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dr.wailing

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The collagen that I am referring to is hydrolyzed. In other words the molecules are smaller than ordinary collagen. It is 3,000 daltons compared to normal collagen which 45,000 daltons . The smaller size means that it is more absorbable by the body.
My dear boy, may I suggest you read up on what human digestion is, focusing on what happens to the food that goes into the human alimentary canal, what happens to it in the stomach, etc...before you tell me about how hydrolyzed collagen of 3,000 daltons are more easily absorbed by the human body.
 

dr.wailing

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I suggest all of you give stem cell nutrition a go. The adult stem cells from your own body to help you heal and renew yourself.
Stem cell nutrition is quack, not backed up by serious scientific research.

Suppose stem cell nutrition worked. You do know the consequences of stem cells that became "pumped up" with nutrients??

Excuse me, I need to go for nutrition now (=dinner at one of my African-Americans' home)
 

Jah_rastafar_I

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Johnny I remember your posts In the past about I think heart disease etc are you better now? btw
do you still purchase these health products like vitamins, pills etc? maybe you might be over doing it
 

johnny333

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Your above reply shows you're confused about what it is exactly that allegedly alleviates your painful shoulder.

In posts #1 and 10, you didn't mention that your collagen supplement contained other products such as glucosamine, chondroitin and hya. acid.

Before you attribute the efficacy of collagen in treating your painful shoulder and recommend it to us on this forum, you should eliminate the effects of glucosamine et. al.

What's the name of the product that you claimed worked wonders for you? (Web links to the product will do too.)

Who's the manufacturer? What's its website address?


Didn't you read & watch the videos I posted:confused: Why should I spoon feed anyone:confused: I have included some of the URLs, people can do their own searches.

I bought & started using 2 products by Neocell . There are many companies selling hydrolyzed collagen. Before I decide to anything I will read the feedback of other users at www.iHerb.com For the most part the reviews were positive. Look at the number of collagen products they carry http://www.iherb.com/search?kw=collagen#p=1

Neocell's web site is at http://www.neocell.com/

After visiting their website I googled & youtubed "collagen"

I'm just an end user. I don't make a cent if others decide to use these products. I've tried massage & exercise with limited success. With natural supplements there are many variables determining the effectiveness of a product. So people have to be patient because it might take 1 to 3 months but I'm writing this positive feedback because it helped with my pain in less than a month
 

johnny333

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Johnny I remember your posts In the past about I think heart disease etc are you better now? btw
do you still purchase these health products like vitamins, pills etc? maybe you might be over doing it


I'm a heavy user of supplements & from my experience I can tell you that they work. At my age & as a heart attack survivor I am NOT taking any medical prescriptions of any kind.

Nowadays I am juicing, taking spirulina, chlorella, multi vitamins which are from food sources e.g. Garden of Life. FYI Garden of Life is sold at Nature's Glory where many people with health problems go for their organic produce. The shipment of Australian Kale, Swiss Chard, beet root, apples,....come in on Wednesdays.

You might ask LKY if he is over doing it:biggrin: For me I have $X budgeted for supplementation. I may change the mix of the supplements but the amount I spend remains about the same.

In my opinion the worst mistake people can make is not to invest in their own health. At the minimum everyone should be taking multivitamins
 

johnny333

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As a consumer the rule "caveat emptor" still applies. That is why I avoid supplements carried by Unity(NTUC):biggrin:

Many of the products they carry are quite commercialised. Cheap & inferior products. Especially those products from big pharma. They have some synthetic ingredients.
I'm surprised about GNC their products are usually good but overpriced because they have to pay rent for their prime locations

I get all my products from iHerb because they have the good brands & their stock is fresh.



just beware of the health supplement fraud that is prevalent in the u.s. federal and state attorneys have started to uncover the massive herbal supplement fraud. they will uncover more, especially with other supplements: vitamin, protein, etc.

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=0110008DVZ2E#

Herbal Supplement Scandal: Many Contain No Herbs

New York's attorney general told four major retailers to stop selling some of their store-brand herbal supplements, saying they contained ingredients not listed on their labels and could expose some consumers to serious health risks.

