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Singapore Wants Kids to Skip College: Good Luck With That (Bloomberg)

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Singaporean Carmen Kok regrets that she never made it to university. She’s not letting her daughter make the same mistake, even if she has to send her abroad to get a place.

“You can’t rise up in Singapore without a degree,” said Kok, 47, who plans to spend three times what she makes in a year as a hairdresser to send her daughter to college in South Korea. “She may be able to get a job if she doesn’t go to university, but she can get a higher salary if she goes.”

Singapore’s Tiger moms are becoming a headache for Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, who is trying to persuade the population that they don’t need to go to university to have a good career. After a clampdown on immigration and a slowdown in the economy, he needs fewer graduates and more workers to fill the shipyards, factory floors and hotel desks that keep the country going.

Lee, who graduated from Cambridge University in England with top honors, is leading a campaign that includes speeches and roadshows to persuade more youths to join the workforce under a system modeled on Germany’s apprenticeship system. The “earn and learn” program would place graduates from technical schools into jobs, while giving them the chance to continue part-time education.

Intentional Trend
Lee is the latest Asian leader with an A-starred education system to try to put the brakes on, as universities turn out more and more graduates who aren’t matched to the jobs available. A few years ago, South Korea said it may close some higher-education institutes amid what then-President Lee Myung Bak called “reckless university enrollment.”

“There is a clear international trend in the developed world to make vocational education a true choice for more young people,” said Pasi Sahlberg, a visiting professor at Harvard University’s Graduate School of Education in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Yet, many still see it as a “secondary choice,” especially in Asia, where parents tend to believe that “higher education would be the only key to prosperity and success.”

Six out of 10 Singaporeans between 25 and 29 years old completed tertiary education, the highest proportion in the world and just ahead of South Korea, according to the latest World Bank figures from 2010.

‘Work Hard’
In a televised address last August, Singapore’s Lee celebrated two employees at Keppel Corp Ltd., the world’s biggest builder of offshore oil rigs, who had risen through the ranks without a graduate diploma.

“They may not have degrees, but they are working hard and trying to improve themselves,” Lee said. “So long as you work hard, you can always hope for a brighter future here in Singapore.”

The Straits Times, Singapore’s most widely-read newspaper, has run profiles of Singaporeans who achieved career success after eschewing or postponing college. An October survey by the paper showed readers equally divided over whether it is possible to succeed in the country without a degree.

“The success of this campaign is crucial for Singapore going forward, as it reshapes its labor market,” said Vishnu Varathan, a Singapore-based economist at Mizuho Bank Ltd. “It’s a hard sell for Singaporeans who see college as the route to a good salary.”

Lifetime earnings for a typical U.S. bachelor’s degree holder is twice that of someone with a high-school diploma, according to a study by the Brookings Institution’s Hamilton Project released in September. In Singapore, the median starting salary for graduates with a four-year electrical engineering degree was S$3,135 ($2,370) in 2013, compared with S$1,750 for those who studied the same subject at a technical institute, according to data from the Ministry of Manpower.

Problem Solving
The Southeast Asian nation’s education system is regularly ranked among the best in the world. Students aged 15 from Singapore and South Korea topped those in 44 countries in problem solving, according to a report last year by the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development.

South Korea is now encouraging companies to hire young people and is pushing for a job-sharing wage system to reduce youth unemployment.

Singapore already has a system that sorts children into different subject-based bands at school after testing starting at age 10. They’re later placed into junior colleges or technical institutes based on exams at 16 or 17. Those going to junior college have a higher chance of entry into a local university.

Under Singapore’s earn-and-learn program, technical school leavers would receive on-the-job training while they study for an industry qualification, according to the government’s budget for this fiscal year. Each Singaporean who is placed in the program will receive a S$5,000 bonus. A pilot plan next year will place some graduates from the technical institutes in apprenticeships in sectors including aerospace, logistics and information technology.

“We can’t become a Germany, but what we can do is adapt some of the very strong points for certain sectors and certain types of skills,” S. Iswaran, second minister for trade, said in an interview on Feb. 24.

