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lKY rejected CIA bribery of US$3.3m

Scrooball (clone)

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"In the late 1950s, the CIA were worried about what they saw as the PAP's close ties with pro-communist elements. They even approached the British Special Branch about it but the SB told the CIA not to worry (the British knew Lee better than the Americans). The CIA, naturally, decided to take matters into their own hands, and mounted their own covert op to infiltrate Singapore's intelligence apparatus. This was discovered in 1960. The local CIA station chief then apparently tried to bribe Lee to hush up the matter, offering him US$3.3 million. Lee refused and counter-proposed US$33 million in aid to Singapore. Eventually, Dean Rusk, Kennedy's Secretary of State, who had inherited the mess, wrote Lee a formal letter of apology in 1961 for the affair. But when Lee recounted the story a few years later, the CIA issued one of its automatic denials. Lee was enraged - not only had the CIA tried to bribe him like some tin-pot third world dictator, now they were calling him a liar. He produced the letter and threatened to broadcast tape recordings of the incident. The CIA hastily retracted its denial. Lee said, "The Americans should know the character of the men they are dealing with in Singapore and not get themselves further dragged into calumny. They are not dealing with Ngo Dinh Diem or Syngman Rhee. You do not buy and sell this Government." - See more at: http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/ar...d-s33-million-bribe-1960#sthash.X4vdB5LR.dpuf
 

spotter542

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Gong cheebye don't talk cock la. U only earn $3.3k per mth in 2015.

U think US$3.3m in 1960 is peanuts?





You are wrong , I earn less than SGD3.3K per month in 2015 :rolleyes:
Someone converted the US$3.3 million to today's value to around US$26 million , what is US$26 million to Harry ?
SIA , Starhub , Lee & Lee and many more of his companies generate more than that in a year :eek:
Take the US$3.3 million just to slay the golden goose ?
:oIo:
 

Scrooball (clone)

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You are wrong , I earn less than SGD3.3K per month in 2015 :rolleyes: Someone converted the US$3.3 million to today's value to around US$26 million , what is US$26 million to Harry ? SIA , Starhub , Lee & Lee and many more of his companies generate more than that in a year :eek: Take the US$3.3 million just to slay the golden goose ? :oIo:

Are u stupid? If u take US$3.3 million and buy property in 1960, your money would have been at least US$150 million in 2015.
 

yellowarse

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LKY is not used to being BRIBED! He is more at home offering BRIBES!

That didn't stop him from opening a Swiss numbered account in the '60s and insisting on a 'facilitating fee' being wired there for every MNC that was given a licence to set up shop here.

Gongkia Sinkies will never understand that you don't get to be the richest family in Singapore by playing it straight and honest. :rolleyes:
 

Asterix

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Some points:

1. The badness in LKY was already evident from his activities during the Japanese Occupation, which must be known amongst the populace at the time of the 1950s and 60s when he was but one of many aspiring politicians, hence the need to explain them away (clumsily) in his book.

2. Truly incorruptible person would reject extra egg for his char kway teow when he knows that the only reason why he is given that freebie is because he is the Prime Minister, a public SERVANT. Such an incorruptible person most certainly would not sue for defamation when the extra egg turned out to be expensive apartments bought at discount not accorded to any Tom, Dick or Harry.

3. Good people (assuming that someone who worked for the Kempeitei during the Japanese Occupation can be called such) can become bad over time.

4. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, the below extract from Book I, Chapter XLVI of Machiavelli's Discourses on Livy is instructive.

5. I am so glad that I have the foresight to see what sort of citizen LKY is and UPGRADED for my own good.

6. LKY used every trick in the book to ensure that institutions which existed in democratic countries, which would have checked his power and the dangers that it brings to the freedom of the citizenry, are NOT allowed to strive in Sinkieland. Therefore, he is BAD for Sinkieland.

"............ in what way men jump from one ambition to another, and how very true is that sentence which Sallust placed in the mouth of Caesar, That all evil examples have their origin in good beginnings. Those ambitious Citizens ((as was said before)) who live in a Republic seek in the first instance not to be able to be harmed, not only by private (citizens), but even by the Magistrates: in order to do this, they seek friendships, and to acquire them either by apparently honest means, or by supplying them money or defending them from the powerful: and as this seems virtuous, everyone is easily deceived and no one takes any remedy against this, until he, persevering without hindrance, becomes of a kind whom the Citizen fear, and the Magistrates treat with consideration. And when he has risen to that rank, and his greatness not having been obviated at the beginning, it finally comes to be most dangerous in attempting to pit oneself against him, for the reasons which I mentioned above concerning the dangers involved in abating an evil which has already grown much in a City; so that the matter in the end is reduced to this, that you need either to seek to extinguish it with the hazard of sudden ruin, or by allowing it to go on, enter into manifest servitude, unless death or some accident frees you from him. For when the Citizens and the Magistrates come to the above mentioned limits and become afraid to offend him and his friends, it will not take much effort afterwards to make them judge and offend according to his will. Whence a Republic, among its institutions, ought to have these, to see that its Citizens under an aura of good are not able to do evil, and that they should acquire that reputation which does good and not harm to liberty, as will be discussed by us in its proper place."

http://www.constitution.org/mac/disclivy1.htm#1:45
 
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eatshitndie

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the cia is fucked up, then and now. he was already in bed with the british sb after ww2 when sb rounded up former kempetai agents and collaborators to work for them. he was their man in sg. the predecessor of the cia during ike's time as potus was more in tune with what was going on with the sb and let the brits handle intell on commies in malaya and south east asia at large (burma included). the cia continues to fuck up in cambodia and burma, not mentioning many other theaters outside of s.e.a. every change of administration and appointments, especially when it's the dem in charge, their state and intell apparatus get fucked up in transition and continue to make old mistakes.
 

greedy and cunning

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This proves what an honorable man LKY was.

tis proof u talked cock again.

during the 50s and 60s sillyppoore was not fully independence.
the creature you claimed to be able to divert a storm was just elected as an PM in 1959
before that there was Legislative Council , and I don't know what it was.
sillypooor joined Malaysia and later forced to leave in 1965 ,
it became fully independent in that year.
the main point --
1] during the 50s and 60s , it was still a relatively poor cunty.
2] during this period the creature you claimed to be able to divert a storm
truly and genuinely wanted to help the silly people.

after fully entrenched with power it acted mischievously , especially
when it see the mountain of money sillypooor accumulated , and the great income difference
it getting and those successfool doctors, lawyers , bankers were getting.
 
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