GAY Loong admits there is no military threats to S'pore, wasted $13 billion a year

Papsmearer · Jul 6, 2015

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laksaboy said:
It's stated clearly at the SAFTI Army Museum:

Deterrence first, then if deterrence fails, aggression ('swift and decisive victory') offshore.

NS is a big, lucrative business, and buying toys from the military-industrial complex keeps certain countries and stakeholders happy.

U mean keep the bribes flowing into the PAP?

Papsmearer · Jul 6, 2015

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Agoraphobic said:
Just wish to add my comments to this thread:

There is no military threat to Singapore. Any country who declares war or attacks Peesai will be seen as a bully. Singapore has no natural resource like oil, or water. Singapore military just has to be maintained to be in tandem with the country's wealth. The army is a parade army, the airforce is to wow the kids (F-16s, F-15s enough, F-35 is totally senseless), navy, yes, to protect the sea lanes againsts pirates, and calamity rescue/humanitarian missions. A modern military makes a good career for military personnel. Military personnel should think like soldiers, always on the guard, and "siam" NDP duties. Life is good.

Cheers!

If there is no military threat to singapore, why spend $13 billion a year? Why not spend $1 billion and still maintain a proficient deterrent? Where does it say that singapore military has to be maintained in tandem with the country's wealth? we don't even know what the country's wealth is because we are told it will take 50 man years to find that out. How then do you know what is in tandem in regards to military spending?

Papsmearer · Jul 6, 2015

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bigboss said:
History has shown infiltration and sabotage are effective in creating internal chaos of any country.

In Vietnam war, the North infiltrated the South to create fear and chaos; eventually, the American could not tahan the loss of American lives and ran road.

Now, the ISIS uses the same strategy to filtrate Italy and other European countries which took in immigrants from the Middle East and the Mediterranean. The ISIS simply walked as immigrants and will wait for the day to whack the host countries.

Maybe the paps do not believe no other countries will infiltrate and sabotage sinkieland from within. If so, they are idiots.

It appears to me that according to you, the PAP are idiots then. After all they let in 2 million people into this country with no restrictions and monitoring of their movements. These 2 million include citizens of countries that are still officially communists, the same communists who were at one time our sworn enemies. Also included in this is 2 million number are citizens from the largest muslim country on earth and a known country that have islamic extremist cells like JI. The way the PAP screens the education qualifications of fake Talents working in the country do not give me great confidence in their ability to weed out trouble makers from this group.

steffychun · Jul 6, 2015

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Singapore is upgrading F-16 with AESA radar. Can show off during NDP or not?

Agoraphobic · Jul 6, 2015

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He can say what he wishes - he has an opinion and a home crowd to please, but has he intruded on Singapore? In case you have not noticed, Malaysia's current PM, and Singapore's PM are on very good terms with each other, and take turns to host each other very often.

Cheers!

bigboss said:
Tell this to Mahatir...he will probably give you 101 reasons why sinapor is like a thorn in his butt. This guy been nit picking on sinapor endlessly even when out of the political office.

Agoraphobic · Jul 6, 2015

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If you are referring to the islands in the South China Sea, there are a couple of claimants, China happens to be the first to put that claim into action. What is stopping the others? The Viets and Pinoys can go ahead and laugh, they won't be laughing once they realize they've lost it for being slow to act.

Cheers!

bigboss said:
Tell the Viets and the Pinoys that China is not a threat and they will probably die laughing.

steffychun · Jul 6, 2015

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http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/re.../news/2015/jul/03jul15_news.html#.VZpLS5zzY3M

toy boat waste of money?

Agoraphobic · Jul 6, 2015

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Why would anybody want to exert pressure and cripple Peesai and its economy? Give me an acceptable reason for that?

Cheers!

bigboss said:
Taking over sinapor does not mean physical occupation of the island...just exerting pressure is good enough to cripple its economy and the livelihood of the sinaporans.

Agoraphobic · Jul 6, 2015

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Firstly, it is not wise to NOT have a military. So, if one were to have an armed force, have the best that one can afford. As an example, RSAF started off with Hunter Jets and BAC Strikemasters during the late sixties. There have been no threats or danger, but can you imagine expecting newly trained pilots to fly these "ancient" aircraft? That is a downer! Even the F-5s and Skyhawks look so outdated! How are these pilots going to impress the girls??? Same explanation for the naval vessels, Singapore sailors would look and feel like crap having to pilot the old "Fast" Patrol Boats. In this respect, I dare say the F-35 is unnecessary as there is no need to penetrate enemy airspace and a good dogfighter is all Sg needs. But Peesai has the money, and someone I spoke to told me for the decision maker, being able to buy the more expensive model is better (for kickbacks?).

