Suffering from joint pain, thinning hair,wrinkles, weak nails?

johnny333 · Feb 4, 2015

I was suffering from an aching shoulder. When I moved the arm I would hear a creeking sound, It would also hurt a dull pain. I took serrapeptase & fish oil & it helped. I then read about something called Collagen. There is Type 2 Collagen which more for joint lubrication.

Type 1 & 3 Collagen which is for skin, hair, muscle tendons, ligaments, & bone but I think there is some overlap between the various Collagens.

After watching the following video about the product I decided to try a few of these products.

[video=youtube;DR5L2XXyynQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR5L2XXyynQ[/video]

Well I bought 3 of these products:
1 Neocell, Collagen Joint Complex Containing HA, Type 2, 120 Capsules http://www.iherb.com/Neocell-Collag...sc=0&lc=en-US&w=collagen&rc=663&sr=null&ic=58
2 Neocell, Super Collagen+C, Type 1 & 3, 250 Tablets http://www.iherb.com/Neocell-Super-...isc=0&lc=en-US&w=collagen&rc=663&sr=null&ic=2
3 Natural Factors, BioSil, ch-OSA Advanced Collagen Generator, 1 fl oz (30 ml) http://www.iherb.com/Natural-Factor...sc=0&lc=en-US&w=collagen&rc=663&sr=null&ic=54

I got it to improve my joint lubrication which the Type 2 seems to do. I remember some people were asking for recommendations for thinning hair. This might be the product you are looking for.

tonychat · Feb 4, 2015

based on your post about your joint pain..i can confirm that you still eat meat and diary and lack of exercise.

looneytan · Feb 4, 2015

tonychat said:
based on your post about your joint pain..i can confirm that you still eat meat and diary and lack of exercise.

only fucktard spasgot magtic jui hoo stoopig choa chee buy mudder fugger eat grass!

johnny333 · Feb 4, 2015

Here is a video explaining some of the science behind Biosil

[video=youtube;yQQGV2bMAcw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQQGV2bMAcw[/video]

laksaboy · Feb 4, 2015

If you want to ingest collagen, eat pig trotters and pig skin. Go to your nearest kway chap stall now.

P.S: Tonychat is right about dairy. Cut down on its intake. Don't even bother with the healthier varieties e.g. yogurt.

johnny333 · Feb 4, 2015

tonychat said:
based on your post about your joint pain..i can confirm that you still eat meat and diary and lack of exercise.

I am getting old:(
Collagen is not only about vanity e.g. targetting firmer & prettier skin, hair,... As I get older one thing I've noticed that I easily get cuts on my skin. Using collagen supplements will I hope help to thicken my skin.
Most of the collagen products from Neocell include bovine or fish protein. I think it makes the product more effective :confused:

Biosil is vegetarian but I don't know how effective it is compared to the Neocell products. That is why I am trying them both.

I'm also concerned about the health of my blood vessels. I read that the founder of Neocell started looking into collagen after he had a heart attack. So collagen is also required for inner health.

Ambulance · Feb 4, 2015

halo yoghurt jiak liang leh

laksaboy said:
P.S: Tonychat is right about dairy. Cut down on its intake. Don't even bother with the healthier varieties e.g. yogurt.

laksaboy · Feb 4, 2015

Ambulance said:
halo yoghurt jiak liang leh

halo ai jiak liang jiak guilinggao. yoghurt si ah neh zi giam yong eh.

GOD IS MY DOG · Feb 5, 2015

Johnny333

joint problems could be due to wearing off of the cartilage, ligament or tendon............so Type 2 collagen or Type 1 leh ?

my mom's already taking hyaluronic acid..........along with vit D3, blackstrap molasses, apple cider vinegar, raw honey, astaxanthin, iodine, selenium

johnny333 · Feb 5, 2015

GOD IS MY DOG said:
Johnny333

joint problems could be due to wearing off of the cartilage, ligament or tendon............so Type 2 collagen or Type 1 leh ?

my mom's already taking hyaluronic acid..........along with vit D3, blackstrap molasses, apple cider vinegar, raw honey, astaxanthin, iodine, selenium

It's only been a couple of days since I've started taking Type 2 Collagen & it's helped with the pain. It's cheaper than Serrepaptase, however I am still continuing with Serrapaptase because for me it helps to clear excess fluids from my lungs. More important is that it's suppose to break down plaque in the blood stream.

The Neocell Type 2 product utilises chicken protein while the Type 1 & 3 product uses beef protein. They have another product which uses fish protein. I don't know why they have so many different products :confused:

It may be that different people respond differently to the products?

I'm taking the shotgun approach :smile:

I'm using the Type 2 product in the morning with my juices because it needs Vitamin C to be effective.
In the evening I take the type 1 & 3 product which only requires that it be taken on an empty stomach.

FYI. Nutrex has a product which provides 12gms of Astaxanthin http://www.iherb.com/Nutrex-BioAsti...1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=nutrex&rc=39&sr=null&ic=2
Some people don't feel the benefits of astaxanthin unless they take the higher does.

I'm moving towards food based nutriition. That is why I'm now regularly taking Spirulina & chlorella. In the past I would only take it periodically to detox. They are foods that provide lots of necessary things for good health e,g,iodine, protein,Vitamin B, selenium...

dr.wailing · Feb 5, 2015

To johnny333

Before you take any health supplements, please check with your medical doctor on whether you need them.

