Is forex trading more risky than index trading or stock trading? Why?

frenchbriefs said:

everyone knows that from watching shark tank and dragons den on tv,how much a business is worth from past revenues and profit margins growth.but they can only tell only when the business has grown after a certain number of years,when the business is actually showing results and making real money and growth.but before that its just a crapshoot and ur guess is as good as mine whether the business is going to be a success or a failure.so how can u gaurantee ur business and product will reach ur revenue and profitability targets?that is the hardest part,having shit that actually sells,a great product.the second hardest part is actually having the business skills and know how to set up a efficient and cost effective business.....thats why they say the skill of execution is more important than the idea.u can have a great idea but no brains and poor execution and ur business will still die,u can have a average idea and talent at executing the business,u will still make big bucks.

i should be a millionaire on shark tank.

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Nobody can guarantee success just as nobody can guarantee you'll be alive next year.

If you don't try you won't know.

frenchbriefs said:

everyone knows that from watching shark tank and dragons den on tv,how much a business is worth from past revenues and profit margins growth.but they can only tell only when the business has grown after a certain number of years,when the business is actually showing results and making real money and growth.but before that its just a crapshoot and ur guess is as good as mine whether the business is going to be a success or a failure.so how can u gaurantee ur business and product will reach ur revenue and profitability targets?that is the hardest part,having shit that actually sells,a great product.the second hardest part is actually having the business skills and know how to set up a efficient and cost effective business.....thats why they say the skill of execution is more important than the idea.u can have a great idea but no brains and poor execution and ur business will still die,u can have a average idea and talent at executing the business,u will still make big bucks.

i should be a millionaire on shark tank.

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Wah expert lai liao.

krafty said:

those times when gold was around 500 to 600 was rolling good times. currently, we have china slowing, japan and europe too. only america seems to be drawing money from everywhere. but this was the 2nd time fed cease bond buying, who knows if they may pull the plug again and start buying bonds all over.

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if they start buying and printing again,it will make gold go down wouldnt it?after all u see what happens to stocks when the fed is printing.....from 2012 to 2014 up 600 points.

gong simi...? if fed start printing again, gold price will rise...

frenchbriefs said:

if they start buying and printing again,it will make gold go down wouldnt it?after all u see what happens to stocks when the fed is printing.....from 2012 to 2014 up 600 points.

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krafty said:

gong simi...? if fed start printing again, gold price will rise...

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look when the fed is printing and q.eing,stock prices naturally go up,when people see that stock market is rising they will think it is healthy and in a bull market and naturally they will pull money out of gold and other commodities and put it into stocks.

u want to claim there is inflation when fed prints but where is the inflation?theres no inflation.the dollar has been steady the last 2 years,the stock market is rising,maybe the inflation is in stocks but who cares?we all make money....rising market and strong dollar=bad news for gold.

it dun work this way, when fed is printing, it means there is uncertainty, pple will buy gold as safe haven. stock prices DO NOT go up for sure. when there is inflation, usd will rise. so your theory is warped...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/01/Say-goodbye-to-quantitative-easing

frenchbriefs said:

look when the fed is printing and q.eing,stock prices naturally go up,when people see that stock market is rising they will think it is healthy and in a bull market and naturally they will pull money out of gold and other commodities and put it into stocks.

u want to claim there is inflation when fed prints but where is the inflation?theres no inflation.the dollar has been steady the last 2 years,the stock market is rising,maybe the inflation is in stocks but who cares?we all make money....rising market and strong dollar=bad news for gold.

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Google "Swiss Gold Referendum 2014" to find out more!

NEW YORK (Scrap Register): Despite the sharp recovery in the stock indices, strength in the US dollar and increase in bond yields, precious metals ended last week mostly flat in anticipation of the FOMC meeting this week.

While the Fed is expected to announce the end of its quantitative easing program, with potentially negative implications for gold, the latest polling results from Switzerland showed an increasing probability for passing the Swiss Gold referendum which would force the Swiss National Bank to purchase significant quantities of gold .

China’s gold imports from Hong Kong reached a six-month high, contributing t o a tighter physical market. Physical tightness is also manifesting in GOFO rates moving into negative territory for the first time since June.

In US dollar terms, gold ended the week with a year-to-date (YTD) gain of 2.4% compared to the 6.3 % YTD increase in the S&P 500 index and despite a 7.1 % increase in the US dollar index.

The chart below depicts the inverse relationship between gold and the S&P 500 since the beginning of 2013. Extending to new stock market highs would likely be a more immedia te risk factor for the price of gold.

With the precious metals trading at or below their costs of production and the potential for the new information (mentioned above) to raise the floor, ETF Securities believes they offer good value, with gold and silver well placed to benefit from further market volatility.

krafty said:

it dun work this way, when fed is printing, it means there is uncertainty, pple will buy gold as safe haven. stock prices DO NOT go up for sure. when there is inflation, usd will rise. so your theory is warped...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/01/Say-goodbye-to-quantitative-easing

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first of all the article is hilarious,let us all praise all the ceos and cfos and wall street for doing a good job,they are responsiblle for the stock market rising rapidly for the last 5 years.....i supposed when they nearly bankrupted the finance sector,crashed the economy,made tens of millions of americans lose job,thats just ceos and cfos and fed not doing such a good job huh?this is like one article out of hundreds iv read on seeking alpha and bloomberg and internet and its hilariously bad.

