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Couple behind The Real Singapore charged under Sedition Act

phouse3

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Internet Strategy by a clever opposition party - TRS for hardcore supporters, TOC for the middleground and TRE a hybrid of the two.
 

mojito

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they got owned so bad...

these 2 actually managed to buy a $377k apartment in an affluent suburb in Brisbane, Australia. thanks to the dumb fucks who keep clicking on their site.

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Are you certain the ads are as profitable as you think, allowing them to pay for their home? So many savvy youngsters now using ad blockers.
 

johnny333

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they got owned so bad...

these 2 actually managed to buy a $377k apartment in an affluent suburb in Brisbane, Australia. thanks to the dumb fucks who keep clicking on their site.

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Does owning a $377,000 home make you rich:confused:
Many HDB units are valued more than that :eek: Some HDB units in Toa Payoh & Bishan are going for over $1,000,000

Looking at the place it is obvious than living in Australia is much cheaper than in Spore. One can get a mansion compared to a tiny HDB flat:(

For the majority of Sporeans they are still paying $$$ to the banks. At least in Australia you have a minimum wage.
 

zeroo

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1. According to the local press, The Real Singapore is controlled by three persons, two of whom are foreigners. One of the two foreigners, a Malaysian has not been arrested at press time.

How did we allow two foreigners to run a website that is known for using lies, half-truths, and misinformation to promote unhappiness, disunity, and hatred in our country?

2. The only Singaporean who helps to run it is mainly involved in the commercial side of the business.

How can a fellow Singaporean sell out our country in the name of money and live in peace?

3. In their dislike for a particular political party and the government, many have directly and indirectly supported "The Real Singapore" and use it to vent their negative emotions and thoughts.

Will we learn from it or will we repeat it again even if "The Real Singapore" is taken down and other website takes its place?

4. "The Real Singapore" has manipulated facts to attract eyeballs and participation.

Many people have in the past believed in the content "The Real Singapore" put up. They do not do their own research, think critically, and pursue the truth.

They have shared the information and have been used by the principal owners. Sadly, they do not know that they have been used by others.

Will it happen again in the future? How can we prevent it from happening again?

5. If the three persons are found guilty, the fine may just be financially low by comparison to the potential earnings from a website that thrives on appealing to base instincts.

How should the government prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law so that it will be a powerful deterrent to those who may consider becoming involved in such a destructive business?

I have no concrete answers to these concerns.
 

johnny333

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1. According to the local press, The Real Singapore is controlled by three persons, two of whom are foreigners. One of the two foreigners, a Malaysian has not been arrested at press time. ......


Do you have to be a Spoean to write about Spore:confused: Roy & Amos are Sporeans & they are in trouble because of their posts.

If locals & foreigners are NOT allowed to voice their views, who is allowed to do so :confused:
 

wendychan

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..U MEAN IF they reprnted readers enails thats sedetion?
Prc woman stealing husband.. how does anyon e know it is NOT true?
 

yellowarse

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Do you have to be a Spoean to write about Spore:confused: Roy & Amos are Sporeans & they are in trouble because of their posts.

If locals & foreigners are NOT allowed to voice their views, who is allowed to do so :confused:

Exactly. Sinkie gongkias have been suckered into buying the PAP spiel that only S'poreans can comment on Singapore affairs.

Says who? There's not a single signed international accord or law or convention that says that foreigners cannot comment on a country's matters. Our reporters and editors comment on China's politics, the Aussies criticize our govt all the time, and the American journalists comment on the whole world.

If only locals can comment on a nations' affairs, then the whole world should do away with foreign correspondents and reporting of international news in national newspapers.
 

laksaboy

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Exactly. Sinkie gongkias have been suckered into buying the PAP spiel that only S'poreans can comment on Singapore affairs.

Says who? There's not a single signed international accord or law or convention that says that foreigners cannot comment on a country's matters. Our reporters and editors comment on China's politics, the Aussies criticize our govt all the time, and the American journalists comment on the whole world.

If only locals can comment on a nations' affairs, then the whole world should do away with foreign correspondents and reporting of international news in national newspapers.

What I find more disturbing is that you are liable to be charged under sedition laws for offending Pinoys. How low can the PAP stoop in its quest to crush dissenting views?
 

borom

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Till today nothing done by the govt against Carlos R Pestano III , the Seagate Engineer who called locals rotten.
Also no govt action against the 2 nurses who slapped the old lady at the nursing home.

Are they tackling the real issues that gave rise to these sentiments or simply trying to suppress it?
Its like using Panadol-only numb the pain(criticism) temporarily but the bacteria/virus(sentiments)are still there.
 
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theone

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Unless the poodles can prove that the duo had posted the alleged offending articles while they're in Singapore, I don't understand how they can be charged for sedition since no crime is committed within this jurisdiction :confused:
 

Asterix

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Do Sinkies deserve to live in a climate of fear?

What do you think?

Where is their Law Society? Deaf and dumb?

[video=youtube;ibpbVBWHHWk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibpbVBWHHWk[/video]
 

Asterix

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Exactly. Sinkie gongkias have been suckered into buying the PAP spiel that only S'poreans can comment on Singapore affairs.

Says who? There's not a single signed international accord or law or convention that says that foreigners cannot comment on a country's matters. Our reporters and editors comment on China's politics, the Aussies criticize our govt all the time, and the American journalists comment on the whole world.

If only locals can comment on a nations' affairs, then the whole world should do away with foreign correspondents and reporting of international news in national newspapers.

Neither Mediacorp nor RTM will interview the American envoy and get his honest views on the use of the Sedition Act to silence critics. However, if MalaysiaKini can pull it off so can its equivalent in Sinkieland if any. If none, one should be created ASAP, legal or otherwise.

