen Ng Chee Meng.
 

Leongsam

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The scholar-minister model only proves two things : the incumbent is academically inclined (hence the scholarship) and can take orders (hence the rising through the ranks). These attributes may be beneficial to their bosses and the organisation (in a Junta). But ultimately, they need to serve the electorate. Therein lies the problem.

They are ill-equipped to deal with challenges in the real world, especially in a high profile political career or as head of a large public corporation. And yet behave arrogantly and believe they are entitled to all the perks and $. And when the shit hits the fan, they are like bambi in the headlights. Voters need to wise up and reject this failed scholar-minister model.

Would you prefer scholars to run the country or would you rather have a bunch of charlatans and shysters which is what countries like NZ have to put up with?

Singapore should thank their lucky stars they have politicians who are honest, intelligent and dedicated to making Singapore a better place.
 

glockman

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Voters aspire for their kids to be scholars. That's why parents serve as volunteers at the top primary schools so help their kids get in, spend money on tuition from primary school all the way through JC and even pressure their kids into jumping off buildings if they do poorly in their exams.

They, like me, want their kids to be like Kee Chiu, Chuan Jin, Lui Tuck Yew, George Yeo, Teo Chee Hean, AC Melvin Yong and Lt. Gen Ng Chee Meng.

I want my kids and grandkids to be scholars too. And then cut their teeth in the real world. Start companies, invent products and services. Not to be sucked into cronyism of a political party. If you ask me, I have more respect for those paper generals if they had stayed in their profession. Retire as a soldier and not get seduced by easy money and power. These are not honourable men, they can be bought.
 

glockman

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Would you prefer scholars to run the country or would you rather have a bunch of charlatans and shysters which is what countries like NZ have to put up with?

Singapore should thank their lucky stars they have politicians who are honest, intelligent and dedicated to making Singapore a better place.

You are making a mistake of equating scholars with being capable politicians. In the same vein, not all MBAs will succeed in business. In essence, good politicians can come from all walks of life and education levels. But a country must first be opened to accepting folks from diverse backgrounds. There has to be a level playing field too. A country is best run by a group of people who places country before party.
 

virus

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The author failed to get to the root of the issue. That scholars were unable to empathise with voters. Putting self before party. Party before nation. Foreigners before voters. The system is fundamental re flawed. Where noobs leads an enterprise sought cost as bottoming with incapable. Incompetent. Inexperienced and unqualified cheap foreign labor to displace singapore. Foreigners that wouldnt make it elsewhere sought refuge in bulk creating caste of nepotism for their kind. The result of today's fap model is incoherent disorganised dyfunctional goverance. On short a bad dose of goverance
 
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Leongsam

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You are making a mistake of equating scholars with being capable politicians. In the same vein, not all MBAs will succeed in business. In essence, good politicians can come from all walks of life and education levels. But a country must first be opened to accepting folks from diverse backgrounds. There has to be a level playing field too. A country is best run by a group of people who places country before party.

The PAP is at the forefront of accepting folks from diverse backgrounds. That is why they have added Pinoys, Burmese, Indian/Chinese nationals, Caucasians, Latinos and Blacks to the mix.

I was under the impression that Singapore wanted less of these diverse background characters.
 

Brightkid

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Imo, the scholar practice is a mistake right from the start.

It not only created a elitism 'select' few, it actually gave those academically-bright students a false sense of Demi-God level of themselves.

These scholars, on first day of their graduation, will be rotated, barely touching the surface of the roles their are carouselled around, as long as they continue to sleep and do not make any major mistake, thereafter involved in policy formulation which impact the entire country, all without even a day in the real corporate world.

Further, PAP porches away these tax-payer-funded scholars into their party, depriving them to serve the country that paid for and groomed them from greenhorns. Is PAP indulging in selfish means detrimental to the country?

Military and security personnels, especially such scholars, should never be allowed to enter politics within a period of time after leaving government or civil service. Imagine PAP is democratically voted out of being the government, what is the likely action of those paper Generals to hang on to their million-$ salaries?

