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Sinkies got conned in ponzi scam again!!!

dancingshoes

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A GROUP of 15 investors chased a businessman across Singapore yesterday in a bid to recover hundreds of thousands of dollars they had allegedly entrusted to him to invest in seaweed farms.

Mr Simon Ng, 54, had been due to meet the group at a coffee shop in Geylang Lorong 41 at noon, but when he sent another person to pass on his lawyer's details to them, they went to his Toa Payoh flat - before showing up at his lawyer's Changi office.

Mr Ng, a Singaporean, allegedly collected more than $1.37 million from around 20 people since last year.

He had promised them high returns and payouts after three months, at seminars in Malaysia, Thailand and Cambodia, after flying them there on all-expenses-paid trips.

But when these windfalls did not materialise, many became suspicious.

Last week, the investors hired JMS Rogers, a debt-collection agency, and when Mr Ng did not show up in Geylang, they went to his Toa Payoh flat at about 2pm.

A woman answered the door and told them that Mr Ng was not home, then called the police.

It was only when officers arrived that he came to the door and complained to them that he was being harassed by debt collectors. He had lodged a similar report last month.

When he tried to leave for his lawyer's office in Changi at about 5pm, investors confronted him in the car park near his flat, demanding to know what happened to their money and the returns he had promised.

He told them that the multi-level marketing scheme had fallen through, adding in Mandarin: "I'm a victim too. I lost $100,000 investing in the scheme."

Mr Ng - who has seven police reports made against him - repeated this line when investors, debt collectors and reporters approached him outside his lawyer's office two hours later. As of 8pm, the group was still there, with some investors saying they had given him their life savings.

"We want an explanation," said former security officer C. G. Lim, 40, claiming that he gave Mr Ng more than $55,000.

He even quit his job last year after Mr Ng convinced him that he could make more money through the scheme. "I was trying to provide a better life for my wife and two children," said Mr Lim. "I even got my mother to invest.

"I started getting suspicious when my investment matured but I didn't receive any money."

Housewife Bebe Sim, 55, said she has invested more than $600,000 since January last year, after being promised returns up to three times of what she put in. She asked Mr Ng: "Where is my hard-earned money?"

Madam Normah Ahmed, 58, had invested her "life savings" of $30,000 in the hope that she could fund her medical expenses.

The administrative officer, who had undergone a liver transplant, spends between $1,000 and $5,000 a month on medication.

"I did not want to bother my children with the financial burden, so I invested my hard-earned money, hoping I could be self-sufficient," she said.

According to a report by the Phnom Penh Post, Mr Ng Chin Chin, the boss of Malaysia-based firm Solarwarm, which owns the seaweed farms, was arrested in Cambodia on April 27.

- See more at: http://business.asiaone.com/news/investors-chase-down-businessman#sthash.p8JWXrfF.xKLkaMau.dpuf
 

lifeafter41

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Housewife Bebe Sim, 55, said she has invested more than $600,000 since January last year, after being promised returns up to three times of what she put in. She asked Mr Ng: "Where is my hard-earned money?"


I am impressed with BeBe Sim, for a housewife, at age 55 has more than 600k to invest.
Most people do not even have 1/10 of that amount.

Good for Bebe
 

LITTLEREDDOT

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Housewife Bebe Sim, 55, said she has invested more than $600,000 since January last year, after being promised returns up to three times of what she put in. She asked Mr Ng: "Where is my hard-earned money?"


I am impressed with BeBe Sim, for a housewife, at age 55 has more than 600k to invest.
Most people do not even have 1/10 of that amount.

Good for Bebe

"We want an explanation," said former security officer C. G. Lim, 40, claiming that he gave Mr Ng more than $55,000.

Security officer also has $55,000 spare cash to invest.
 

halsey02

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Housewife Bebe Sim, 55, said she has invested more than $600,000 since January last year, after being promised returns up to three times of what she put in. She asked Mr Ng: "Where is my hard-earned money?"


I am impressed with BeBe Sim, for a housewife, at age 55 has more than 600k to invest.
Most people do not even have 1/10 of that amount.

