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Oz offers to pay for inmates to be kept alive

Agoraphobic

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Oz looks determined to save two of her citizens from being executed in Indonesia for heroin smuggling. Their PM has made it clear that Oz abhors drug smuggling, but also abhors the death sentence. The country is putting her money where her mouth is. Whether she succeeds or not is in the hands of Indon pres Jokowi, but it does display a firm commitment.

Cheers!


http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/austral...risoners-if-kept-alive-by-indonesia-1.2275855

Australia offers to pay for 2 prisoners if kept alive by Indonesia

Rod McGuirk, The Associated Press

Published Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:14AM EDT

CANBERRA, Australia -- Australia has offered to cover Indonesia's costs for keeping two Australian heroin traffickers in prison for life if Jakarta grants permanent stays of execution, the foreign minister said Thursday.
Australia is lobbying hard to prevent the executions by firing squad of Australians Andrew Chan, 31, and Myuran Sukumaran, 33. They are among nine foreign drug convicts plus an Indonesian who are to be executed soon on Nusakambangan Island prison off the main island of Java.
The offer to pay for the prisoners' keep was made by Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop last week in a letter to her Indonesian counterpart Retno Marsudi and reported by The West Australian newspaper on Thursday.

Bishop confirmed the offer was among several suggestions of alternatives to executions.
"We haven't had a specific response to that suggestion," Bishop told reporters.

The letter, seen by The Associated Press, proposes a prisoner exchange in which the Australians would be swapped for three Indonesian drug traffickers held in Australian prisons.
"The Australian government would be prepared to cover the costs of the ongoing life imprisonment of Mr. Chan and Mr. Sukumaran should a transfer not be possible," Bishop wrote.
In a response dated Sunday, also seen by AP, Marsudi wrote that President Jokowi Widodo "is of the position that such an exchange cannot be undertaken."
Lawyers for the Australians have appealed to the High Administrative Court, which was scheduled to rule on the case Thursday. They argued that Widodo's refusal of clemency did not provide proper and individual consideration to their applications. A Jakarta court dismissed the appeal earlier, ruling that clemency is a prerogative of the president.
Bishop wrote that an inquiry into the alleged corruption of the Australians' trial judges was another legal avenue open to the pair.

"A Judicial Commission has invited Mr. Chan, Mr. Sukumaran and their original lawyer to make statements in a matter relating to alleged corruption of the trial judges," she wrote.
"These are serious allegations and I request that your government accord due legal process and institute a pause in the execution preparations until these two important processes have been completed," she added.
A senior Indonesian official on Tuesday warned Australia to tone down its criticism of the planned executions, saying Canberra should be grateful to Indonesia for keeping asylum seekers away from Australian shores.
The minister for political, legal and security affairs, Tedjo Edy Purdjianto, said at a seminar that if about 10,000 migrants who have been stopped in Indonesia from reaching Australia were allowed to proceed, "there will be a human tsunami in Australia."
Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott responded Wednesday by saying he isn't picking fights with anyone.
Chan and Sukumaran were flown last week from a prison on the resort island of Bali to the prison island where executions are carried out. The firing squads will execute the 10 simultaneously in pairs, so the execution date will not be set until all of them have exhausted legal appeals.
Chan and Sukumaran led an Australian smuggling group dubbed "the Bali Nine." They were arrested in 2005 after a tip-off from Australian police while trying to smuggle more than 8 kilograms (18 pounds) of heroin from Bali to Sydney. The rest were sentenced to prison terms.
Indonesia executed six drug convicts including foreigners in January, drawing protests from Brazil and the Netherlands, which withdrew their ambassadors after their citizens were denied clemency appeals. More than 130 people are on death row, including 57 drug convicts.
In another development, a district court in Tangerang, just west of the capital Jakarta, opened the case of judicial review by French national Serge Atlaoui on Wednesday. It adjourned the next hearing until March 25.
Mary Jane Fiesta Veloso, a Philippine national who is the only woman among the condemned inmates, is awaiting the ruling on her judicial review by the Supreme Court.
 

neddy

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Australian are so stupid. Use taxpayers monies to keep criminal alive.

Should dig into how it all started.
John Howard rat on the Bali 9 to the Indo police. This was the boo-boo that started this circus.

it is a matter of face and lawsuit.
 

johnny333

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In the old days you do the crime & you did the time or got executed.

