Singapore's best goalkeeper

dredd · Jul 21, 2015

GoldenDragon said:
He's been driving for many years. After his kelong conviction, hard to get employed.

Yes... it was very hard to see him working as a taxi driver. I was sitting in the cab and thinking that this was a man who had his time in the limelight. He was once a household name, now he's just another bloke. After the ride I gave him a tip and said thank you and got off.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

dredd said:
Yes... it was very hard to see him working as a taxi driver. I was sitting in the cab and thinking that this was a man who had his time in the limelight. He was once a household name, now he's just another bloke. After the ride I gave him a tip and said thank you and got off.

He was one of the first to play overseas in the early 80s. HK I recall.

dredd · Jul 21, 2015

Was there a goalie by the name of Brian Rozario...?

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

dredd said:
Was there a goalie by the name of Brian Rozario...?

Yes but not that outstanding.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

Rashid Hassan and Abdul Malek also played for S'pore.

rotiprata · Jul 21, 2015

dun quite remember david lee kelonging.... only know edmund wee; sundram

Narong Wongwan said:
David Lee was known as Goal-lee.....he makaned most money from kelongs.

My pick would be Eric Paine.
Knew a guy who liked Chew Peng so much he named his DAUGHTER after him.

Papsmearer · Jul 21, 2015

canonfairy said:
malaysia arumugam aka the octopus

shit just revealed limpeh over 60 yo

Arumugam is Spiderman, not Octopus. U must be 80 yo because u have dementia.

Papsmearer · Jul 21, 2015

yellowarse said:
Wilfred Skinner was the greatest Singaporean goalie, hands down. I'd put Edmund Wee after him.

I agree 100% and he was my friend too. I put Lim Chiew Peng after him.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

rotiprata said:
dun quite remember david lee kelonging.... only know edmund wee; sundram

David spent more than 24 hrs in CPIB when he was goalkeeper for Changi United. Sundram never got charged for kelong. Lucky guy.

Papsmearer · Jul 21, 2015

HTOLAS said:
Eric Paine related this anecdote to me.

He was flying to KL on a KL-Singapore shuttle one morning and had just taken his seat. One of the stewards approached him and asked, 'are you Mr Eric Paine the Singapore goalkeeper?'

'Er... yes,' he replied, surprised that people still recognized him. Before he could say anything else, the steward interrupted him.

'As a Malaysian and a football fan, I'd like to thank you for rushing to KL to pay your respects to Arumugam.'

Eric didn't quite understand what he'd heard and tried to clarify, but the steward had gone to attend to another passenger. He looked then down at the newspaper he'd taken as he boarded and saw the news that Arumugam had died the day before in a traffic accident.

I recall Eric Paine was sign on SAF career man. I think he retired as Major? I ran into him a few times in the army.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

The hard truth is that the best goalkeeper we ever had was Ah Kong. If not for him, S'pore would have been thrashed by our neighbors. And we wont be celebrating SG50.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

Papsmearer said:
I recall Eric Paine was sign on SAF career man. I think he retired as Major? I ran into him a few times in the army.

Captain only. During those days hard to become Major.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

Papsmearer said:
I recall Eric Paine was sign on SAF career man. I think he retired as Major? I ran into him a few times in the army.

Chiew Peng was Lta in their transport branch.

Papsmearer · Jul 21, 2015

HTOLAS said:
Eric Paine related this anecdote to me.

He was flying to KL on a KL-Singapore shuttle one morning and had just taken his seat. One of the stewards approached him and asked, 'are you Mr Eric Paine the Singapore goalkeeper?'

'Er... yes,' he replied, surprised that people still recognized him. Before he could say anything else, the steward interrupted him.

'As a Malaysian and a football fan, I'd like to thank you for rushing to KL to pay your respects to Arumugam.'

Eric didn't quite understand what he'd heard and tried to clarify, but the steward had gone to attend to another passenger. He looked then down at the newspaper he'd taken as he boarded and saw the news that Arumugam had died the day before in a traffic accident.

There is an interesting story to this as a side note. Maybe you know it, but I will tell it here. Arumugam was riding his motorbike and got killed by a car at night. At his funeral, all the soccer lumimaries of malaysia showed up, including Towkay Soh Chin Aun, and Mokhtar Dahari. People were shocked at the appearance of Mokhtar. He looked frail and weak, and not steady. It was there that they found out Dahari had muscular dystrophy. The sultan who was FAS president and a few others helped him with his medical bills and other support but there was no cure and he passed away only 3 years after Arumugam.