Atty. Gen. Eric T. Schneiderman said Tuesday that many of the supplements sold in New York state by GNC, Target, Wal-Mart and Walgreens also didn't contain the ingredients they claimed to.

The attorney general said 79% of products tested had no DNA of the plants listed on the labels or were contaminated by other material including rice, beans, pine and wheat.

In letters to the retailers, Schneiderman demanded that they stop selling certain products, which include echinacea, ginseng and St. John's wort formulas. He also requested an explanation of quality control measures in place, as well as information regarding the production, processing and testing of herbal supplements sold at the stores.

"This investigation makes one thing abundantly clear: The old adage 'buyer beware' may be especially true for consumers of herbal supplements," Schneiderman said in a statement. "Mislabeling, contamination, and false advertising are illegal."

The attorney general's office said that because many of the products allegedly failed to identify all ingredients, consumers with allergies, or those taking medication, can expose themselves to serious health risks.

The attorney general's office said it hired a DNA bar-coding technology expert to conduct the tests as part of a continuing investigation. Products tested were GNC's Herbal Plus brand, Target's Up & Up, Walgreen's Finest Nutrition and Wal-Mart's Spring Valley.

The Council for Responsible Nutrition, a dietary supplement trade group, criticized the testing method employed and said that manufacturing of the supplements can remove or damage DNA.

The actions by the New York state attorney general's office "smack of a self-serving publicity stunt under the guise of protecting public health," the group's president, Steve Mister, said in a statement.

Wal-Mart did not respond to a request for comment. Target and Walgreens said they would cooperate with the attorney general and were removing the requested products from stores while they investigate the claims further.

GNC took issue with the testing method, saying in a statement that it stands "behind the quality, purity and potency of all ingredients listed on the labels of our private label products, including our GNC Herbal Plus line of products." However, it said it would remove the requested products from New York stores "if required by law."
 

johnny333

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1. Research and know that our body structure is capable of living hundreds of years but our body cell purposely dies just to fulfill our "Wish" or Desire to be
old and dying. Your age only exists within your mind !

2. Rid yourselves of the toxic rats poison in your water and toothpaste. FYI your regular water filter system doesn't clean it. So whatever "Healthy" food you eat + rat poison is not gonna help.



Spore's water system has chlorine & fluoride which are both suspected carcinogens

Filtering out the chlorine is simple. Just get a filtering system which has a carbon filter. I notice that Hyflux is now selling a 3 stage water filtration systems. Warning to users NOT to get the system because it does NOT filter out fluoride. I read the specs & was surprise that for a Spore company they did not include a stage to filer out fluoride:eek:

The only way to filter out fluroide is with a water filtration that includes a stage with active alumina or bone char carbon. You need to replace the active alumina/bone char stage every year.

Can also filter fluoride with either a Reverse Osmosis system & or distillation.

If you are looking for a system, there is a local company in Spore located in Katong which sells the Chanson C3 3 stage water filter system which looks like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Chanson-C3-Co...93325&sr=8-10&keywords=chanson+ionizers+water
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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Johnny333

borax can chelate fluoride out of body leh...............some people add borax to their water before drinking.........they say the aluminium filters may not be safe leh..............
 

johnny333

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Johnny333

borax can chelate fluoride out of body leh...............some people add borax to their water before drinking.........they say the aluminium filters may not be safe leh..............



I think it is better to drink clean water than to clear the fluoride from the body. As to the safety of active alumina you can read http://www.purewaterproducts.com/articles/activated-alumina and decide for yourself. Active alumina is not aluminum which is bad for health. If you have any concerns about active alumina, you can look at a Bone Char filter instead.


Can get bone char from places like ebay:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...TRC1.A0.H0.Xbone+char&_nkw=bone+char&_sacat=0

Or you can get an RO system. The problem with RO systems is that it creates waste water & you have to add in the lost minerals.
 

adultstem

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Stem cell nutrition is quack, not backed up by serious scientific research.

