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Staunch PAP porlumpar got a rude shock

dr.wailing

Alfrescian
Loyal
Francis Cheng, a frequent contributor to The Straits Times' Forum page, has had a rude shock when he tried to apply for a health assistance scheme.

He is both shocked and hurt that being a PAP sicko-fan (read: sycophant) does not translate into real benefits for him and his family.

Below is his letter published on page A20 of said newspaper of February 23, 2015:

Chas criteria not clearly explained

When I first picked up my Community Health Assist Scheme (Chas) application form at Tampines Polyclinic last year, following my retirement last October, a nurse there assured me that there was no means testing involved to see whether I qualified for the scheme.

However, I recently received a rejection letter saying that my family did not qualify for Chas.

It defined the qualification criteria as either households with a monthly income of $1,800 and below, or an annual home value of below $21,000 without income. We were rejected as we surpassed the monthly household income threshold.

I called Chas and was surprised to learn that the formula used is based on the "past 12 months" of annual income - of my spouse and myself - divided by 12 months to get the average, which is then divided by the number of people living at the same address.

I am a retiree without any income, while my spouse's gross annual salary is less than $25,000, which means that the household monthly income for the three members in my family, including a son who is a student, is about $694.

But we did not qualify for the scheme as my salary over the past 12 months, together with my wife's pay, had exceeded $1,800 a month.

This raises a few questions.

First, nowhere in the application form does it state that the "gross annual salary" figure is based on the past 12 months of income earned by those living at the same address.

Chas should print this in bold on the forms so that people will not waste their time applying.

Second, what are the reasons behind this formula?

Does it imply that those who have been retired for less than 12 months are able to support themselves financially using the past months' income? Does it mean that retirees should apply only a year later?

Chas could have done better in explaining its qualification criteria.

I was told that I could file an appeal but what would be the point, if the strict condition of using the past 12 months of income remained?

Many retirees are often on a tight budget and their savings alone are not enough to cover the high cost of living.

Francis Cheng
 

halsey02

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Three years back, I had to pay a visit to a relative warded at TTSH for around 50 days. Every time I go there, there was this CHAS counter manned by a woman...to cut the story short....I was wondering how come such a lovely scheme, no body bat an eye on the counter, so curiosity got over me, I took a brochure home & digested the information. The scheme sounded so good, but my family straightway from the calculation, am disqualified....CHAS is just another "pull wool" over the DAFT Singaporeans...

On a regular basis I helped this relative to top up medicine from the hospital pharmacy, (for that person, is not so mobile) for some months I have not been doing this. Recently, after the PIONEER card thingy was introduced, I went to the pharmacy, the same drugs bought had been, classified into three categories:

1. Standard Medicine
a. b. c. .....etc a sub total

2. Non-Standard Medicine
a.b.c....etc subtotal

3. Others
a.b.c. etc subtotal

In the past, before the PIONEER card was introduced, the drugs were all in one bill, subtotal & then deducted medisave if any, balance pay cash. This time, the medicines were bought by cash....I forgot to ask the cashier, for I was expecting the usual simple receipt, which was a small in size, now the receipt is printed on an A4 size paper...

But I noticed, under non-standard medicine there was no subsidy...the question is, that means we can only use our medisave to pay for STANDARD medicine? non-standard plus others , we have to pay full cash?

Anything that the MIW give you...you must be a stupid SINGaporeans to believe everything they promise....:rolleyes:
 

Froggy

Alfrescian (InfP) + Mod
Moderator
Generous Asset
Even our boss Sam come to Bangkok for cheaper but VVIP medical service this Francis prick is daft or what?
 

halsey02

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Even our boss Sam come to Bangkok for cheaper but VVIP medical service this Francis prick is daft or what?

Sad to say, this is the 21st century, we still have daft SINgaporeans, who will believe anything the MIW throw at them...
 

johnny333

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Sad to say, this is the 21st century, we still have daft SINgaporeans, who will believe anything the MIW throw at them...


It will be interesting to see whether the 60% still believes in the PAP after the next GE:confused:
Especially those who find that they can't touch their CPF even though they reach 55+.
 

halsey02

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Well said.

For many of us, who were born here, gone through schools here, did our National Service, work through the years...we can call our ourselves BUMPIPUTRAS...son's & daughter's of the land of SINGAPORE...PAP fart, we should know, they are up to something..
 

Force 136

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Many midle aged women are still supporting PAP because they are drawing a good salary and hubby takes care of car expenses etc.....

No worries for them at all

No rude shocks yet, till they retire ..... or when their kids migrate with no intentions of returning.....
 

sleaguepunter

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
In the past, before the PIONEER card was introduced, the drugs were all in one bill, subtotal & then deducted medisave if any, balance pay cash. This time, the medicines were bought by cash....I forgot to ask the cashier, for I was expecting the usual simple receipt, which was a small in size, now the receipt is printed on an A4 size paper...

But I noticed, under non-standard medicine there was no subsidy...the question is, that means we can only use our medisave to pay for STANDARD medicine? non-standard plus others , we have to pay full cash?

Anything that the MIW give you...you must be a stupid SINGaporeans to believe everything they promise....:rolleyes:

can use medisave for standard medicine meh? I tot standard medicine mean there are govt subsidies for it while u still pay cash/nets/credit card for it. NON Standard med can be very expensive, your relative should ask the doctor for standard medicine alternative. there maybe a cheaper alternative instead of the expensive med. being a subsidised patient, every consultation will be different specialists so they normally used the same prescription, just tell the doc he/her cannot afford and they will then try to find another cheaper alternative.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
Especially those who find that they can't touch their CPF even though they reach 55+.

That's fallacy. CPF can be withdrawn at 55. The policy has never changed.

I withdrew more than $500,000 when I reached 55.
 
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