Of Sabah KK Quake, TKPS and its after shocks...

theblackhole · Jun 7, 2015

Re: The star online: 10 students of Tanjong katong primary sch killed

the photos of the dead were horrific.
they were immediately taken off ..
gory to say the least...

a damned great tragedy for Singapore.

Pek Kim Lui · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Primary School Children Climbing Mount Kinabalu ???

the whole idea is absurd!!!
bukit timah or bukit panjang enuf leow!!................not enuf, go climb Westin lah

theblackhole · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Primary School Children Climbing Mount Kinabalu ???

I think going to climb the KK is just a bit too much for our frail kids.

Well, hope we learn from this.

We should just stick to Ubin ,Tekong and the Southern Islands. And perhaps to our nearest neighbor West Malaysia lah.

My condolences to the families who have lost their children. What a tragic loss indeed. Damned sad.

virus · Jun 7, 2015

Re: The star online: 10 students of Tanjong katong primary sch killed

theblackhole said:
the photos of the dead were horrific.
they were immediately taken off ..
glory to say the least...

a damned great tragedy for Singapore.

if glory, will ministar grace the closing ceremony and distribute goodie bags also.

Reddog · Jun 7, 2015

Why MOE ?

What are your excuses in sending 12 year olds (who should be preparing for their PSLE) to the wilderness and mountains ? You folks at the MOE are irresponsible.

DollarsNoSense · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Its about achievements and KPI - "Wa your school very impressive ah, your students can climb mountains!" RIP to the dead but we seriously need to review MOE and its policies. Natural disaster to be blamed? Yes but not when you could avoid an expedition that is already DANGEROUS in nature. Is it a must?

Reddog · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

DollarsNoSense said:
Its about achievements and KPI - "Wa your school very impressive ah, your students can climb mountains!" RIP to the dead but we seriously need to review MOE and its policies. Natural disaster to be blamed? Yes but not when you could avoid an expedition that is already DANGEROUS in nature. Is it a must?

Shameslessly importing foreigners to raise medal tally...
Exposing our children to danger (and now death) for the sake of "achievement and KPI"?

As Amos said: "horrible".

VTO VTO VTO

shiokalingam · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Why did MOE allow children to climb Mt Kinabalu?

Dear TRE,

I wrote the following comment on the MOE facebook but I am quite certain that it will not be posted hence I am writing to TRE hoping that your organization will start a new thread on the topic of Sabah Quake.

Here is the message I wrote on MOE facebook:

My heart goes out to the unnamed 12-year-old girl from Tanjong Katong Primary School who died in the Sabah quake during the school’s trip there.

I am saddened and at the same time furious that the school organized such a dangerous trip and MOE is allowing this kind of expedition.

How can little children at this age be allowed to climb such a peak? Will the school management and MOE please explain?

The public deserves the right to know what is going on and assurance that this sort of things will not happen again.

Sincerely yours,
Andrew Teo

I look forward to reading this new thread on the above topic at TRE soon.

Thank you,

Andrew Teo

* Submitted by reader

Editor’s note: Will also be writing to MOE to ask for clarifications on the matter.

http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/06/07/why-did-moe-allow-children-to-climb-mt-kanabalu/

JohnTan · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

DollarsNoSense said:
Its about achievements and KPI - "Wa your school very impressive ah, your students can climb mountains!" RIP to the dead but we seriously need to review MOE and its policies. Natural disaster to be blamed? Yes but not when you could avoid an expedition that is already DANGEROUS in nature. Is it a must?

You answered your own question in your first statement. If never meet KPI, how to get a good work performance review? And for the following year, you need to expand on your previous year's KPI. Start by climbing Mount Faber, then progress to Bukit Timah Hill, then on to Kota Kinabalu, and after that, gradually work your way up to Mount Everest. That's how KPIs work.

