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Men vs Tanks!! Siok!!

xpo2015

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How to ambush a Panzer! You may need this skill one day!

Tank blows up like Mount Vernon crematorium when kena hit by RPG.

[video=youtube;cBnOi2-7QyI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBnOi2-7QyI[/video]
 

Papsmearer

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How to ambush a Panzer! You may need this skill one day!

Tank blows up like Mount Vernon crematorium when kena hit by RPG.

[video=youtube;cBnOi2-7QyI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBnOi2-7QyI[/video]

Hit by RPG-29 from the top into the engine deck. Tandem head charge, no chance for the T-72. They have a propensity to cook off the ammo when hit anyway. At least one crew got out from the escape hatch. Not sure if he will survive.
 

xpo2015

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Just imagine all the air kena sucked out of the cabin.

Those who were inside sure kena choked to death instantly.
 

tanwahtiu

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Obsolete war equipment.

That is why I said angmoh technology and equipment are unsustainable. Believe in angmoh technology for war and earn a living you have to be their slaves to their idiotic rubbish cut and paste technologies.

Why don't angmoh uses virus warfare to wipe out a nation like they tried on the Chinese back in 1800s spread their chicken pox 百花 and STD viruses?




How to ambush a Panzer! You may need this skill one day!

Tank blows up like Mount Vernon crematorium when kena hit by RPG.

[video=youtube;cBnOi2-7QyI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBnOi2-7QyI[/video]
 

sleaguepunter

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look like syrian army are poorly trained and poorly led. MBTs in built up area without infantry support is suicidal. make worse by being in stationery position for so long. didnt chechnya conflict show the world how useless russian mbt are in street fighting. T72 not exactly a credible mbt anymore.
 

Devil Within

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The future is unmanned ground combat vehicle.

[video=youtube;VTTO6ZkuLzQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTTO6ZkuLzQ[/video]
 

Papsmearer

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look like syrian army are poorly trained and poorly led. MBTs in built up area without infantry support is suicidal. make worse by being in stationery position for so long. didnt chechnya conflict show the world how useless russian mbt are in street fighting. T72 not exactly a credible mbt anymore.

I have to say that based on this video, the Syrian armour corp is sadly lacking. But I am not sure the SAF would have done any better. The reason why they would not have an infantry squad deployed with the tanks is that they would lose half the squad to snipers. You can see a BMP 2 escorting some T-72s around, but never dismounting their AI. The ISraelis are the same too. Their AI will not come out of the APCs, nor seldom do you see infantry on foot around the tanks. Too vulnerable to snipers, booby traps, IEDs, etc.

In this particular scene where the tank was hit, all 3 tanks had their turrets pointing the same way and no tank saw where the shot came from. Hence, no round was fired at the roof where the RPG team was. In fact, the RPG team could have gotten 2 more shots off because the tanks were just milling around, not even looking for a shooter.

There is a role for MBTs in FIBUA. Every significant battle since WW2 has had armour in build up area. eg. Stalingrad, Berlin, Bulge, etc. Even the jungle fighters Vietcong captured Saigon with an armour force of T-55/54. But the tactics employed by the Syrian army are different from the US Army. The US army would have put drones in the air, and snipers on over watch. The minute the RPG team showed up the roof top, either snipers would have spotted them or drones would. That RPG team would have been either mortared or snipered at to prevent them from even taking a shot. The terrain is similar to many small malaysian towns like Ipoh and even parts of JB. Namely, low rise apartment buildings with narrow streets.

Unfortunately, SAF armour doctrine is not designed for FIBUA. Not sure what its designed for anymore. Maybe for show.
 

sleaguepunter

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armour can only be use as supporting fire platform in built up area, it will be infantry scouting the front while the mbt backing them up. both the infantry and mbt must work as a team. anyway, Stalingrad was won by the determination of the soviet riflemen. In street fighting, commanders must have the stomach to throw men into the meat grinder for victory and every inch of ground gain will be pay in blood. There no point sending armour into built up area just to attack, even the fighters withdraw, the armour cannot hold the ground without infantry. so it a LPPL situation. The syrian commander of that particular sector should be shot for wasting his men and equipment for no purpose at all.

the fighters also not coordinated, instead of wasting manpower on handycams, they should have more than one rpg team to attack that mbt platoon simultaneously and have riflemen nearby to capture the DShK 12.7mm HMG mounted on the turret. That will be a good addition to the arsenal.
 

Papsmearer

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armour can only be use as supporting fire platform in built up area, it will be infantry scouting the front while the mbt backing them up. both the infantry and mbt must work as a team. anyway, Stalingrad was won by the determination of the soviet riflemen. In street fighting, commanders must have the stomach to throw men into the meat grinder for victory and every inch of ground gain will be pay in blood. There no point sending armour into built up area just to attack, even the fighters withdraw, the armour cannot hold the ground without infantry. so it a LPPL situation. The syrian commander of that particular sector should be shot for wasting his men and equipment for no purpose at all.

the fighters also not coordinated, instead of wasting manpower on handycams, they should have more than one rpg team to attack that mbt platoon simultaneously and have riflemen nearby to capture the DShK 12.7mm HMG mounted on the turret. That will be a good addition to the arsenal.

It does not happen this way, as I have said the IDF found it out as a hard lesson. The minute you move foot infantry into BUA to back up tanks or dismount AI to support them, they will suffer casualties and it will turn into a rescue operation quickly. The way I see it, there is no objective that I can see. The tanks and APC seem to be randomly driving around. There has to be an objective, either to capture a strong point or support an attack but I could not see it from the movement of this unit.

As i have said, the IDF will fly drones and post snipers to look out for these anti tank teams on the roof top. You can see from the video that someone fires an RPG-7 from indoor and you can see the amount of smoke and back blast it gives. That is why they always prefer to be in the open when they fire an anti tank weapon. If it was an IDF column that got hit this way, the building where the shot came from would have been rapidly attacked. The Merk would whack a hole in the ground floor wall with its 120mm cannon, and an Achzarit or Namer APC would back up to the hole and unload its AI section directly into the building to hunt the anti tank team.
 

Reddog

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I have to say that based on this video, the Syrian armour corp is sadly lacking. But I am not sure the SAF would have done any better. The reason why they would not have an infantry squad deployed with the tanks is that they would lose half the squad to snipers. You can see a BMP 2 escorting some T-72s around, but never dismounting their AI. The ISraelis are the same too. Their AI will not come out of the APCs, nor seldom do you see infantry on foot around the tanks. Too vulnerable to snipers, booby traps, IEDs, etc.

In this particular scene where the tank was hit, all 3 tanks had their turrets pointing the same way and no tank saw where the shot came from. Hence, no round was fired at the roof where the RPG team was. In fact, the RPG team could have gotten 2 more shots off because the tanks were just milling around, not even looking for a shooter.

There is a role for MBTs in FIBUA. Every significant battle since WW2 has had armour in build up area. eg. Stalingrad, Berlin, Bulge, etc. Even the jungle fighters Vietcong captured Saigon with an armour force of T-55/54. But the tactics employed by the Syrian army are different from the US Army. The US army would have put drones in the air, and snipers on over watch. The minute the RPG team showed up the roof top, either snipers would have spotted them or drones would. That RPG team would have been either mortared or snipered at to prevent them from even taking a shot. The terrain is similar to many small malaysian towns like Ipoh and even parts of JB. Namely, low rise apartment buildings with narrow streets.

Unfortunately, SAF armour doctrine is not designed for FIBUA. Not sure what its designed for anymore. Maybe for show.

Hi Papsmear, Once Armour, Always Armour ???
 
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