Good for Bebe

Babe, must be part of the 60%...who never protest outside CPF Building at Robinson Road and ask this question " Where is my hard-earned money"....they are so use to give money for LONG TERM GAIN...that they will believe thousand's of " Mr. Ng"...many times over...hopefully not for another 50 years..:p
 

xingguy

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Babe, must be part of the 60%...who never protest outside CPF Building at Robinson Road and ask this question " Where is my hard-earned money"....they are so use to give money for LONG TERM GAIN...that they will believe thousand's of " Mr. Ng"...many times over...hopefully not for another 50 years..:p

All ponzi scam pale in comparison to CPF, a ponzi scheme on a national level.

Source: likedatosocanmeh blog

20140515 How our CPF Ponzi scheme will end in tears for CPF members
May 15, 2014

The CPF was originally introduced by the British colonial authority in 1955 as a compulsory savings scheme to allow workers to save for retirement. Since the PAP took over the CPF after independence, there have been thousands of tweaks in order to satisfy PAP’s insatiable greed. The CPF system has been complicated to the extent that it now resembles more of a Ponzi scheme.

How a Ponzi scheme works

Wikipedia defines a Ponzi scheme as “a fraudulent investment operation where the …organisation (CPF board) pays returns to its investors (CPF members) from new capital (CPF new members’ funds) paid to the operators (GIC) by new investors (new CPF members).

Similar to a Ponzi scheme, CPF investments are shrouded in secrecy; the government has also repeatedly refused to disclose where CPF funds are invested and their market values.

GIC’s opacity creates suspicions of huge CPF losses

CPF funds are invested in GIC. As a government investment arm, GIC appears to be punting the share market and picking market bottoms during financial crises. One of the more well known bigger losses is its investment in UBS during the subprime crisis. GIC has been sitting on huge paper losses in the UBS investment. What GIC does is it selects from a pool of fund managers (tikam tikam) and provides them with OUR money for ‘investment’. Its board of directors comprises politicians and civil servants, hardly anyone with experience in fund management.

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GIC has been criticised by none other than MM Lee Kuan Yew who said that it had “bought too early into global banks such as Citigroup and UBS”.

How GIC invests with our CPF monies

What GIC essentially does is to invest come rain or shine ie market up or down doesn’t matter because it has a steady stream of funds coming in. For investments which are ‘underwater’, it will classify them as “long term investments”. Paper losses are not booked and nobody will know.

Mandating perpetually higher CPF MS creates even more suspicions

CPF members have become increasingly suspicious of the hidden government agenda in raising the Minimum Sum. The MS for the Ordinary and Medisave Account stands at $155,000 and $43,500 respectively. This is an amount where only 1 in 8 Singaporeans have.

For 2014, the combined MS for the OA and MA is $198,500. In 20 years time, the MS from today’s $198,500 will be $434,937 at a 4% inflation rate, $526,679 at 5% and $636,616 at 6%. Future value calculator

Since an increasing number of CPF members will not be able to meet the MS requirement, the government appears to have a hidden agenda.

Not just masking GIC losses but to prevent withdrawal tsunami by baby boomers and PRs leaving

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One reason to increase the MS drastically may be to mask GIC losses. Another would be to prevent the largest outflow in CPF history.

From the chart above, 34% or $78.2 billion of CPF funds belong to members aged between 45 and 55. Due to the high cost of living, an average of 10,000 PRs have given up their permanent residency since 2000, bringing their CPF monies home of course.

The PAP has to act to stem the mother of all CPF outflows or it will be catastrophic for GIC. GIC urgently needs a steady stream of capital in order to make a few killings in the stock market to make up for other investment losses. New investments will also provide a breather as total dividends will increase to supplement our budget surplus.

Younger Singaporeans must be wary, older ones played out by PAP and CPF policy

Conservatively using an inflation rate of only 4%, CPF members will be required to have a MS of $526,679 in 20 years time. After meeting our housing needs, only wealthy Singaporeans will be able to meet the MS requirement.

This confirms:

- Singapore to be the most expensive place to retire in the world.
- The PAP has abdicated its basic responsibility of taking care of our healthcare needs with its ever increasing Medisave Minimum Sum.
- The PAP is incompetent – instead of helping Singaporeans to retire comfortably, it is basically telling us to continue helping ourselves by working longer and accepting lower wages.​

CPF members must reject GIC’s crap

The MOF states that “GIC is a professional fund management organisation” and a “fairly conservative investor”. GIC invests CPF monies in stocks, private equity, real estate, bonds, etc in order to generate returns.

Although the MAS and Temasek publish the size of their managed funds, GIC does not. To defend GIC’s opacity, the MOF says the publication will “make it easier for markets to mount speculative attacks on the Singapore dollar during periods of vulnerability”. This is crap.