Dark Knight · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

MOE together with Mediacorpse has also team up to milk $$$ from the students.
Students have been tempted and even asked to buy Mediacorpse drama comic books and DVD "in the name of historical lesson" to sustain their showbiz business.
How many adults will be keen to read all those junk comics and watch those stupid DvDs?

johnny333 · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

A few years ago I remember reading about some community group of clowns who organised a run for those who survived a heart attack :eek:

Some poor "lesser mortal" died because he participated in this event & pushed himself too far.

Same thoughts about this ill fated trip. If you are going to put people in risky situations, bad things may happen. How do you expect minors who are only 12 year olds to understand the risks :confused:

I doubt that the parents understood the risks when they signed those consent forms. They trusted the schools to look after their children.

I guess next time they will think twice before being so trustful:(

Equalisation · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

DollarsNoSense said:
Its about achievements and KPI - "Wa your school very impressive ah, your students can climb mountains!" RIP to the dead but we seriously need to review MOE and its policies. Natural disaster to be blamed? Yes but not when you could avoid an expedition that is already DANGEROUS in nature. Is it a must?

In my opinion, it is not suitable for 11 or 12 years old who lacks maturity compared to those in the secondary schools. The trail they took is quite dangerous for those their age.:o

laksaboy · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Reddog said:
What are your excuses in sending 12 year olds (who should be preparing for their PSLE) to the wilderness and mountains ? You folks at the MOE are irresponsible.

You have to ask what were the parents thinking when they signed the consent forms allowing their children to go climb a mountain. :wink:

During my school days, the most we did were an excursion trip to Johor, and camping at Riau Islands. Those were the most adventurous options overseas. I guess times have changed. :wink:

You know, someone could set up a 'confidence-building' leadership enrichment course for the kids and send them to the North Pole to wrestle polar bears. And I think some Sinkie parents would still allow their kids to go there. :biggrin:

laksaboy · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Equalisation said:
In my opinion, it is not suitable for 11 or 12 years old who lacks maturity compared to those in the secondary schools. The trail they took is quite dangerous for those their age.:o

They lack the physical strength for climbing mountains. That's the age when girls start their monthly bleeding and boys start sprouting their cock hairs. Physically, they're still work in progress. :wink:

Equalisation · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

laksaboy said:
They lack the physical strength for climbing mountains. That's the age when girls start their monthly bleeding and boys start sprouting their cock hairs. Physically, they're still work in progress.

The point I want to make is that a primary school kid if compared to a secondary kid, cannot have the maturity to understand a situation fast enough and also the ability to respond thereof. In most sudden critical situations, they will just freeze.:o

JohnTan · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Equalisation said:
In my opinion, it is not suitable for 11 or 12 years old who lacks maturity compared to those in the secondary schools. The trail they took is quite dangerous for those their age.:o

Meeting KPI is more important. The school has been organizing this expedition for years and scored very well in their KPIs. This year is just very suay for them.

Equalisation · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Another significant point I want to make regarding the lack of maturity as they are 11 or 12 years old , is the fact that for the survivors of the trip, they will be scarred emotionally for life reliving the events and also the guilty syndrome of why they are alive. For secondary school students, I am sure they can cope much better. This is indeed tragic.:o

laksaboy · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

Equalisation said:
The point I want to make is that a primary school kid if compared to a secondary kid, cannot have the maturity to understand a situation fast enough and also the ability to respond thereof. In most sudden critical situations, they will just freeze.:o

Don't worry, the teachers are there to help. I'm sure they can cope. :wink:

eatshitndie · Jun 7, 2015

Re: Why MOE ?

since sinkies are so kiasi and over-protective of their kids, they may as well keep them in walled gardens surrounded by cushion, ensure they cycle with not 4 but 6 wheels on grassy patches, mummified them with life-saving floatation wear when playing in a tub, and bubble-wrap them when being cloistered in the children's playroom.

rambo22 · Jun 7, 2015

All Sg KK dead victims identified

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/singaporean-primary-school-kids-among-sabah-quake-victims-023500528.html

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