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Vincent Law: No regrets as bailor for Amos Yee

unclesam

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Amos Yee, a 16 year old teenager who is currently the talk of the country after being charged with harassment, and with deliberately wounding religious feelings for uploading a YouTube video about Singapore’s first prime minister, Mr Lee Kuan Yew and Christianity.

TOC speaks with Mr Vincent Law, a family counselor and a Christian, who bailed Amos Yee out from police remand on 21 April and subsequently discharged himself as bailor on 30 April, Wednesday to find out what he feels about Amos and the breaking of bail terms by Amos.

Discharged as bailor because Amos declined to terms of bail condition

Contrary to the media reports that Mr Law refused to bail Amos out or the notion that Mr Law has given up on Amos, Mr Law had extended an offer to Amos on Wednesday last week to bail him out again.

However, Amos declined to take up the offer by Mr Law.

According to Mr Law, Amos declined because he refused to abide by the bail conditions as he does not want to be gagged by anyone.

With no way of changing Amos’ mind on the matter, Mr Law had to discharge himself as the bailor.

Just another young boy

As a family counselor, Mr Law feels that lending a listening ear is more effective than chatting with troubled youths.

Mr Law says that everyone seems to forget that Amos Yee is still a 16 year old teenager who is still unable to fit into this rigid society. In his conversations with Amos, Mr Law finds that Amos still lacks empathy, is child-like and still unable to take care of others.

When Mr Law was at the recent play, “Public Enemy” by W!ldRice with Amos and his mother, it struck him that Amos is just a boy who has yet grown up despite his outwardly maturity. Apart from requesting to be seated beside his mother, Amos also has his water stored at his mother’s bag, asking from the mother when he needs the water.

Referencing to Amos’ desire for the opposite sex as said in the video he produced, Mr Law said, apart from having the guts to say it out as compared to teens of the same age, he does not see any difference between Amos and other teenagers.

In the video, “My Lost Love“, Amos shares with viewers, his affection towards a girl in school and what he feels about it. He confess how he has perfect eyesight and wears the glasses which are similar to the ones worn by his crush.

Mr Law also added that the frustration of the constant rejection by Amos’ crush is likely to have gotten to him and may be a factor in the whole episode as he is just a teenager and at crossroads in life.

Producing videos and writing the blog posts is an outlet for a teenager like Amos, a way to release his pent up frustation. “There is nothing wrong with it.” said Mr Law, and said it to be a constructive way to vent the frustration when compared with other troubled teens who do so through violence, drugs or even self-inflicted injuries.

In fact, Mr Law say Amos is the most pleasant youth that he has ever worked with as Amos is very responsive to his questions and courteous towards him.

Mr Law as a family counselor counsels youth at risk sent to him through the police, such youths are normally involved in illegal assemblies, fighting or other offences. Usually, the youths would not respond to Mr Law’s questions and being not cooperative in the counselling process. They would also fail to turn up for arranged meetings as they feel that he is wasting their time.

“Amos is different”, said Mr Law as he would reason on points which he does not agree upon.

An example which Mr Law gave is on the discussion he had in regards to the profanity in Amos’ videos. Amos disagreed that he should omit the vulgarities in the videos. Mr Law feels that Amos just simply has to be himself.

No compromising of principles by Amos

While trying to get Amos to reconsider his actions, Mr Law asked if Amos would be willing to change himself for the sake of his crush. Amos rejected the idea despite his interest for the girl and said that he cannot help it if the girl cannot accept him for who he is.

After graduation, Amos for a period of time thought of teaching tution as to obtain a source of income instead of furthering studies in tertiary institutes.

However, Amos gave up the thought of doing so after producing the video, “Why you should drop out of school” as it would be hypocritical of him to be giving tuitions when he told others why they should consider dropping out of school in his youtube video.

The video on Lee Kuan Yew and Christianity is not the first video that Amos produced on current affairs in his youtube channel. Apart from speaking on the Little India Riot, Amos also covered the issue of 377A on the homosexual community. Mr Law was impressed by Amos’ effort in attending meetings of homosexuals to better understand the community and to do research on the topic before producing the video.