I always wonder if anything like this happened to the great generation of singapore footballers like Mat Noh, Arshad Khamis, Kim Song, etc. will anyone in FAS do anything for them?

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

Papsmearer said:
There is an interesting story to this as a side note. Maybe you know it, but I will tell it here. Arumugam was riding his motorbike and got killed by a car at night. At his funeral, all the soccer lumimaries of malaysia showed up, including Towkay Soh Chin Aun, and Mokhtar Dahari. People were shocked at the appearance of Mokhtar. He looked frail and weak, and not steady. It was there that they found out Dahari had muscular dystrophy. The sultan who was FAS president and a few others helped him with his medical bills and other support but there was no cure and he passed away only 3 years after Arumugam.

I always wonder if anything like this happened to the great generation of singapore footballers like Mat Noh, Arshad Khamis, Kim Song, etc. will anyone in FAS do anything for them?

When Fandi had $$$$ problems, he approached MBT for help. Latter promised to help. But when Fandi went back to MBT, latter MIA. Fandi seepay tulan, until today. Shortly thereafter, he packed up and headed down south. When it comes to going the extra mile, our friends up north have more sympathisers.

KuanTi01 · Jul 21, 2015

dredd said:
Lee Bee Seng was a fantastic goalie, despite his small size. Extremely agile.

I definitely second that. Lee Bee Seng is my all-time favourite goalkeeper; ever so entertaining and brave between the goalposts. He dives and he somersaults a lot. In fact, in one of the Malaysia Cup matches, he did an elaborate roll and somersault to pick up a routine stray ball and in the process, he got himself injured. Just imagine, he was stretchered out and had to be replaced. :biggrin:

Wonder how is he now!

KuanTi01 · Jul 21, 2015

dredd said:
Yes... it was very hard to see him working as a taxi driver. I was sitting in the cab and thinking that this was a man who had his time in the limelight. He was once a household name, now he's just another bloke. After the ride I gave him a tip and said thank you and got off.

I remembered he once played professionally in Hong Kong and earned lucrative salaries.

HTOLAS · Jul 21, 2015

Mokhtar's illness was quite shocking. And I was moved that FAM pitched in to help.

As for our football officials helping our ex-players out, the less said the better.

Papsmearer said:
There is an interesting story to this as a side note. Maybe you know it, but I will tell it here. Arumugam was riding his motorbike and got killed by a car at night. At his funeral, all the soccer lumimaries of malaysia showed up, including Towkay Soh Chin Aun, and Mokhtar Dahari. People were shocked at the appearance of Mokhtar. He looked frail and weak, and not steady. It was there that they found out Dahari had muscular dystrophy. The sultan who was FAS president and a few others helped him with his medical bills and other support but there was no cure and he passed away only 3 years after Arumugam.

I always wonder if anything like this happened to the great generation of singapore footballers like Mat Noh, Arshad Khamis, Kim Song, etc. will anyone in FAS do anything for them?

yellowarse · Jul 21, 2015

Papsmearer said:
There is an interesting story to this as a side note. Maybe you know it, but I will tell it here. Arumugam was riding his motorbike and got killed by a car at night. At his funeral, all the soccer lumimaries of malaysia showed up, including Towkay Soh Chin Aun, and Mokhtar Dahari. People were shocked at the appearance of Mokhtar. He looked frail and weak, and not steady. It was there that they found out Dahari had muscular dystrophy. The sultan who was FAS president and a few others helped him with his medical bills and other support but there was no cure and he passed away only 3 years after Arumugam.

I always wonder if anything like this happened to the great generation of singapore footballers like Mat Noh, Arshad Khamis, Kim Song, etc. will anyone in FAS do anything for them?

Yes, Mohktar died of muscular dystrophy and was helped financially by the FAM. He was truly a legend, and at his peak was unanimously regarded as the best striker in Asia. A few German clubs were interested but he never wanted to play outside M'sia.

In Singapore, you die your own biz. Never heard of FAS helping any old time greats. Just look at how Tan Howe Liang, our first Olympian medallist, was treated: SSC just paid him a lowly wage as a gym supervisor at the National Stadium. I remember seeing him while training for my NS enlistment and wondering who this ah chek was. Looked more like the janitor than a Rome '60 silver medallist.

GoldenDragon · Jul 21, 2015

KuanTi01 said:
I remembered he once played professionally in Hong Kong and earned lucrative salaries.

He was with South China Football Club and was highest paid non-ang mo player in HK in the early 80s.

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