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It’s okay for husbands to cane wives to train them, says Selangor Mufti

tonychat

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Can someone fucking explain to me how this bunch of Muslim fucks think????

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KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 28, 2015:
According to the Selangor mufti, Muslims husbands can cane their wives with the intention of “training” them.
In an Utusan Online report three days ago, Datuk Tamyes Abdul Wahid said this form of punishment was sanctioned by the religion as a form of “rehabilitation” to train wives and children, on their duties.
“Husbands are allowed to hit their wives for the purpose of teaching without the intention to hurt them or disgrace them.
“This method, however, should be the last resort after all other methods fail including reprimanding her and sleeping separately,” said the article.
This was picked up by Women’s Aid Organisation (WAO) whom in a stinging Facebook post yesterday, called on Tamyes “unfit to guide the Sultan”.

“No. A man can’t do that. It is a crime to beat your wife, just read the Domestic Violence Act.
“How can someone whose job is to advise and guide the Sultan, the state government and society condone domestic violence?
“We call on all Malaysians to stand up and reject the Selangor mufti’s extremist, misogynistic, and unlawful statement and to stand up against all forms of violence against women,” the post read.
This post was met with mixed response from netizens, both Muslims and non-Muslims.
Leena Varughese commented : “Seems like we are having more n more of this epidemic of utmost stupidity”.
S. Jamal Al-Idrus said: “Train them for what, the circus?”
Usha Nantini said: “Woman is not an animal for u to train!! Uneducated n uncivilised monkeys like you are the ones that needs to be caned n trained to show respect”.
There were also some who came to his defence.
Shilla Abu Bakar said: “I think he’s being misinterpreted”.
Zaizulkamar Jai said: “Non-Muslims are just meddlesome when it comes to our affairs.”
 

Najibee

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Mooselame banyak itu best. we cane them and after itu we can spank and whip them on bed. banyak shiok shiok.
 

tonychat

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is this muslim fuck a minister or what??? or some religious head or something..

ok he is someone who " advise and guide the Sultan, the state government and society "

is that how they choose someone to give advice????

When you have a dumbfuck to give advice, it says so much on the whole of the society..
 

BuiKia

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Didn't they also say wife must behave like prostitutes so that the husband will not stray?

So being their wife must be able to...

CatBath, CIM, CIP, COF, COB, Deepthroat, twisting BBBJ, Assrimming, Anal Job, etc?
 

parrardee

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Didn't they also say wife must behave like prostitutes so that the husband will not stray?

So being their wife must be able to...

CatBath, CIM, CIP, COF, COB, Deepthroat, twisting BBBJ, Assrimming, Anal Job, etc?

One of them or two of them or all four of them?
 

yellowarse

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And I wonder why the world have not realised what a sick religion Islam is.

The religion, or the people preaching and running it?

Just to refresh your memory: there was a time when the Christian Church burnt witches on stakes, crucified apostates, waged wars on non-believers and persecuted scientists who dare to insist that the Earth wasn't the centre of the universe. The Christian world then wasn't very much different from the Islamic World today, maybe even more cruel and superstitious. (Christians have killed more people in the past 2,000 years than the followers of any other religion.)

The Scientific Enlightenment and Industrial Revolution that underpinned the West's rise to world dominance came about in spite – not because – of Christianity. It was the separation of Church and State that led to the modern-day democracies we see in Europe.

And so the world awaits the Islamic enlightenment and emancipation.
 

Devil Within

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The religion, or the people preaching and running it?

Just to refresh your memory: there was a time when the Christian Church burnt witches on stakes, crucified apostates, waged wars on non-believers and persecuted scientists who dare to insist that the Earth wasn't the centre of the universe.

Yes, finding excuses for the sick religion.

As you have said, "there was a time...." Christians have evolved, but Islam has not. Barbaric behaviour can still be found at present age!!!!

Just look at Saudi Arabia, they just beheaded a woman in public under sharia law. No, it is not "there was a time..." they did it now and is still barbaric !

