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Concerns of letting in more accountants from India to SG

makapaaa

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http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/05/08/concerns-of-letting-in-more-accountants-from-india-to-sg/
[h=2]Concerns of letting in more accountants from India to SG[/h]

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May 8th, 2015 |
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Author: Editorial



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According
to an Indian mainstream news report last month (‘India,
Singapore working on mutual recognition agreements
‘), Indian chartered
accountants and nurses will soon get easy access to work in Singapore, as the
two countries are finalising mutual recognition agreements.

Mutual recognition agreements (MRAs) help to pave the way for recognition of
professional body of one country by the other.

“We already have Mutual Recognition Agreements (MRAs) going on for Singapore.
In nursing we have finished MRAs. The other MRAs on chartered accountancies are
under negotiations,” Commerce Secretary of India, Rajeev Kher, told the Indian
media.

With these agreements, chartered accountants and nurses of Singapore too
would find it easy to work in India, the Commerce Secretary said.

However, it’s not known how many Singaporean accountants would seriously
consider to seek jobs in India given that the average pay of accountants in
India is 11 times less than what accountants can get in Singapore (‘More Indian accountants and nurses to work in SG‘).

Heavy corruptions in India

With regard to the MRA recognizing chartered accountants in India and thereby
enabling them to work in Singapore, there are also concerns among Singaporean
netizens of increase in corruptions in Singapore, given that accountants deal
closely with books of companies, including auditing work.


Some TRE readers commented:


OMG:
May 6, 2015 at 5:53 pm (Quote)

As for accountants, they are the best in corruption practices……just look at
how corrupted India is…


Chris K:
May 6, 2015 at 4:41 pm (Quote)

Because of sub-standard degree and qualifications, can’t get the numbers
correct. Because of fake degrees and qualifications, cheating is the path of
resistance so fudge the company accounts. Sell Singapore company stocks – in
time, you cannot trust their financials.


VTO VTO:
May 6, 2015 at 5:34 pm (Quote)

We have Mr Peanuts to thank for. He had this agreement with India having more
Indian nationals working here didn’t he? He couldn’t back out from this blunder
and had recently been pressured by India to satisfy the agreement hence
inevitably we’ll have an exodus of them landing on our shores soon.Besides
fudging accounts by accountants and accidental deaths by nurses, those alive
will have to face the reality of being replaced and thus unemployed. Be prepared
to take up taxi or security guard licence and earn some money to survive till we
land ourselves another job.

In fact, just early this year, India’s anti-corruption agency, CBI, unearthed
a major bribery scandal in the income tax department’s investigation wing of
India (‘CBI
unearths bribery scandal in I-T department, arrests senior official, chartered
accountants‘).


CBI arrested a tax commissioner of the department, two chartered
accountants
and a businessman while another IRS officer and
several middlemen were being questioned. CBI said that it was investigating a
larger conspiracy where income tax officials, chartered
accountants
and businessmen joined hands to settle income tax
investigations against companies and individuals for payment of huge amounts in
bribe.

CBI recovered documents during searches which showed that an IRS officer took
Rs1,000,000 (S$21,000) from a businessman to settle a case where the income tax
department had conducted raids and recovered gold, silver and other articles
from the businessman earlier.

The Times of India reported that the businessman was seeking undue favours
from income tax officials with their chartered
accountants
acting as middlemen.

PwC of India fined by US SEC

In 2009, a corporate scandal involving IT giant Satyam Computer Services
rocked both India and New York. Satyam is listed on the New York Stock
Exchange.

At the time, Satyam Chairman Ramalinga Raju confessed that the company’s
accounts had been falsified. The global corporate community was shocked and
scandalised when Ramalinga resigned on 7 January 2009 and confessed that he had
manipulated the accounts by US$1.47-Billion. Last month, he was finally
convicted with 10 other members [Link].


PricewaterhouseCoopers was the statutory auditor of Satyam Computer Services
when the report of scandal in the account books of Satyam Computer Services
broke. The Indian arm of PwC was fined US$6 million by the SEC (US Securities
and Exchange Commission) for not following the code of conduct and auditing
standards in the performance of its duties related to the auditing of the
accounts of Satyam Computer Services.


This was what SEC said about the India-based PwC with regard to the scandal.
It said that the Indian PwC auditors were sanctioned for “repeatedly conducting
deficient audits of the company’s financial statements and enabling a massive
accounting fraud to go undetected for several years”:


SEC Charges
India-Based Affiliates of PWC for Role in Satyam Accounting
Fraud


Washington, D.C., April 5, 2011 – The Securities and Exchange
Commission today sanctioned five India-based affiliates of
PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) that formerly served as independent auditors of
Satyam Computer Services Limited for repeatedly conducting deficient audits of
the company’s financial statements and enabling a massive accounting fraud to go
undetected for several years.

The SEC found that the audit failures by the PW India affiliates – Lovelock
& Lewes, Price Waterhouse Bangalore, Price Waterhouse & Co. Bangalore,
Price Waterhouse Calcutta, and Price Waterhouse & Co. Calcutta – were not
limited to Satyam, but rather indicative of a much larger quality control
failure throughout PW India.



Additional Materials





The PW India affiliates agreed to settle the SEC’s charges and pay a $6
million penalty, the largest ever by a foreign-based accounting firm in an SEC
enforcement action.

* * *

In a related settlement today, Satyam agreed to settle fraud charges, pay a
$10 million penalty, and undertake a series of internal reforms. Since the fraud
came to light, the India government seized control of the company by dissolving
its board of directors and appointing new government-nominated directors, among
other things. Additionally, India authorities filed criminal charges against
several former officials as well as two lead engagement partners from PW
India.