Just my few cents, without GST, of frightening thoughts should the scholar policy continues.
 

xebay11

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Voters aspire for their kids to be scholars. That's why parents serve as volunteers at the top primary schools so help their kids get in, spend money on tuition from primary school all the way through JC and even pressure their kids into jumping off buildings if they do poorly in their exams.

They, like me, want their kids to be like Kee Chiu, Chuan Jin, Lui Tuck Yew, George Yeo, Teo Chee Hean, AC Melvin Yong and Lt. Gen Ng Chee Meng.

You forgot to add that you go the extra mile to suck c*ck and carry balls too, for your children to achieve the aspirations to be PSC scholars.
 

escher

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Imo, the scholar practice is a mistake right from the start.

It not only created a elitism 'select' few, it actually gave those academically-bright students a false sense of Demi-God level of themselves.

These scholars, on first day of their graduation, will be rotated, barely touching the surface of the roles their are carouselled around, as long as they continue to sleep and do not make any major mistake, thereafter involved in policy formulation which impact the entire country, all without even a day in the real corporate world.

Further, PAP porches away these tax-payer-funded scholars into their party, depriving them to serve the country that paid for and groomed them from greenhorns. Is PAP indulging in selfish means detrimental to the country?

Military and security personnels, especially such scholars, should never be allowed to enter politics within a period of time after leaving government or civil service. Imagine PAP is democratically voted out of being the government, what is the likely action of those paper Generals to hang on to their million-$ salaries?

Just my few cents, without GST, of frightening thoughts should the scholar policy continues.





Bestest way will be to dangle the stinking cheating Maggots in White under lamp post
The next bestest thing will be to vote everyone of those PAP bastards in white out out out


UNDER THE FUCKING PAP, SINKIES ARE 4TH CLASS CITIZENS IN THEIR OWN LAND STOLEN FROM THEM BY PAP
PAPs ARE THE 2ND CLASS CITIZENS WITH THE LEE FAMILY AS THE FIRST CLASS ARISTOCRAZIES

FTs ARE TAKEN IN AS THE 3RD CLASS CITIZENS KICKING SINKIES INTO 4TH CLASS AND SINKIES GOOD ONLY TO GO
HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE FUCKED AND TIEWED BY PAPs LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THEIR BANKS.


THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION

THE ONLY CHANCE WE HAVE WILL BE TO DANGLE PAPs AND THEIR CRONIES TO SEE THEM DANCE UNDER THE LAMP POSTS

HISTORICALLY, PIANO WIRES WILL BE WHAT TRAITORS OF COUNTRIES DESERVED
AND WE ALL CAN SEE PAPs AS TRAITOR TO SINGAPORE AND SINGAPOREANS AND PAPs ONLY SERVE THEIR OWN NEEDS AND LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THEIR BANKS

DANGLE ALL THOSE PAP BASTARDS AND CRONIES TO SEE THEM DANCE UNDER THE LAMP POSTS
AND TURN STINKAPORE BACK INTO SINGAPORE WHERE SINGAPOREANS ARE TREATED FIRST INSTEAD OF THE FUCKING FTs FROM FUCKED UP SCHOOLS WHERE THEY CHEAT AND CHEAT



HANG THE PAPs TO SEE THEM DANCE UNDER THE LAMP POSTS

The cronies do not get peanuts or they will not be cronies

http://sonofadud.com/2015/06/25/sin...new-how-much-singtels-ceo-was-really-getting/


Running Bitch Chua Sock Koong is not even an exceptional running bitch cum crony and she getting over 10 million a year.
What do the fucking PAPs pay their even more favourite cronies? Even morest than to bitch chua

How much do the fucking ministers pay themselves? More than they want to tell you.

ALL THAT FROM OUR FUCKING MONEY THAT THEY CREAM AND CUM THEMSELVES ON WHILE THEY GO LAUGHING ALL THE FUCKING WAY TO THEIR FUCKING BANKS
WHILE WE ALL STAND STUPIDLY IN FRONT OF A FUCKING FLAG TO MAKE OUR PLEDGES NOT KNOWING WE ALL HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE
FUCKED AND TIEWED AND KANNED BY THEM ALL AND THEIR CRONIES

DANGLE A PAP WITH PIANO WIRE FROM ORCHARD ROAD LAMP POST
INCLUDE THEIR RUNNING DOGS AND CRONIES
NECKLACE THEM SO THEY CAN SEE LIGHT

DO THAT BEFORE THEY KILL US ALL


Hang all those PAP bastards from piano wires, upside down or right way up.