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Singapore Press Holdings sues TRS couple for copyright infringement


Published on May 18, 2015 1:09 PM

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Court papers for a copyright infringement suit initiated by Singapore Press Holdings were served to Ai Takagi (left) and Yang Kaiheng (right), the couple behind sociopolitical website The Real Singapore, outside State Courts on May 18, 2015. -- ST PHOTO: WONG KWAI CHOW

By Elena Chong & Tham Yuen-C

SINGAPORE - Singapore Press Holdings (SPH) has brought a copyright infringement suit against the duo behind The Real Singapore (TRS) socio-political website.

The Singapore-listed media group alleged that content from its newspapers had been reproduced on the website without permission between January 2011 and April this year.

A writ of summons and statement of claim were filed in the High Court on May 7 and the papers served on Yang Kaiheng, 26, and Ai Takagi, 22, yesterday.

They were served by a clerk from WongPartnership, representing SPH, as they walked to the State Courts in Havelock Square for a pre-trial conference for a separate sedition case.

Yang, a Singaporean, and Takagi, his Australian fiancee, have been identified as being editors, developers, operators, moderators and administrators of TRS.

In its statement of claim, SPH cited at least 191 articles from its stable of newspapers that were substantially reproduced, without licence or authorisation, in the form of 177 articles on TRS.

The SPH articles included crime and political stories as well as commentaries, and first ran in The Straits Times, The Business Times, The New Paper and MyPaper.

The media company said in court papers that Yang and Takagi had “systematically and consistently” used these articles for content on TRS, and received financial benefit from doing so.

Twice this year – on March 18 and April 2 – SPH sent letters to Yang and Takagi notifying them of the copyright infringement.

The “TRS Editorial Team” replied to the first letter via e-mail the same day, acknowledging their articles contained “copyright infringing contents... uploaded by those who have writer accounts”. It said the articles “have now been removed”. It did not reply to SPH’s second letter.

But SPH contends in its claim that some articles remained accessible on the website until early this month, when TRS was ordered to shut down by the Media Development Authority (MDA) for publishing articles deemed “objectionable on the grounds of public interest, public order and national harmony”.

SPH is asking the court to declare that TRS infringed its copyright. It wants an injunction to stop TRS from continuing to do so; damages; or alternatively an account of profits that TRS made through the articles and the payment of the amount to SPH.

TRS was taken down by its editors on May 3, after the MDA suspended the licence of Yang and Takagi to operate the site.

The media regulator said they deliberately made up articles to incite anti-foreigner sentiment and undermine national harmony here, to drive traffic to the site and raise advertising dollars.

The couple have made representations to the MDA on the matter, and are awaiting a review that will determine if their licence will be revoked.

Yang and Takagi were charged with seven counts of sedition for articles published between October 2013 and February this year that allegedly promoted ill-will and hostility between different races or classes here. They face another charge of failing to produce documents, such as financial statements, to investigators.

Earlier this month, Yang was allowed to visit his critically ill father in Brisbane, Australia. He returned a week ago. His father is also back and hospitalised here.

The couple’s lawyer Choo Zheng Xi said yesterday that he will be making representations to the Attorney-General’s Chambers on the criminal case. The next pre-trial conference for the case is on July 1.


 

winnipegjets

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1. According to the local press, The Real Singapore is controlled by three persons, two of whom are foreigners. One of the two foreigners, a Malaysian has not been arrested at press time.

How did we allow two foreigners to run a website that is known for using lies, half-truths, and misinformation to promote unhappiness, disunity, and hatred in our country?

You are lucky that there are foreigners who take an interest in sinkapore. Most foreign press can't be bothered with peesai. These foreigners love sinkapore more than sinkees; that's why they decide to educate sinkees on the real world.

2. The only Singaporean who helps to run it is mainly involved in the commercial side of the business.
Why the xenophobia? You don't want sinkees to discriminate against foreigners and here you are not walking your talk. That's so PAP.

How can a fellow Singaporean sell out our country in the name of money and live in peace?
That's a question I ask all the time ...how can our well-paid ministars sell our country and sinkees out? Sinkapore is the first prostitute state in the world. The PAP has prostituted sinkapore to India and China, soon to Philippines as well. Why, why, tell me why?


3. In their dislike for a particular political party and the government, many have directly and indirectly supported "The Real Singapore" and use it to vent their negative emotions and thoughts.
We hate traitors and it is the patriotic duty of every sinkees to bring these traitors down and use the full extent of the law to punish them.


Will we learn from it or will we repeat it again even if "The Real Singapore" is taken down and other website takes its place?
Sinkees must seek to know the truth about their country and the PAP. Those information is not available from the PAP Press.

4. "The Real Singapore" has manipulated facts to attract eyeballs and participation.
TRS tells the true story while the PAP Press tells the party line.

Many people have in the past believed in the content "The Real Singapore" put up. They do not do their own research, think critically, and pursue the truth.
Sinkees started to do research and came upon TRS. Finally, they get to see the real sinkapore.

They have shared the information and have been used by the principal owners. Sadly, they do not know that they have been used by others.
Sadly, PAP supporters choose to be blind.



5. If the three persons are found guilty, the fine may just be financially low by comparison to the potential earnings from a website that thrives on appealing to base instincts.
I hope for successor sites to tell the truth about sinkaproe.

How should the government prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law so that it will be a powerful deterrent to those who may consider becoming involved in such a destructive business?
The truth will bring down the PAP. Traitors like Zeroo and JohnTan should be executed.
 

Tuayapeh

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So all along is the voice of foreigners, not the real Singaporean. dumb fuck oppies supporters got owned again.


Actually is PAP being fucked because they imported FT to fuck their own organization :wink:
 
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