German Model
Germany’s Dual Vocational Training System allows school-leavers at 18 to apply to a private company for a contract that mixes on-the-job learning with a broader education at a publicly funded vocational school.

Persuading Singaporeans to go down the same route will be an uphill task after decades of extolling the importance of education. Singapore households spent S$1.1 billion on tutors outside school in the year ended September 2013, according to the most-recent survey by the statistics department.

Every member of the cabinet has a degree, and the civil service continues to offer students full scholarships to top colleges overseas as a form of recruitment.

Two of Lee’s sons went to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, while his deputies Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Teo Chee Hean have sons who went to Cambridge University in England and Brown University in Rhode Island on government scholarships.

Singapore subsidizes the bulk of tuition fees at local universities for its citizens, making the cost about S$7,950 a year for an arts and social sciences degree at National University of Singapore. That compares with about $45,000 a year at Harvard University without financial aid for a full-time student.

Many Singaporeans who don’t get into a local college go abroad. Four in 10 graduates in the resident labor force last year got their degrees overseas.

“The government shouldn’t tell people not to go to university unless they can promise the same job opportunities as graduates,” said Kenneth Chen, 26, whose parents spent more than S$170,000 on a sports science degree in Brisbane, Australia, after he graduated with a biotechnology diploma in Singapore. “But obviously that’s not going to happen.”
 

eErotica69

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KNN to go Uni or not also need instructions from Govt meh??

Btw some wise guys here will say no need to go uni. Just from degree mill.
 

Devil Within

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Singapore gov don't want you to get degree because you can easily migrate to other countries. Without a degree, you have lesser chance to leave Singapore and CPF will be locked forever. Also, those in power want you to remain stupid as long as possible. Just like some religion that forbid the apple of knowledge. Once you gain knowledge, you won't believe in their lies and fairy tales anymore.
 

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Listen to the government. The next time when you lose your job to a FT, they will tell you it's because you don't have a degree, the FT has one and is more qualified. Then they will start the bullshit about re-training and offer to subsidize your training courses if you sign up with one of those training centers approved by the government.

Remember it was the government who asked you to stop at two. Now they're importing FTs to take over your jobs, grant citizenships on the pretext that there is not enough Singapore citizens.
 

laksaboy

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Listen to the government. The next time when you lose your job to a FT, they will tell you it's because you don't have a degree, the FT has one and is more qualified. Then they will start the bullshit about re-training and offer to subsidize your training courses if you sign up with one of those training centers approved by the government.

Remember it was the government who asked you to stop at two. Now they're importing FTs to take over your jobs, grant citizenships on the pretext that there is not enough Singapore citizens.

Watch what they do, ignore what they say.

Until one of the cabinet ministers happens to be a school dropout or diploma/ITE graduate, their words are hollow hypocrisy.
 

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Nonsense!! the pay in south Korea is lower then singapore!! and many people graduate from university can't find a job.
 

Tuayapeh

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even south korean woman come here and work in flower joint!! Stupid sinkies watch too much korean drama.
 

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WP Ee Jenn Jong: FAP Spends Whopping $144 Million on Free Scholarships for Foreigners
http://wp.sg/2012/05/rally-1-jennjong/

One of our important functions in parliament is to raise questions that are important to Singaporeans. One of the issues I had raised as a new Member of Parliament is about foreign scholarships. I have long wondered about how many foreign scholars we have, how we integrate them into our society, and how they have contributed to Singapore.
In January this year, I asked a question in parliament about the number of foreign scholars we have and their academic performance. The answer I received was that each year, Singapore gives 320 scholarships to ASEAN students. I was puzzled. I checked my question again and it clearly asked about the number of foreign scholars and not the number of ASEAN scholars. Why was the complete information not given to me?
So I asked again in February. This time, they disclosed that MOE gives out another 1,700 scholarships to scholars from India and China. When you add up these numbers, we have more than 2,000 new foreign scholars each year. A scholarship is usually for 4 years. This means that at any time, we could have around 8,000 foreign scholars, sponsored fully by our Singapore government. Based on an average of $18,000 spent per scholar a year, I estimate our government could be spending about 144 million dollars each year on foreign scholarships. This figure excludes foreign scholars sponsored by government linked companies.