An example: if you'd checked with your medical doctor, you'd have been told that buying and eating collagen supplements is a waste of money and effort.

johnny333 · Feb 5, 2015

PinkShirtNoHeart said:
To johnny333

Before you take any health supplements, please check with your medical doctor on whether you need them.

An example: if you'd checked with your medical doctor, you'd have been told that buying and eating collagen supplements is a waste of money and effort.

The collagen product I am taking has helped with my painful shoulder. So I would have to disagree that they are a waste of money. It is made up of various ingredient that is beneficial for joint pains : collagen, glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid. Don't know if it is the collagen but the important thing for me is that it has relieved the pain

I can't comment about all the other aspects e.g. better skin, reduce wrinles,... because I have only started taking it for a week.

As with all supplements it is difficult to determine effectiveness because of so many confounding variables: age, sex, health conditions. There are also different brands & some may be more effective than others for some people & not for others.

For those with thinning hair it is I think worth a try because there are no medical solutions other than propecia which hasn't got a good record & costs more.

GOD IS MY DOG · Feb 5, 2015

johnny333 said:
It's only been a couple of days since I've started taking Type 2 Collagen & it's helped with the pain. It's cheaper than Serrepaptase, however I am still continuing with Serrapaptase because for me it helps to clear excess fluids from my lungs. More important is that it's suppose to break down plaque in the blood stream.

The Neocell Type 2 product utilises chicken protein while the Type 1 & 3 product uses beef protein. They have another product which uses fish protein. I don't know why they have so many different products
It may be that different people respond differently to the products?

I'm taking the shotgun approach
I'm using the Type 2 product in the morning with my juices because it needs Vitamin C to be effective.
In the evening I take the type 1 & 3 product which only requires that it be taken on an empty stomach.

FYI. Nutrex has a product which provides 12gms of Astaxanthin http://www.iherb.com/Nutrex-BioAsti...1&disc=0&lc=en-US&w=nutrex&rc=39&sr=null&ic=2
Some people don't feel the benefits of astaxanthin unless they take the higher does.

I'm moving towards food based nutriition. That is why I'm now regularly taking Spirulina & chlorella. In the past I would only take it periodically to detox. They are foods that provide lots of necessary things for good health e,g,iodine, protein,Vitamin B, selenium...

my mom taking the Nutrex brand too........so you recommend type 2 collagen ?

I'm thinking of adding boron..............she's also on MSM

johnny333 · Feb 5, 2015

GOD IS MY DOG said:
my mom taking the Nutrex brand too........so you recommend type 2 collagen ?

I'm thinking of adding boron..............she's also on MSM

According to a video by Neo Cell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjb6KUCLMk

Type 1 & 3 is for
Beauty: skin, hair nails
Joints: ligaments, tendon, bone

Type 2 is for
joints: For cartilage only

Symptoms that type 2 can help with are
popping knees
bad back
clicking jaw

johnny333 · Feb 6, 2015

PinkShirtNoHeart said:
To johnny333

Before you take any health supplements, please check with your medical doctor on whether you need them.

An example: if you'd checked with your medical doctor, you'd have been told that buying and eating collagen supplements is a waste of money and effort.

Dr Tim Oshea an American doctor does does not agree that it is a "waste of money". He has seen the health benefits of hydrolyzed collagen in his patients. The collagen that I am referring to is hydrolyzed. In other words the molecules are smaller than ordinary collagen. It is 3,000 daltons compared to normal collagen which 45,000 daltons . The smaller size means that it is more absorbable by the body.

Some of the benefits he's seen in his patients:
osteoporosis
arthritis
breathing problems
heart problems
prostate problems
circulatory problems
improvement to muscles
arterial strengthening
increase in energy
improvement to kidney
improvement in high blood pressure
herniated disk

Go take a look at the video:

[video=youtube;VfR1s3H3Gko]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfR1s3H3Gko[/video]

jw5 · Feb 6, 2015

johnny333, what you need is a woman who soothes you and piques your interest. :wink:

Suddenly you will find that your hair becomes thicker and the nails stronger and longer. And not just the hair and nails. :biggrin:

adultstem · Feb 6, 2015

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eatshitndie · Feb 6, 2015

just beware of the health supplement fraud that is prevalent in the u.s. federal and state attorneys have started to uncover the massive herbal supplement fraud. they will uncover more, especially with other supplements: vitamin, protein, etc.

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=0110008DVZ2E#

nirvarq · Feb 6, 2015

1. Research and know that our body structure is capable of living hundreds of years but our body cell purposely dies just to fulfill our "Wish" or Desire to be
old and dying. Your age only exists within your mind !

2. Rid yourselves of the toxic rats poison in your water and toothpaste. FYI your regular water filter system doesn't clean it. So whatever "Healthy" food you eat + rat poison is not gonna help.

dr.wailing · Feb 6, 2015

johnny333 said:
The collagen product I am taking has helped with my painful shoulder. So I would have to disagree that they are a waste of money. It is made up of various ingredient that is beneficial for joint pains : collagen, glucosamine, chondroitin, hyaluronic acid. Don't know if it is the collagen but the important thing for me is that it has relieved the pain.

Your above reply shows you're confused about what it is exactly that allegedly alleviates your painful shoulder.

In posts #1 and 10, you didn't mention that your collagen supplement contained other products such as glucosamine, chondroitin and hya. acid.

Before you attribute the efficacy of collagen in treating your painful shoulder and recommend it to us on this forum, you should eliminate the effects of glucosamine et. al.

What's the name of the product that you claimed worked wonders for you? (Web links to the product will do too.)

Who's the manufacturer? What's its website address?

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