Suppose stem cell nutrition worked. (=dinner at one of my African-Americans' home)

Stem cell medicine is a new science in medicine. The acceptance is slow but surely changing the medical landscape. Many difficult to treat and chronic diseases are treated with stem cell therapy. The results are nothing short of phenomenal and really amazing to say the least.

Stem cell nutrition is another new category. Yes stem cell nutrition has worked for many people. I post below a couple amazing recovery stories for heart diseased patients just be taking stem cell nutrition.


Heart Attack – Johan Pienaar (50+ yrs)

Six years ago I had my first heart attack, due to a restriction in one of the arteries of my heart. A “stent” was inserted to widen the artery, and I started taking prescription medication daily. My health improved considerably, until April 2007, when I had 6 heart attacks within 3 days.

The angiogram showed that the network of arteries on the right side of my heart were practically 100% dysfunctional, while those on the left side were 40% dysfunctional. I couldn’t walk more than 2 paces without cardiac pain; even breathing a sigh caused pain. The cardiologist told me that he couldn’t perform a bypass operation on me, because the arteries were “dead”. I had no hope on recovery.

During my 5 weeks’ stay in the hospital ICU, a friend came to see me, and told me about Stem Enhance. Desperately, I decided to try it, taking 2 capsules 3 times per day.
Three weeks after leaving hospital I started to notice a change. I could walk short distances again. I was still on my normal heart medication, and was still eating my normal healthy diet, as I have always tried to do. My only lifestyle change was that I had started taking StemEnhance.

It is now almost a year later. My health has steadily improved, and today I am able to lead a completely normal and active life. I mow my own lawn, I have already walked as much as 3 kilometers without pain, I sleep well, and I find that I have greater clarity of thinking than before. I also perceive my flesh to be firmer than it used to be. I ask myself: If nothing in my lifestyle has changed, except taking Stem Enhance, what could have caused my recovery?

Johan felt a change after three weeks and after two months doctors could observe a change. When Johan wanted to have some teeth extracted, pathologists returned twice to enquire about the medication he is taking because of his red blood cell count being three times higher than normal. His EF count in the tissues was 75, while 50 is normal and the count in someone who is ill can be as low as 12.


HEART ATTACK VICTIM – Also, it was wonderful to hear Max’s heart attack testimony on the Monday night call. He had a massive heart attack on Jan. 04. He had open-heart surgery, 4 by passes, reconstructed 2 valves, pacemaker. He was put on 11 medications. In April he found out about the Stem Enhance and started taking it. Soon he could get up and down better. He was color blind, but now sees colors. He no longer has a heart murmur. He said that he has a better quality of life now. He takes 6 SE’s a day and has been doing that for the last 2 months. He said it has made such a difference in the way he feels and his energy level. The more stem cells we have in circulation, the more healing can take place inside our bodies.


What is StemEnhance?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_TimbOBHN0&feature=related
 

GOD IS MY DOG

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johnny333

read reviews that Neocell type 1&3 collagen helped improve people's joints but type 2 is more for joints..........what you think ? also can't find Neocell type 2 collagen at iherb..............other brands come in pill form so more expensive.

also from that Bio-Sil video, the doc say taking collagen won't get your cells to make collagen but Bio-Sil will get cells to make collagen..............

and then I found pre-digested collagen...........
http://www.iherb.com/Twinlab-LPP-Hydrolyzed-Collagen-Protein-Regular-16-fl-oz-474-ml/8314


which one should I get ah ?
 

johnny333

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johnny333

read reviews that Neocell type 1&3 collagen helped improve people's joints but type 2 is more for joints..........what you think ? also can't find Neocell type 2 collagen at iherb..............other brands come in pill form so more expensive.

also from that Bio-Sil video, the doc say taking collagen won't get your cells to make collagen but Bio-Sil will get cells to make collagen..............

and then I found pre-digested collagen...........
http://www.iherb.com/Twinlab-LPP-Hydrolyzed-Collagen-Protein-Regular-16-fl-oz-474-ml/8314


which one should I get ah ?