Question:
Since when was GIC tasked with the defence of the Singapore dollar?
No other country manages public funds in such an opaque manner. What is GIC hiding from CPF members?

MPs’ collective silence on CPF a troubling sign

Other issues like housing, education, public transportation, etc. may affect different segments of the population but CPF affects EVERYONE. It is expected of PAP MPs not to act in the interests of citizens in Parliament but why are opposition MPs also silent? Are CPF losses so huge that could foreign investors’ confidence will be affected by such a disclosure?

CPF not Ponzi scheme because previously all members were paid

When it comes to investing, history lovers should take note that “past performance is no guarantee of future results”. Ponzi schemes usually start off well and the problem is at the tail end where redemptions occur.

The reason why CPF was able to pay all its members in full upon reaching 55 was the increasing support of new members. Presently, the rate of increase in the number of CPF members and also the CPF amounts have declined. Changes in immigration policy will also have an effect.

The PAP is trying to prevent CPF withdrawals leading to a net reduction in GIC assets ie sell its investments in the open market to pay CPF members. From a paper loss, GIC’s losses will then be realised and reported. PAP must prevent such disclosures at all costs.

Ponzi schemes ultimately collapse because of redemption (withdrawal)

Bernard Madoff Ponzi scheme, the biggest financial fraud in US history, unraveled because of a $7 billion redemption. Without the redemption, Madoff would not have been caught. Redemptions are equivalent to withdrawals in CPF.

CPF faces a similar situation where the mother of all withdrawals (redemption) is at its doorstep. What makes it so different from the Madoff case is that the government is able to change the rules of the game at its whim by mandating more funds for GIC. The only way for for GIC to get caught with its pants down is to have all its books opened. With the PAP’s overwhelming presence in parliament, this is not likely to happen any time soon.

Summary

Our CPF system has morphed into a sort of Ponzi scheme. CPF members are most concerned by the total lack of transparency.
The government creates even more suspicions by mandating a perpetually higher CPF Minimum Sum. Again, the issue of transparency arises because there was no parliamentary debate. The issue of transparency features prominently in a Ponzi scheme.
The Ponzi CPF scheme will come to light with the mother of all withdrawals ie $78 billion is held by those aged between 45 and 55 in 2012. The PAP has attempted to prevent this at all costs.
Young ordinary citizens must know that at the rate of increase, the MS will be more than $500,000 in 20 years time. They will not be able to meet this ridiculous requirement.
When ALL MPs have ignored the CPF elephant in the room, their collective silence is a troubling sign. Is GIC too big to fail?
Increasing the population to bring in new CPF members to support the scheme has a limit.

In its current form, the CPF system is nothing but a Ponzi scheme designed to benefit the PAP and is severely detrimental to ordinary citizens’ interests. It can drag on for years but will ultimately collapse and end in tears for CPF members.

P S

“CPF members will be required to have a MS of $526,679..” – correct figure should be “$434,937″. “$526,679″ is for 5% inflation rate.
 

Narong Wongwan

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Housewife Bebe Sim, 55, said she has invested more than $600,000 since January last year, after being promised returns up to three times of what she put in. She asked Mr Ng: "Where is my hard-earned money?"


I am impressed with BeBe Sim, for a housewife, at age 55 has more than 600k to invest.
Most people do not even have 1/10 of that amount.

Good for Bebe

That's not her investment funds but her life savings aka 棺材本.
Sinkies are really gullible fucktards.....going all in without a thought
 

halsey02

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As always,when greed for money overwrite the brain, that's the price to pay...

Couple that with a stupidity that voted for one party for the last 50 years...& SG50 we are paying the price for their sins...more tragedy to come!
 

dancingshoes

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this flat in Toa Payoh which look like a 4 room or 5 room is worth at least 500k. so if he really run road, i think he still make half a mil.


come to think of it, i think unlikely he run road, he will be back. half a mil isn't much.

As yandao as the debt collector?

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xingguy

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There is video which I think is related to this case.

Click on the link below to view the video.

https://www.facebook.com/Temasek0Review/videos/842891519097498/?permPage=1

Source: Temasek Review

Commotion at Toa Payoh

About 7 police cars were seen gathering outside the multi-story carpark at Toa Payoh Lorong 2 with more than 40 people present

Apparently "legalized ah long" debt collection company was nt action and was shouting at a man and asking him to pay up.


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