SINGAPORE FOR SINGAPOREANS
SINGAPORE NOT FOR FOREIGN TRASH BROUGHT IN DELIBERATELY BY PAPs TO DISPLACE SINGAPOREANS
FTs BROUGHT IN BY PAPs TO REDUCE THE MONEY SINGAPOREANS CAN TAKE HOME FOR THEIR FAMILIES
FTs BROUGHT IN TO DEVALUE SINGAPOREANS
PAPs THEN USING FUCKING WORDS LIKE RACISTS AND XENOPHOBES TO FURTHER KICK SINGAPOREANS IN THE TEETH
REMEMBER IT IS THE FUCKING PAPs THAT DELIBERATELY BROUGHT IN THE FTs
SO THAT LESS MONEY FOR SINGAPOREANS AND LESS MONEY TO FIGHT THE FUCKING PAPs

TO HAVE LESS JOBS AVAILABLE FOR SINGAPOREANS AS FTs WILL BE GIVEN THAT JOB PREFERENCE OVER SINGAPOREANS

PAP TIEWING AND FUCKING STINKIES FOR SMEAR OF SHIT ON SOLE OF SHOE LKY AND PAPs
A LUCRATIVE JOB FOR WHICH PAPs ARE PAID UNTIL THOSE FUCKERS CAN LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THEIR BANKS AND BACK FROM THEIR BANKS


They continue to laugh all the way to their banks
And all the way back from their banks

HA HA HA HA
HEE HEE HEE HE HEEEE
HOO HO HOOO HO HO



Hang all those PAP bastards from piano wires, upside down or right way up.



Hang those PAP maggots cockroaches with piano wires from lamp posts to make them dance before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
BBQ those PAP maggots cockroaches before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Cut a few more arseholes into those PAP maggots cockroaches to let out their shit before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.
Make those PAP maggots cockroaches eat joss sticks and candle wax before it is too late and we have no more CPF to get back.



LKY will never allow good decent people into the PAP and good decent people will not want to get into the PAP. Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
None of those in PAP work for anyone but that smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY, to help him hold down Singaporeans to screw and fuck hundreds of BILLIONs from us all into smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY stinkapore sovereign funds.
Maggots and cockroaches are appointed as ministers in parliament
Kangaroos are frolicking in High Court instead of being allowed to wander and roam about in the Zoo
They are there in PAP because LKY know that they are a bunch of self serving greedy bastards and scrapings of scums of society. To call them maggots cockroaches will be to insult real maggots and real cockroaches.


GET RID OF THE POISON IN SINGAPORE
HANG ALL THOSE FUCKING PAPs AND THEIR COLLABORATORS
BBQ THE BASTARD PAPs

AND SINGAPORE CAN BE AS GOOD IF NOT BETTER THAN SWITZERLAND

OR REMAIN HEAD DOWN DOWN AND ARSEHOLES UP HIGH HIGH TO BE FUCKED TO BE TIEWED TO BE KANNED BY THE PAP MAGGOTS COCKROACHES

Kill them all PAPs
Let GOD sort out the good from the really bad ones
The good PAPs can then eat joss sticks and candle wax from time to time
The bad PAPs like smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY will be raped and tiewed and kanned by legions of ghouls and demons and not ever
get time off to eat joss sticks and candle wax
And lowest scums of society known for their vicious self interest driven greed are preaching to sinkies on morality and elitism.
Those in PAP are the most corrupt and moral degenerates and moral bankrupts and moral filths that are being presented to stinkaporeans as moral compasses.
Despite the leeching and fucking of singaporeans by the cheebye PAP and LKY, Singapore still managed to survive to date.
Despite their being hung as a fucking millstones around the necks of Singaporeans and the idiocy and corrupt manipulations of PAP and LKY, Singapore still not dead yet.
 
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