I asked further and found that one third of universities’ foreign scholars graduate with worse than 2nd upper honours degree, the typical standard expected of all scholars. Scholars are supposed to be the cream of the crop so I am disappointed that a large percentage of MOE foreign scholars are not getting the minimum results.
Many of our pre-tertiary foreign scholars go to other countries for their university studies, never to return as they are not bonded to work in Singapore. The university foreign scholars are bonded but there are those that do not complete their bond or leave as soon as their bond is over.
So I seriously question how effective our foreign scholarship policy has been, given the huge amount of money spent each year in this area. Our foreign scholarship policy has been in place for over 3 decades. That’s over 30 years, a long period of time. I think we may have given out too many foreign scholarships too easily in the past, without ensuring all scholars are of the right academic quality and more importantly, to try to integrate them into our society so they will want to be part of us and contribute to our long term growth.
The government has set a quota for the number of foreign students in our local government funded universities. We pride ourselves that our universities are highly ranked in the world. I do not understand why is it then that we need to give so many scholarships to attract foreigners to study here. Since we have world-class universities, people should pay money to come to Singapore to study. After all, most of us will have to fund our children to study either in our local universities or overseas. And we all know that the cost of tertiary education in Singapore has been constantly rising. Our universities, polytechnics and ITE just had fee increases this year. Every single one of them.
The Workers’ Party will continue to question the PAP and hold them accountable for the policies they have put in place, to ensure that our resources are well used and that Singaporeans as a whole will benefit.
I know that if elected, Png Eng Huat will add strongly to our voice to check the PAP. I look forward to having him as my parliamentary colleague. Your vote is important. Every vote is precious to us. Vote The Workers’ Party! Thank you!​
 

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The article was talking how good our education system is and I was wondering why then we still need "Foreign Talents" especially in the middle income tier.....
 

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Two of Lee’s sons went to the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, while his deputies Tharman Shanmugaratnam and Teo Chee Hean have sons who went to Cambridge University in England and Brown University in Rhode Island on government scholarships.

A logical person will find it difficult to believe that all the offsprings of the ministars are so smart to win government scholarships.

Secondly, the offsprings of ministars do not need the money, so why the hell are they depriving more qualified and deserving sinkees from getting those scholarships?
 

da dick

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if shipyards not full of ah neh, and restaurants not full of ah tiongs, then i believe a shit the pinkie and the ntuc says. pappies screw everyone, degree or no degree.
 

batman1

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if shipyards not full of ah neh, and restaurants not full of ah tiongs, then i believe a shit the pinkie and the ntuc says. pappies screw everyone, degree or no degree.

MIW open the floodgates for colossal number of foreign workers to come into this small island called Singapore.
NTUC is irrelevantit ,it did not voice out against the large number of foreign workers in Singapore.
 

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If Sinkies keep on trusting PAP, their Kids and Grand Kids will be slaves to the present Cronies of the Familee. Ask PAP how many of their Cronies Kids
will skip havin a degree? Dont get conned by this regime.
 

JohnTan

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Some of the grassroots leaders and myself had given feedback to MPs that it is futile to persuade sinkies to not go to college. The system here is such that if you do not have a degree, preferably real one, you are relegated to the lower rungs of society by default. The only exception is to go into business yourself.

My two kids are studying in elite schools, and I hope that my son, who is in RJC, will win a top PSC scholarship in the near future. Many sinkie parents who invested so much in their kids' education, are also hoping for the same thing. Even for those parents and kids who do not aspire for scholarships, getting the crumbs which includes graduating from NUS or NTU with good honours degree would open the doors to a better future.

PAP will lose votes if it continues to push for a system that restricts sinkies from getting their degrees.
 

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Nothing works better than a good bribe even between father and son :biggrin:

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