No regrets for acting as bailor

On the evening when Mr Law bailed Amos out, he told Amos up front that he is a Christian and asked if he had any problems with that.

“No, no, its fine.”, Mr Law recalled Amos saying in response to his declaration. Amos followed up by saying, “Just like, as much as I may not agree with Lee Kuan Yew’s policies but we can still have a dip in the same swimming pool.”

Mr Law said that he did not regret acting as bailor for Amos despite what Amos did to break the conditions of the bail, as he was already mentally prepared that Amos would break them. He thinks that he is grateful to have the opportunity to interact with Amos through the bail, to allow Amos to face a Christian in person to address his generalization view that Christians are ignorant & stupid people.

Mr Law in his words to Amos when he bailed him out, “I may not approve or agree what you say, but I will defend your right to say what you want to say.”

To Mr Law, Amos is just born in the wrong country, as Singapore’s law does not affirm individual’s freedom of expression and demands individual to conform to social norms.
 

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Leongsam

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To Mr Law, Amos is just born in the wrong country, as Singapore’s law does not affirm individual’s freedom of expression and demands individual to conform to social norms.

They look alike.
 

yellowarse

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Vincent Law is the kind of Christian Singapore needs. Not the money-grubbing ones like Kong Hee or hypocritical reactionaries like Lawrence Khong or the half-baked fundies spamming this forum.
 

gingerlyn

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Vincent Law rapes singapore judiciary
To Mr Law, Amos is just born in the wrong country, as Singapore’s law does not affirm individual’s freedom of expression and demands individual to conform to social norms.
 

winners

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As a counselor, his job is to advise and provide proper guidance to Amos in the right direction. However, I see it as even he, has failed in this mission, especially with the forever rebellious Amos.

In addition, by giving more praises to Amos is not going to do the latter any good, but will only encourage him to get bolder and gives him the wrong impression of further endorsement that what he had done so far is not wrong. These people are not really helping Amos, but are sending all the wrong signals to him, for better or for worse. Those who are against the government is just using him as a scapegoat for self-release since they have no other better means of doing so by themselves. Shame to these hypocrites.
 

laksaboy

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As a counselor, his job is to advise and provide proper guidance to Amos in the right direction. However, I see it as even he, has failed in this mission, especially with the forever rebellious Amos.

Sinkies should be furious and rebelling against the PAP govt and the Lees by now. Rebellion is not a crime against tyranny.

If you're not angry, you're not paying attention.
 

sirus

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Teen blogger Amos Yee pleads not guilty to both charges at start of two-day trial
- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/si...ay-trial-begins-20150507#sthash.1Wus4zrt.dpuf

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AMIR HUSSAIN AND OLIVIA HO

SINGAPORE - Clad in a white prison T-shirt and brown shorts, and in handcuffs and leg shackles, teenage blogger Amos Yee Pang Sang pleaded not guilty to the two charges against him in court on Thursday morning at the start of his two-day trial.

The 16-year-old, who has been in the media spotlight since he was charged in court for three offences on March 31, smiled at times as he sat in the dock.

He has been in remand in Changi Prison since last Thursday, after his bailor, family and youth counsellor Vincent Law discharged himself, following a breach by Yee of his bail terms.

The Attorney-General's Chambers is prosecuting Yee on two charges - for allegedly attacking Christianity with the deliberate intention of wounding the religious feelings of Christians, and for purportedly transmitting electronically an image showing obscene figures.

The teen who is claiming trial, entered pleas of "not guilty" to the two charges.

A third charge, stood down for now, relates to the Protection from Harassment Act. It accuses him of making an online video containing offensive remarks about the late founding prime minister Mr Lee Kuan Yew. The prosecution will assess whether to bring this charge at a later date.

Seated inside the packed courtroom on Thursday were Yee's parents, Mr Law, and prominent civil society activists Roy Ngerng, Andrew Loh and Teo Soh Lung. Earlier, Mr Law, was one of the first to arrive at the State Court at 9.15am. He was followed by Mr Ngerng and Yee's mother, Mary Toh, 48. Yee's father came shortly after.

Mr Law, who was at the head of a queue to enter the courtroom, said he came to support the teenager: "I hope Amos gets a good trial. I never changed my mind about bailing him out. It was his decision and I respect it."