second of all if ceos and cfos are doing such a great job why does fed have to q.e three times then?u said fed q.e only if theres uncertainty,so they dont trust the ceos and cfos are doing a good job?

thirdly who ask for q.e?certainly not us,not the regular folks on the street....not the investors either,the regular joes....in fact most of us want q.e to end years ago so the stock market can go back to normal,what it should be.......so why the fuck who keeps asking fed to extend q.e?lemme guess corporate america?wall street?

good times bad times...

imho, it's about the strategy that is used to attract funds from overseas, qe is used to stimulate the economy which lower the dollar and attract investments. now, qe ended, and others like europe, japan and china is not doing well. all hot money will flow back to US. this effect will lessen the impact of their qe previously and better US economy.

frenchbriefs said:

first of all the article is hilarious,let us all praise all the ceos and cfos and wall street for doing a good job,they are responsiblle for the stock market rising rapidly for the last 5 years.....i supposed when they nearly bankrupted the finance sector,crashed the economy,made tens of millions of americans lose job,thats just ceos and cfos and fed not doing such a good job huh?this is like one article out of hundreds iv read on seeking alpha and bloomberg and internet and its hilariously bad.

second of all if ceos and cfos are doing such a great job why does fed have to q.e three times then?u said fed q.e only if theres uncertainty,so they dont trust the ceos and cfos are doing a good job?

thirdly who ask for q.e?certainly not us,not the regular folks on the street....not the investors either,the regular joes....in fact most of us want q.e to end years ago so the stock market can go back to normal,what it should be.......so why the fuck who keeps asking fed to extend q.e?lemme guess corporate america?wall street?

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i knew little option trading, if you want i can teach you. but i so far only do paper trading.
high risk high gain.

HSBC takes US$378m hit for forex scandal

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/hsbc-takes-us-378m-hit/1450718.html

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URL: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/hsbc-takes-us-378m-hit/1450718.html

HSBC bank on Monday (Nov 3) posted rising third-quarter net profits but took a US$378 million (€302 million) charge against probes into allegations of foreign exchange market rigging.
LONDON: HSBC bank on Monday (Nov 3) took a US$378 million (€302 million) charge linked to allegations of foreign exchange market rigging, and posted mixed earnings for the third quarter.

The Asia-focused lender added in a results statement that talks were ongoing with Britain's Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) regulator over the allegations and warned that a "significant" fine was likely.

The news comes after rivals Barclays and Royal Bank of Scotland last week made huge provisions for possible costs and penalties arising from several probes into suspected price-rigging in the foreign exchange market.

"Discussions are ongoing with the UK FCA regarding a proposed resolution of their foreign exchange investigation with respect to HSBC Bank plc's systems and controls relating to one part of its spot FX trading business in London," the bank said on Monday.

"Although there can be no certainty that a resolution will be agreed, if one is reached, the resolution is likely to involve the payment of a significant financial penalty. We continue to cooperate fully with regulatory and law enforcement authorities in the UK and other jurisdictions."

HSBC added on Monday that its earnings after taxation climbed seven per cent to US$3.431 billion in the three months to September 30 from a year earlier, boosted by falling impairments. However, adjusted pre-tax profits sank 12 per cent to US$4.4 billion in the third quarter, as it set aside around US$1.7 billion to cover a series of one-off charges.

HSBC also took a US$701 million provision to compensate customers for mis-sold products and US$550 million for a settlement with the Federal Housing Finance Authority. In addition, restructuring costs were US$68 million. Total revenues meanwhile were almost flat at US$15.575 billion in the period.

"The third quarter was a period of continued progress," said chief executive Stuart Gulliver, adding that the bank had maintained a strong balance sheet and robust capital position. "Revenue continued to grow in Commercial Banking, dominated by growth in our home markets of Hong Kong and the United Kingdom. Global Banking and Markets contributed a strong revenue performance."

He added: "Loan impairment charges are lower, reflecting the current economic environment and the beneficial changes to our portfolio since 2011."

- AFP/ec

frenchbriefs said:

whats the point so what if u can start playing with 500 dollars?u think u can turn that 500 dollars in 50k?thats 10,000% growth.

investing is about building ur portfolio and having a reasonable expectation on return(like 8 or 9%) a year.building ur portfolio means working and saving and injecting capital into it every month(be it $500 or $1000)........a reasonable expectation in investing is expecting $300k portfolio of stocks and bonds to give u 30k passive income a year......thinking u can grow $500 into $50,000 is just a pipe dream.u have better chance of doing that at the casino.

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OP is talking about gambling, not investing. FOREX, Option trading are essentially legalized gambling in the name of financial instruments.

JackyCheung said:

i knew little option trading, if you want i can teach you. but i so far only do paper trading.
high risk high gain.

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Can you stomach the loss?

frenchbriefs said:

if they start buying and printing again,it will make gold go down wouldnt it?after all u see what happens to stocks when the fed is printing.....from 2012 to 2014 up 600 points.

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My tip - buy GDXJ at current price with a price target of $40 in 12 months.

Caution - only invest with money you can afford to lose and never put more than 2 percent of your investment in one position.

Me still shorting the JPY with the majors especially cable.

winnipegjets said:

My tip - buy GDXJ at current price with a price target of $40 in 12 months.

Caution - only invest with money you can afford to lose and never put more than 2 percent of your investment in one position.

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2% of my investments.so if I have 20k to invest I only invest $400?smlj?and why gold miners when gold is falling?