“PW India violated its most fundamental duty as a public watchdog by failing
to comply with some of the most elementary auditing standards and procedures in
conducting the Sataym audits. The result of this failure was very harmful to
Satyam shareholders, employees and vendors,” said Robert Khuzami, Director of
the SEC’s Division of Enforcement.

Cheryl Scarboro, Chief of the SEC’s Foreign Corrupt Practices Act Unit,
added, “PW India failed to conduct even the most fundamental audit procedures.
Audit firms worldwide must take seriously their critical gate-keeping duties
whenever they perform audit engagements for SEC-registered issuers and their
affiliates, and conduct proper audits that exercise professional skepticism and
care.”

The SEC’s order instituting administrative proceedings against the firms
finds that PW India staff failed to conduct procedures to confirm Satyam’s cash
and cash equivalent balances or its accounts receivables. Specifically, the
order finds that PW India’s “failure to properly execute third-party
confirmation procedures resulted in the fraud at Satyam going undetected” for
years. PW India’s failures in auditing Satyam “were indicative of a quality
control failure throughout PW India” because PW India staff “routinely
relinquished control of the delivery and receipt of cash confirmations entirely
to their audit clients and rarely, if ever, questioned the integrity of the
confirmation responses they received from the client by following up with the
banks.”

* * *
In a related proceeding, the PW India affiliates also reached a
settlement with the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board (PCAOB) in which
the PW India firms have been censured and agreed to extensive undertakings
substantially similar to those set forth in the SEC administrative order.
Additionally, Lovelock & Lewes and Price Waterhouse Bangalore have agreed to
pay the PCAOB a $1.5 million penalty for their violations of PCAOB rules and
standards in relation to the Satyam audit engagement.

The Commission acknowledges the assistance of the PCAOB. The SEC’s
investigation is continuing.
So, do you think Singapore should open its door wide to let more accountants
from India to work here?

Tell us what you think.
 

Leongsam

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Indians are the most creative accountants on earth and creativity is something that singapore desperately needs.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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The_Hypocrite

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Singkieland no accountants meh? why need to add more of them into the country? in addition, Ah Neh land soo big and got a growing economy,,why do these nehs need to enter singkieland to get jobs?
 

batman1

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Singapore is just a small farking island,why need to have so many INDIAN workers (accountants and nurses ) come in to jam the whole farking island ?
As if we now do not have enough Indian workers already ?KNNCCB everyday u go out ,u sure see Indian and bang into an Indian.
 

JohnTan

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Singapore is just a small farking island,why need to have so many INDIAN workers (accountants and nurses ) come in to jam the whole farking island ?
As if we now do not have enough Indian workers already ?KNNCCB everyday u go out ,u sure see Indian and bang into an Indian.

Singapore is always short of talented people. Untalented sinkies should make way for foreign talent and go drive taxis, or be their condo security guards.
 

Kuailan

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Singapore is always short of talented people. Untalented sinkies should make way for foreign talent and go drive taxis, or be their condo security guards.

Foreign Trash come with MBA and PhD from degree mill Papaya blinded by all these fakes!

Now Indian accountant being employed to cook ah neh curry, like that finished already!

all account will be the same as MBA and PhD!! all fake!!

Account will be snaking around!!
 

laksaboy

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In case you didn't know already, MOE is already hiring India Indians to be teachers. :wink:

http://forum.brightsparks.com.sg/showthread.php?t=7632

April 2011
70 teachers hired from India to teach in Singapore schools


TEACHERS from India are being recruited to teach here, not just for the Indian Mother Tongue languages but also for subjects such as English, history, geography and economics.

At least 70 of them have been hired in the last four years, with another 10 due here later this year, said a recruitment agency in India engaged by the Ministry of Education (MOE).

Some of these teachers have completed their training at the National Institute of Education (NIE); others are awaiting training or being trained.
 

congo9

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People are just the collateral damage from the bigger things to come. People's well being is being sacrifice that the bosses from our host of TH's company can get a bigger share of business from India. But do we really benefit from it, it is unmeasurable.
 

Froggy

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Indians are great as accountants because they are great with numbers, don't forget they invented the ZERO that changed the world.

[video=youtube;81y1cbdU6Po]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81y1cbdU6Po[/video]
 

Brightkid

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I really cannot understand why PAP want to sign MRA with 3rd world countries when the citizens with so-called first class education in SG cannot get jobs, or suppressed-wage jobs? SG-schooled workers not good enough compared to 3rd world countries's education systems?

What benefits does such MRA bring to the citizens of SG? I can't think of appt from man-on-the-street perspective.
 

laksaboy

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I really cannot understand why PAP want to sign MRA with 3rd world countries when the citizens with so-called first class education in SG cannot get jobs, or suppressed-wage jobs? SG-schooled workers not good enough compared to 3rd world countries's education systems?

What benefits does such MRA bring to the citizens of SG? I can't think of appt from man-on-the-street perspective.

The PAP govt doesn't care about SG citizens. Hiring cheap FTs serves two main objectives:

1) It reduces the wage bills of the corporations here, who in turn will be motivated to 'set up shop' here and rent office space from the REITs.

2) The other countries which had signed the MRA will open up business opportunities for Temasek companies. One example would be the recent joint venture airline in India between SIA and Tata.


Therefore, the next time the pappies crow about how this policy or that agreement will benefit Singapore, always ask yourself which Singapore they're referring to. Don't be fooled by the doublespeak and automatically take their words at face value.
 
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