Tony Abbot must be very free to politicised this execution issue. This has become very public & if the Indonesians gave way to the Australian pressure it would appear that they were giving up their sovereignty to other gov'ts.
 

Froggy

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What the fuck is taking the Indons so long just to shot two guys?
 

xpo2015

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Angmo is the best!! We Asians should be ashamed of ourselves for wanting them die early. Religious some more puki malu!
 

xpo2015

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do u base your view on wester idea or christianity idea?

angmo values are Christian values! they are ahead of their times!

they are superior than any Buddhshit and Islamutherfacker craps!

both stucked in middle aged centuries!
 

sirus

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Bali nine executions: Indonesian minister threatens to release 'human tsunami' of asylum seekers.

Indonesia could release 10,000 asylum seekers to Australia if Canberra continues to antagonise the republic over the execution of the Bali nine duo, an Indonesian minister has warned.

If Canberra keeps doing things that displease Indonesia, Jakarta will surely let the illegal immigrants go to Australia.

Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs, Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno
This would create a "human tsunami", according to the Coordinating Minister for Political, Legal and Security Affairs, Tedjo Edhy Purdijatno.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-nine-executions-indonesian-minister-threatens-to-release-human-tsunami-of-asylum-seekers-20150310-140dhn.html
 

sirus

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Bali Nine case adjourned until March 19: Australian media
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Family members of Australian death row prisoners Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran ride a boat to across a river separating Nusakambanga prison island, seen in the background, off central Java on March 11, 2015. -- PHOTO: AFP

JAKARTA (REUTERS) - The execution of 10 foreigners on death row in Indonesia for drug offences will be carried out together, the attorney general's office said on Thursday.

"Until today there has been no change of plans from the AGO that all execution will be all at once," the attorney general's spokesman Tony Spontana told reporters. "Executions will be done until everything is clear. Whether it will be in March or in April."

The group includes two Australian ctiizens, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran', whose clemency appeal was postponed until next Thursday because the president's lawyer arrived at Nusakambangan Island prison without signed legal authority, according to Australian media on Twitter.

Sukumaran and Chan, ringleaders of the so-called "Bali Nine" drug trafficking gang, were sentenced to death in 2006 for trying to smuggle heroin out of Indonesia.

They recently lost their appeals for presidential clemency, typically the final chance to avoid the firing squad, and have been moved to Nusakambangan prison island off Java, where their executions are due to take place.

Their lawyers have mounted a final legal challenge to Indonesian President Joko Widodo's decision to reject their pleas for clemency, claiming he failed to assess their rehabilitation or give reasons for his decision.

The appeal was due to be heard today.

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...ntil-19th-march-20150312#sthash.xYXwS1wQ.dpuf
 

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Indonesia rejects Australia's offer to pay for 2 death-row drug convicts' jail time
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Indonesia said on Thursday it had rejected an offer from Australia to pay the cost of life imprisonment for two convicted drug smugglers Myuran Sukumaran (left) and Andrew Chan, if they are spared the firing squad, as Jakarta signalled the executions might not take place for weeks. -- PHOTOS: EPA/AFP

JAKARTA (AFP) - Indonesia said on Thursday it had rejected an offer from Australia to pay the cost of life imprisonment for two drug smugglers if they are spared the firing squad, as Jakarta signalled the executions might not take place for weeks.

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop made the offer in a letter to her Indonesian counterpart Retno Marsudi as Canberra explores all avenues to convince Jakarta not to execute the Australians, Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran.

However, the Attorney-General's Office confirmed on Thursday they would stick to an initial plan of putting all the offenders to death at the same time, meaning the date might be pushed back for some time as the authorities wait for several to complete legal appeals.

Ms Bishop suggested a prisoner swop with Indonesia in a tense phone call with Ms Marsudi on March 3, which was rejected, and in a follow-up letter said Canberra was willing to pay for the pair's life imprisonment costs. "As discussed, the Australian government would be prepared to cover the costs of the ongoing life imprisonment of Mr Chan and Mr Sukumaran should a transfer not be possible," Ms Bishop wrote in the letter, released by her department. "The vast majority of Australians very strongly support the government's efforts to seek clemency for Mr Chan and Mr Sukumaran."

- See more at: http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...th-row-drug-convicts-jai#sthash.GcX9HgIy.dpuf
 
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