Yee was first remanded on April 17 after the judge at a pre-trial conference converted the $20,000 police bail that he had been on to court bail, requiring bail to be reposted, but his parents decided against posting bail.

Four days later, he was bailed out by Mr Law, who was hoping that the teen would be willing to be counselled.

Yee was sent back to remand last Thursday after Mr Law discharged himself, following a breach by Yee of his bail terms. Yee, who was out on $20,000 bail, made two posts on his blog and shared those posts on his Facebook page.

At his pre-trial conference that Thursday afternoon District Judge Kessler Soh asked Yee to take down his latest posts, but he refused.

The judge raised bail from $20,000 to $30,000, with the same conditions. At the hearing, the prosecution also proposed that his trial be expedited.

The High Court, which heard a motion challenging Yee's bail conditions on Wednesday, upheld his current bail conditions, under which he cannot post any content online.

If convicted of uploading content online that contained remarks against Christianity, with the deliberate intention of wounding the religious feelings of Christians, Yee could be jailed for up to three years and fined.

If convicted of transmitting electronically an image showing obscene figures, Yee faces imprisonment for up to three months and a fine.

The court has been adjourned till 2.30pm tomorrow, following a request by Yee's lawyers for more time to look through the evidence submitted by the prosecution.

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tonychat

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As a counselor, his job is to advise and provide proper guidance to Amos in the right direction. However, I see it as even he, has failed in this mission, especially with the forever rebellious Amos.

In addition, by giving more praises to Amos is not going to do the latter any good, but will only encourage him to get bolder and gives him the wrong impression of further endorsement that what he had done so far is not wrong. These people are not really helping Amos, but are sending all the wrong signals to him, for better or for worse. Those who are against the government is just using him as a scapegoat for self-release since they have no other better means of doing so by themselves. Shame to these hypocrites.

You mean you are telling a counsellor how to be a counsellor? Where the fuck did that come from?
I thought you will be better off telling him how to suck PAP dicks and then get a salary from doing that?
 

Narong Wongwan

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Amos Yee, the young hero

We hail him as a hero because this 16 year old kid has more guts than us and sticks to his principles.
It's sad when we have to look to a 16 year old kid to show us the right way.....
It's sad we stand by and do nothing while the tyrants bully him and keep bullying him....
Perhaps now is the time to finally show your displeasure to vile pappies for all the evil deeds they have done.
 

Tuayapeh

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We hail him as a hero because this 16 year old kid has more guts than us and sticks to his principles.
It's sad when we have to look to a 16 year old kid to show us the right way.....
It's sad we stand by and do nothing while the tyrants bully him and keep bullying him....
Perhaps now is the time to finally show your displeasure to vile pappies for all the evil deeds they have done.

Actually young kids are more daring then adult they have nothing to lose.
 

winners

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You mean you are telling a counsellor how to be a counsellor? Where the fuck did that come from?
I thought you will be better off telling him how to suck PAP dicks and then get a salary from doing that?
You know, 1 of the biggest fuck in this forum is you, TONYFUCK. You are not only a balless bastard, but also a coward. You have no better means to deal with the PAP yourself but can only keep on praising, encouraging and endorsing what Amos has been doing because his actions so far are of the same intention as yours, out to instill hatred and political disorder between the Sinkies and the government. You fucking hypocrite. If you are really that concern for him, you should have gone to bail him out at his second remand. This alone shows what fucking worthless character (if any) you possess.

By the way, I don't usually want to argue with a retard who can't even spell correctly between "Diary" and "Dairy". Enough said.
 
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soIsee

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Vincent Law is the kind of Christian Singapore needs. Not the money-grubbing ones like Kong Hee or hypocritical reactionaries like Lawrence Khong or the half-baked fundies spamming this forum.

Agree. Sinkland should have leaders with qualities like Vincent Law.

But I guess ppl who have qualities like Vincent Law ain't interested in politics as it is DIRTY.

How ironic.
 

Tuayapeh

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Agree. Sinkland should have leaders with qualities like Vincent Law.

But I guess ppl who have qualities like Vincent Law ain't interested in politics as it is DIRTY.

How ironic.

Do not let a religious person to run a state, period.
 
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