Cheers!

Papsmearer said:
If there is no military threat to singapore, why spend $13 billion a year? Why not spend $1 billion and still maintain a proficient deterrent? Where does it say that singapore military has to be maintained in tandem with the country's wealth? we don't even know what the country's wealth is because we are told it will take 50 man years to find that out. How then do you know what is in tandem in regards to military spending?

frenchbriefs · Jul 6, 2015

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13 billion a year for the last 10 years,130 billion.seriously just give the money to us $40k each,people invade us nobody is going to defend this shittyhole anyway.not worth the slightest.die for a country that treats u like shit?

steffychun · Jul 8, 2015

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http://thediplomat.com/2015/07/singapores-biggest-military-challenge/

Ng Eng Hen: the threat is low population growth. Fuck more people!

Papsmearer · Jul 8, 2015

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frenchbriefs said:
13 billion a year for the last 10 years,130 billion.seriously just give the money to us $40k each,people invade us nobody is going to defend this shittyhole anyway.not worth the slightest.die for a country that treats u like shit?

If the PAP spends $1 billion a year to bribe Indonesian and Malaysian political leadership as well as religious leadership, we would be a lot safer and for a lot less.

steffychun · Jul 9, 2015

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http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/press_room/official_releases/nr/2015/jul/08jul15_nr.html

no threats got peacekeeper vehicle.

eatshitndie · Jul 9, 2015

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swee boh? offensive?

eatshitndie · Jul 9, 2015

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the other leo.......

steffychun · Jul 9, 2015

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eatshitndie said:
swee boh? offensive?

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a Well built IED will take it out

bigboss · Jul 9, 2015

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enterprise2 said:
Yes we all know the strategy of the Ah Tiong. They just redraw the map like how our MIW redraw the electoral boundaries. They then inch forward, reclaim land and claim air and sea spaces around them. No need to fight, just slowly squeeze your opponents to death!

PRC commies do not need to re-draw the maps; they need to pull out old ancient maps from their drawers to show their national sea lanes and land marks in the days of the old Chinese Empire, and hey presto, these are our boundaries before taken over or erased or re-drawn by the Japs, the Brits, etc. !!!

Who dares to tell the Tiongs their old maps are just toilet papers now?

bigboss · Jul 9, 2015

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steffychun said:
http://thediplomat.com/2015/07/singapores-biggest-military-challenge/

Ng Eng Hen: the threat is low population growth. Fuck more people!

Did he say so? It makes sense. Low pop growth means pappies have to get more foreigners to become shitizens, who may not exactly have the love for and affinity with the island. To these foreigners, the island is just a place to escape the harsh life in their homeland, no loyalty, patriotism for sinapor.

enterprise2 · Jul 9, 2015

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bigboss said:
PRC commies do not need to re-draw the maps; they need to pull out old ancient maps from their drawers to show their national sea lanes and land marks in the days of the old Chinese Empire, and hey presto, these are our boundaries before taken over or erased or re-drawn by the Japs, the Brits, etc. !!!

Who dares to tell the Tiongs their old maps are just toilet papers now?

Like that the Greeks should just pull out the map of the Old Greek Empire under Alexander the Great instead of the tiny bankrupt peesai it is today!

bigboss · Jul 9, 2015

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frenchbriefs said:
....people invade us nobody is going to defend this shittyhole anyway.not worth the slightest.die for a country that treats u like shit?

Pappies treated sinkies like shit, would the next Govt if run by oppo parties treat sinkies better? Hard to tell but there is a chance the next Govt might not want to repeat mistakes made by pappies.

Defending the island is the responsibility of all local sinkies, don't count on imported shitizens and foreigners in the volunteer corp to defend the island. They would probably flee when crisis erupted. If local sinkies refuse to defend their own country, who will?

USA? UK? If they could defend Ukraine, they would have done so long ago. Be realistic. Sinkies cannot count on outside help to defend itself against external aggression. Whether you like it or not, the fate of all local sinkies is sealed with the island.

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