Islam is a sick religion!
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yellowarse

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Yes, finding excuses for the sick religion.

Not excuses. Just the truth. All religions are sick and worldview-limiting. It's the people who have outgrown conventional organized religion that have made the world a better place.

As you have said, "there was a time...." Christians have evolved, but Islam has not. Barbaric behaviour can still be found at present age!!!!

You're right – at present. Islam is just 300 years behind Christianity in its evolution. It is also a much younger religion, having been founded in the 7th century AD.

So looking at the evolutionary cycles of major religions including Christianity, I don't expect Islamic barbarism to be eradicated anytime soon.
 

Devil Within

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I don't expect Islamic barbarism to be eradicated anytime soon.

It never will. Christianity and Islam have different path of development even though they say they were somewhat from the same origin.

Founder of Christianity was Jesus and he did not wage war. It was the used later by Romans and the Westerners as an excuse to colonise territories.

Founder of Islam was Muhammad who wages violent and cruel wars against non-believers. One founder did not wage wars while the other did. Sick Islam will not change unless Islam change it's founder.
 

yellowarse

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It never will. Christianity and Islam have different path of development even though they say they were somewhat from the same origin.

Founder of Christianity was Jesus and he did not wage war. It was the used later by Romans and the Westerners as an excuse to colonise territories.

Founder of Islam was Muhammad who wages violent and cruel wars against non-believers. One founder did not wage wars while the other did. Sick Islam will not change unless Islam change it's founder.

The founder doesn't matter. Human beings have been waging war in the name of religion (and other ideologies) for thousands of years. Jesus' pacifism did not stop the Crusades and all manner of atrocities inflicted by the Church for close to 2,000 years. Spanish and Portuguese colonialists even waged conquests in the name of doing God's missionary work. (Just so, the Old Testament and the Talmud contain more barbaric and cruel passages than anything written in the Quran or Hadith.)

It's only when a people mature and outgrow organized religion that they transcend the stupidity and barbarism associated with religion. The West and the East Asian Confucian nations have learnt their lessons the hard way and made the necessary transformation. The Islamic world has not, generally.

If you're a 50-year-old ex-triad member who's now a respectable member of society, do you look at a 20-year-old young punk with a street gang and say: Hey, see, I've evolved. Why haven't you?

Give Islam another 100 years or two. Things will change.
 

Devil Within

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The founder doesn't matter.

It has everything to do with the founder. Especially in Islam when they want to emulate everything Muhammad did. Even the violence he did!

Muslims claim Koran is the perfect book without flaws and everything inside is golden rule. Well, Koran include every violence Muhammad did. So Muslims will see it as the correct way of life to become violence to non-believers just like the it's founder. It will never change so long as they view the sick Koran as the true teachings without flaw. This is the main reason Islam will never transform.
 

yellowarse

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Muslims claim Koran is the perfect book without flaws and everything inside is golden rule. Well, Koran include every violence Muhammad did. So Muslims will see it as the correct way of life to become violence to non-believers just like the it's founder. It will never change so long as they view the sick Koran as the true teachings without flaw. This is the main reason Islam will never transform.

You said it. When a group of people see their religious scriptures and holy book as infallible, you get the beginning of evil. Jesus may have preached peace, but Christians resorted to violent passages in the Old Testament and Paul's exhortation to evangelism as justification to wage wars of conquests on 'native' peoples and their lands, not to mention the Crusades. 400 years of terrorizing colonizing European wars on the New World and Asia and Africa is a testament to how human beings can just about twist any teaching to their own selfish ends.

The Christians evolved not because of Jesus' message. They evolved because they outgrew religion and embraced science and rational thinking. European nations are secular today, and most northern Europeans do not profess any religion. Ask them about the Bible, and they'd tell you it's just a story book.

The day the Muslims see the Quran as a story book is also the day they'll transform for the better.
 
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