With this type of supplements it's a tough question to answer because reading through the reviews some people don't feel any affects, some get pimples, some have great results, some who used Neocell AND Bio-Sil report better results,.... Some report seeing the affects as soon as a weeks, others in months:confused:

That's why I got a few products to try out. If were to pick one to try out it would be the Bio-Sil liquid which should be more bio available because it is in liquid form:confused: It is also the easiest to consume as you don't need to take it on an empty stomach just have it with juice. It is also a vegetarian product.

http://www.amazon.com/Biosil-Advanc...ie=UTF8&qid=1423422161&sr=1-2&keywords=biosil

An advantage of the liquid form is that you have better control on the number of drops you take. You can start slower until you are sure there are no adverse effects. A suggestion from one of the reviewers is " First, make sure you are getting good protein from a healthy diet. Second, make sure you are getting healthy fats like fish oils, fruit oils (avocado) or seed oils (chia, flax, etc)" So diet is also a factor in the effectiveness of the supplement & may explain why some people see varying effects.
 

nirvarq

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Spore's water system has chlorine & fluoride which are both suspected carcinogens

Filtering out the chlorine is simple. Just get a filtering system which has a carbon filter. I notice that Hyflux is now selling a 3 stage water filtration systems. Warning to users NOT to get the system because it does NOT filter out fluoride. I read the specs & was surprise that for a Spore company they did not include a stage to filer out fluoride:eek:

The only way to filter out fluroide is with a water filtration that includes a stage with active alumina or bone char carbon. You need to replace the active alumina/bone char stage every year.

Can also filter fluoride with either a Reverse Osmosis system & or distillation.

If you are looking for a system, there is a local company in Spore located in Katong which sells the Chanson C3 3 stage water filter system which looks like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Chanson-C3-Co...93325&sr=8-10&keywords=chanson+ionizers+water



Yes it does ! :smile:

The Chanson Water C3 Pre-Filter is the ultimate in water filtration technology. Harmful contaminants such as fluoride, chlorine, lead, arsenic, sulfur, pesticides and nitrate can cause sickness and health problems over years of ingestion. The C3 Pre-Filter is designed to put forth water that removes harmful contaminants without removing healthy minerals and other important properties from the water.
 

tonychat

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Yes it does ! :smile:

The Chanson Water C3 Pre-Filter is the ultimate in water filtration technology. Harmful contaminants such as fluoride, chlorine, lead, arsenic, sulfur, pesticides and nitrate can cause sickness and health problems over years of ingestion. The C3 Pre-Filter is designed to put forth water that removes harmful contaminants without removing healthy minerals and other important properties from the water.

where to get this filter system?
 

adultstem

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johnny333

read reviews that Neocell type 1&3 collagen helped improve people's joints but type 2 is more for joints..........what you think ? also can't find Neocell type 2 collagen at iherb..............other brands come in pill form so more expensive.

also from that Bio-Sil video, the doc say taking collagen won't get your cells to make collagen but Bio-Sil will get cells to make collagen..............

and then I found pre-digested collagen...........
http://www.iherb.com/Twinlab-LPP-Hydrolyzed-Collagen-Protein-Regular-16-fl-oz-474-ml/8314


which one should I get ah ?

Hi bro, why waste time with collagen or Bio-Sil? Get a new knee replacement for your old damaged knees. How? Stem cells! Only stem cells can make new cartilage, etc...


Bad Knees and Improved Memory

A friend of mine in his early 60s has had bad knees, bone on bone – no cartilage left. It was hereditary. His father almost couldn’t walk when he was in his 50s because of the problem. This friend is an engineer and works in a manufacturing plant. His office is on the second floor in the shop. His knees were getting worse and worse as he got older, and he was having great difficulty climbing the stairs to get to his second floor office. He was at the point of asking his manager for an office on the first floor because he couldn’t take the discomfort of climbing those stairs any longer. He found out about Stem Enhance and started taking the product. Within three to four weeks his knees were 100% fine. Now, just for fun, he takes two steps at a time and tries to see just how fast he can get to his second floor office. He also told me that his memory has improved tremendously since he started taking the product. R. S.
 
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